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Discussing the things we liked about Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary series

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 14:22

There are so many threads on things posters hated about Harry and Meghan, the Netflix series, and fair play to those posters, so I thought I would have a go at stating a thread discussing some of the things that posters liked about the series.

I'll start.

I liked that this was supposed to be this bomb detonation, but has actually been a measured, warm, and loving look at H and M's relationship, and the pressures that the press put on them, and also on other royals. I genuinely did not notice anything incendiary. Maybe that is still to come.

I enjoyed the thoughtful insights shared on the invisible contract, especially, as Harry says, having to perform for a press that you know has said hurtful things about people you love.

I loved the warm memories of Sandringham, and meeting the Queen. And Meghan's memories of growing up. I think it was a wise, though sad, that they did not include Thomas. I really loved hearing Doria: my favourite bit is when a journalist offered her money, for an interview about Meghan and she said, "That's my child!"

I also learned for the first time about Meghan's relationship with her sister Samantha's daughter Ashleigh. I had no idea that she had been raised by her grandparents who adopted her, or that she had such a warm and caring relationship with Meghan. Along with Doria's, that was my favourite interview.

I enjoyed hearing from her childhood friends, as it is often said here that she had no friends who came to the wedding etc, just celebrities. They seem a tight nit grip who have been here fr years, and I am glad she has them.

I was gobsmacked that she needed security in Toronto after the relationship was announced.

I also thought the discussion on racism, in its wider context of colonialism and imperialism, was very well done, but then again it was led by David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch, who are always great, and I love their writing.

Most of all I love that Harry confronted head on the Nazi uniform debacle, and what he learned from it. And I loved, loved, loved, the segment on his life in Lesotho where they gave him the Sesotho name, "Mahale". A wonderful name.

“It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life,” Harry said. “I felt so ashamed afterwards. All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, which had a profound effect on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and made the same mistakes over again in my life. But I learned from that.”

I predicted on another thread that Harry would address this and other episodes head on in his book. I was scoffed roundly for this. I expect him to say more in is book, and I am happy to be proved right.

If only for this, I am very glad they did this.

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ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:10

The interesting thing is that Harry wore the Nazi uniform to a party with the theme " Colonial ".

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:10

@ILoveMyBedTooMuch WTAF??? You think that because didn't instantly show the entire world their newborn baby that justifies the hatred towards them??? The hatred that started long before their child was born! From the moment it was announced they were dating in fact!!!

No the hatred stems from bigoted individuals who can't get past their own racism!

ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:14

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 16:08

Not going to reel it all off but eg hiding the baby's birth, not doing an official photo etc just for a few.

Their child is never, and was never, going to be King. Why do you feel entitled to know about his birth? Is it not enough for you know know that he was born, and born healthy.? Why do you feel entitled to know more? Did you have the same expectation about Eugenie, Zara, and Beatrice's children? They too are in the line of succession but are never going to be King or Queen?

Possibly because they were receiving funding from the Sovereign Grant at this point in time?

ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:15

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:10

@ILoveMyBedTooMuch WTAF??? You think that because didn't instantly show the entire world their newborn baby that justifies the hatred towards them??? The hatred that started long before their child was born! From the moment it was announced they were dating in fact!!!

No the hatred stems from bigoted individuals who can't get past their own racism!

No, no read what I said - I said it was only a couple of examples.

BedTaker · 08/12/2022 16:16

Saying it's ok because that's how they earn their living is like saying your employer has the right to demand to know everything and anything about you and have unlimited rights to your time. That's not how it works. Or at least not how it should work.

It's not really like that.

Spilling the tea on their lives is how they are now earning their money. Oprah interview, Netflix series, Harry's book - these are huge deals, they will make a lot of money from this.

If the public are not interested in the ins and outs of their lives, then that is a major source of income cut off. And they are both accustomed to a certain level of wealth let's face it.

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:19

I think things like the baby announcement may be part of why the media turned on them - but I don't think Harry was ever going to play their game and I don't blame him one bit. Not just because of the way his mother was treated, but his past girlfriends and he himself have all been on the receiving end of their unethical behaviour.

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:20

But that had nothing to do with the sovereign grant, in any case. They received funding as working Royals, not for a blow-by-blow account of Meghan in labour.

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:22

@ILoveMyBedTooMuch two no issue examples because you cannot come up with anything that they have done wrong!
Apart from being American and mixed race of course!

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:24

BedTaker · 08/12/2022 16:16

Saying it's ok because that's how they earn their living is like saying your employer has the right to demand to know everything and anything about you and have unlimited rights to your time. That's not how it works. Or at least not how it should work.

It's not really like that.

Spilling the tea on their lives is how they are now earning their money. Oprah interview, Netflix series, Harry's book - these are huge deals, they will make a lot of money from this.

If the public are not interested in the ins and outs of their lives, then that is a major source of income cut off. And they are both accustomed to a certain level of wealth let's face it.

The issue is consent! Harry and Meghan do not consent to the unlimited and uncontrolled media shitshow that is the UK press. The Documentary, the interview and the book are controlled. There is nothing wrong with that

ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:25

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:20

But that had nothing to do with the sovereign grant, in any case. They received funding as working Royals, not for a blow-by-blow account of Meghan in labour.

You get the party and you should pay the dues.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 16:25

Possibly because they were receiving funding from the Sovereign Grant at this point in time?

And so your 20p or whatever it is you contribute to the Sovereign Grant means that you demand that a woman who has just given birth to a child who will never be your King should immediately leave her hospital bed and show you her newborn baby, a woman who, for all you know, may have had a difficult birth, with episiotomies and stuff because .....

Do you not realise that this is not even "Royal tradition", the Queen never did it when Andrew and Edward were born, nor did Anne, and it really only came into being when William and Harry and then Beatrice and Eugenie were born? Kate chose to display her kids, but Meghan chose not to.

She has done future royal women a huge favour by showing they can opt not to do it.

Read all about it!

www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a27391489/meghan-markle-baby-picture-comparison-royal-mothers/

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ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:28

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:22

@ILoveMyBedTooMuch two no issue examples because you cannot come up with anything that they have done wrong!
Apart from being American and mixed race of course!

Oh for goodness sake you have NO IDEA of who I am, where I am from or what COLOUR I am but you come up with all this crap. Dare I say - you cannot come up with anything other than the tow things you allege.

ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:29

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 16:25

Possibly because they were receiving funding from the Sovereign Grant at this point in time?

And so your 20p or whatever it is you contribute to the Sovereign Grant means that you demand that a woman who has just given birth to a child who will never be your King should immediately leave her hospital bed and show you her newborn baby, a woman who, for all you know, may have had a difficult birth, with episiotomies and stuff because .....

Do you not realise that this is not even "Royal tradition", the Queen never did it when Andrew and Edward were born, nor did Anne, and it really only came into being when William and Harry and then Beatrice and Eugenie were born? Kate chose to display her kids, but Meghan chose not to.

She has done future royal women a huge favour by showing they can opt not to do it.

Read all about it!

www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a27391489/meghan-markle-baby-picture-comparison-royal-mothers/

You forgot to elaborate further on the birth 😂😂😂

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:30

ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:25

You get the party and you should pay the dues.

LOL. How very ghoulish of you.

LadyHarmby · 08/12/2022 16:31

I mean, the press paid her neighbour to put a livestream camera pointing over the fence. Offered £70K to some dude to say he slept with her. Doorstepped her friend’s parents. Broke into the set of Suits. I could go on.

There is nothing, no public role, no taxpayer funding, no wealth or privilege, NOTHING that justifies having to put up with that.

And they’re still doing it, because they’re painting Harry & Meghan as the villains and pitting them against the Royal Family, when the actual bad guys are them. And people fall for it.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 16:31

ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:29

You forgot to elaborate further on the birth 😂😂😂

😁😁

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rumship · 08/12/2022 16:33

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justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:36

@ILoveMyBedTooMuch maybe I don't know you but I can tell enough from your oats exactly what type of person you are!

BedTaker · 08/12/2022 16:39

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:24

The issue is consent! Harry and Meghan do not consent to the unlimited and uncontrolled media shitshow that is the UK press. The Documentary, the interview and the book are controlled. There is nothing wrong with that

If you are being paid fuckloads of money to be in the public eye and air your dirty laundry (which I think is what's coming with Harry's book in particular) I don't really see why you should get to control the narrative and agenda at every turn.

Bar the pretty much unavoidable mention of the Nazi dress up, the rest of the vibe in the first 3 episodes was very much an air of smug superiority.

'I'm a hugger, I've always been a hugger, I'm so caring, I'm such a humanitarian, I'm so intelligent, I'm carefree, I'm wiiiiiiild, no one can contain my spirit, I did charity work before I met Harry you know', very much juxtaposed with the footage of 'that uptight cow' Kate at a formal engagement.

I'm not denying that things have been shit for them, but the only reflection in there seems very tokenistic. I wonder if they ever feel like they could have handled things differently at any point?

As an aside, I'm surprised they kept in the bit with Meghan talking about meeting the queen and doing the exagerrated curtsey because Harry doesn't look impressed at all - very off brand!

Madamecastafiore · 08/12/2022 16:40

Things I like = absolutely nothing but especially Harry & Meghan.

Ineedtocleanmywoodenblinds · 08/12/2022 16:42

I watched it all, quite liked it. Think they're obviously very in love and thought they were quite funny. I do think they can't win either way though as people go go out of their way to be offended by incredibly small things especially by MM.

I think the media, well the usual suspects within the media, will be a bit pissed off that there was nothing more controversial in there. Just a puff piece on them and really of note.

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:42

Well, I thought they were very likeable and natural. There weren't any potshots that I picked up on, just a discussion of different cultures.

Madamecastafiore · 08/12/2022 16:42

I didn't like that they didn't ask Katie Price be part of the documentary too.

LadyMary50 · 08/12/2022 16:42

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Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:47

Thanks for the dodgy screenshot.

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