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Discussing the things we liked about Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary series

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 14:22

There are so many threads on things posters hated about Harry and Meghan, the Netflix series, and fair play to those posters, so I thought I would have a go at stating a thread discussing some of the things that posters liked about the series.

I'll start.

I liked that this was supposed to be this bomb detonation, but has actually been a measured, warm, and loving look at H and M's relationship, and the pressures that the press put on them, and also on other royals. I genuinely did not notice anything incendiary. Maybe that is still to come.

I enjoyed the thoughtful insights shared on the invisible contract, especially, as Harry says, having to perform for a press that you know has said hurtful things about people you love.

I loved the warm memories of Sandringham, and meeting the Queen. And Meghan's memories of growing up. I think it was a wise, though sad, that they did not include Thomas. I really loved hearing Doria: my favourite bit is when a journalist offered her money, for an interview about Meghan and she said, "That's my child!"

I also learned for the first time about Meghan's relationship with her sister Samantha's daughter Ashleigh. I had no idea that she had been raised by her grandparents who adopted her, or that she had such a warm and caring relationship with Meghan. Along with Doria's, that was my favourite interview.

I enjoyed hearing from her childhood friends, as it is often said here that she had no friends who came to the wedding etc, just celebrities. They seem a tight nit grip who have been here fr years, and I am glad she has them.

I was gobsmacked that she needed security in Toronto after the relationship was announced.

I also thought the discussion on racism, in its wider context of colonialism and imperialism, was very well done, but then again it was led by David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch, who are always great, and I love their writing.

Most of all I love that Harry confronted head on the Nazi uniform debacle, and what he learned from it. And I loved, loved, loved, the segment on his life in Lesotho where they gave him the Sesotho name, "Mahale". A wonderful name.

“It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life,” Harry said. “I felt so ashamed afterwards. All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, which had a profound effect on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and made the same mistakes over again in my life. But I learned from that.”

I predicted on another thread that Harry would address this and other episodes head on in his book. I was scoffed roundly for this. I expect him to say more in is book, and I am happy to be proved right.

If only for this, I am very glad they did this.

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KillingLoneliness · 08/12/2022 15:42

I think it’s lovely, they haven’t been negative or hateful, they’ve been honest and explained the difficulties they’ve had to face, especially all of the fake rumours and news stories about them.
I’ve never understood the hatred they’ve received, people just seem to believe everything they read in the newspapers

Georgeskitchen · 08/12/2022 15:42

Why did her closee friends not attend her wedding?

Onedayatatime22 · 08/12/2022 15:43

@WidowTwanki Read on

Discussing the things we liked about Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary series
MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 15:44

Yes @peaceandove

He flew to Berlin.

Just as he flew with other soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq. You know, to serve in his country's army. Flying Apaches and all.

Towering bastion of environmentalism that he is.

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peaceandove · 08/12/2022 15:44

Georgeskitchen · 08/12/2022 15:42

Why did her closee friends not attend her wedding?

Well, quite.

And, why did so many guests who she had only met once or twice get invited to the wedding? Couldn't be anything to do with them all being genuine Hollywood A-Listers would it Hmm

Onedayatatime22 · 08/12/2022 15:45

peaceandove · 08/12/2022 15:41

“It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life,” Harry said. “I felt so ashamed afterwards. All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, which had a profound effect on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and made the same mistakes over again in my life. But I learned from that.”

Hilarious. Of course, Harry couldn't just have a private chat with a local Rabbi. It had to be the Chief Rabbi, of course. And, yet Harry's supposedly really uncomfortable with hierarchy and privilege Hmm

And, I take it there were no Holocaust survivors to be found anywhere in the UK? Nope, not one? So, he had to fly to Berlin to find one. Yes, fly. Towering bastion of environmentalism that he is.

Have you hammered W&K for flying across the planet to an environmental awards ceremony? Or David Beckham? The award winners had to zoom on but celebs could fly 🤦🏼‍♀️.

LadyHarmby · 08/12/2022 15:46

Georgeskitchen · 08/12/2022 15:42

Why did her closee friends not attend her wedding?

What friends? Who are her close friends? How could you possibly know who her close friends are and whether they attended or not?

Exactly. You just read it said somewhere and decided it’s true without thinking about who wrote it and why and how they might be qualified to know.

peaceandove · 08/12/2022 15:47

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 15:44

Yes @peaceandove

He flew to Berlin.

Just as he flew with other soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq. You know, to serve in his country's army. Flying Apaches and all.

Towering bastion of environmentalism that he is.

Was he serving in the army when he flew to Berlin to find a Holocaust survivor?

And, Harry merrily playing Cowboys & Indians in the army with his constant bodyguard squad of special forces soldiers didn't serve anyone. It was incredibly selfish and self indulgent of him.

Blip · 08/12/2022 15:51

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Furries · 08/12/2022 15:51

I think it’s incredibly brave of Harry to wait for a large pay check before directly apologising re the nazi uniform incident. I may have fallen asleep and missed it - did he not mention the racist slurs he used?

Backstreetsbackalrightdadada · 08/12/2022 15:54

Onedayatatime22 · 08/12/2022 15:43

@WidowTwanki Read on

We’ve already mentioned that - no, Harry has never apologised publicly when he used those slurs… in fact only the front bench and Cameron said he had. And why not mention it in this series which mentions the very real racism faced in this country? His supposed change in morals would be a good example. But seems he hasn’t really learned.

Novella4 · 08/12/2022 15:55

Sorry that should be
' the palace looks jumpy as all hell '

What was all that 'William will refute it all' about ?? Guilty conscience if you ask me

I also had to laugh at ' royal sources say there are no royal sources '
😂

Backstreetsbackalrightdadada · 08/12/2022 15:57

Novella4 · 08/12/2022 15:55

Sorry that should be
' the palace looks jumpy as all hell '

What was all that 'William will refute it all' about ?? Guilty conscience if you ask me

I also had to laugh at ' royal sources say there are no royal sources '
😂

But people would refute things if they were untrue? I’m not a monarchist but wouldn’t someone do that? Isn’t that what H&M think they’re doing now, setting the record straight?

Onedayatatime22 · 08/12/2022 15:59

Pointless engaging with people about a programme that they haven't actually watched 🤦🏼‍♀️

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 15:59

And yet again the racist bigots of Mumsnet are out in force!

LadyHarmby · 08/12/2022 15:59

But people would refute things if they were untrue?

If you refute one thing, you have to refute them all otherwise the things you don’t refute people will think are definitely true. So the theory goes.

GreenLunchBox · 08/12/2022 16:01

I think Meghan comes across as so lovely: beautiful, intelligent, articulate..even her voice is nice!
The hatred is obviously jealousy. Sad.

Onedayatatime22 · 08/12/2022 16:02

I think there's a distinction to be made here between using offensive and racist language and being a racist. Whilst it is quite clear that Harry has used revoltingly offensive racist language in the past, his relationship with Meghan, their mixed race children and the firm friendships he has established in Lesotho would suggest that his not a racist.

Onedayatatime22 · 08/12/2022 16:02

*he's

ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 16:03

Onedayatatime22 · 08/12/2022 14:41

I think it's tragic that there is so much hatred of H&M based on what? The tabloid press and their malicious reports... people would rather believe the media crap than dare to believe that actually H&M may be telling their truths. Why?

Based on their actions? Not going to reel it all off but eg hiding the baby's birth, not doing an official photo etc just for a few. They think they are bigger than the institution and they are not, the same as Diana thought.

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/12/2022 16:04

GreenLunchBox · 08/12/2022 16:01

I think Meghan comes across as so lovely: beautiful, intelligent, articulate..even her voice is nice!
The hatred is obviously jealousy. Sad.

Her voice is gorgeous! I really want her to do some audiobooks next. 😊

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 16:04

Georgeskitchen · 08/12/2022 15:42

Why did her closee friends not attend her wedding?

The friends featured in this series, Abigail, Daniel, Jill, Serena and the others, as well as Jessica Mulroney, Benita Litt etc all attended her wedding. Some of them were even seated in the front pews. Look for the Daily Mail seating plan if you don't believe me.

Just because you don't know who her friends are, does not mean they were not there.

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saffronrabbit · 08/12/2022 16:05

I like that they finally seem to be running out of things to say, have finally started to exhaust the narrative.

I'm hoping the next few episodes are about their time in USA, and they begin to draw a firm line under their very brief time as royals together.

I don't think they're that exciting or warrant and endless headlines or threads etc. I'd love to see them find some peace, finally feel heard and then stop talking about themselves.

We seem flooded with content from them and about them, it's time to take a breather guys.

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:06

I think they came across very well in the series. They haven't at bay point directed criticism at the royal family. Quite the reverse I felt.
It's clear their issue is and has always been the press. And the constant intrusion. I don't see how anyone on here can criticise them for that unless they have lived under that level of scrutiny.
Harry makes a clear point about consent. He didn't consent to the media intrusion, he was born into it. He has grown up dealing with an unprecedented level of media attention whilst dealing the death of his mother - which probably would not have happened had it not been for the actions of the press on that night. He as an adult isn't consenting to unlimited, uncontrolled press exposure for himself, his wife or his children. What is wrong with that?

Saying it's ok because that's how they earn their living is like saying your employer has the right to demand to know everything and anything about you and have unlimited rights to your time. That's not how it works. Or at least not how it should work.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 16:08

Not going to reel it all off but eg hiding the baby's birth, not doing an official photo etc just for a few.

Their child is never, and was never, going to be King. Why do you feel entitled to know about his birth? Is it not enough for you know know that he was born, and born healthy.? Why do you feel entitled to know more? Did you have the same expectation about Eugenie, Zara, and Beatrice's children? They too are in the line of succession but are never going to be King or Queen?

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