The family blame Meghan for it all, really. They absolutely f–king hate her, basically

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Let's discuss.

A friend of Kate and William’s said: “It’s hard to imagine how devastating the last three years have been for William. The brothers were so close, they had such an incredible bond. It’s impossible really to express what a massive, terrible, ongoing headache this has been for William in the past few years. The family blame Meghan for it all, really. They absolutely f–king hate her, basically. It’s a huge disaster. Growing up the brothers were so close. Harry would do anything to be with William. They lost their mum, and their dad was really disengaged so they had this incredible, incredible bond. Everyone knew it.

“And then Meghan came along. Everyone warned him off her but he wouldn’t listen, and she just ripped him away. The bond is gone, completely gone and this film is just the latest betrayal. William really, really, really hates both of them now. It’s really toxic and destructive for all of them. At the end of the day, they are a family, and their whole family life has been ruined by Meghan. You can’t imagine how bad it really is.”

Whereas no one will ever admit to being racist. Whereas: Blackamoor brooch worn in front of the first biracial member of that family (read Othello if you don't think this is a problem), Nazi uniforms, 'gaffes' informing Aboriginals they still throw spears and making snide references to Asian 'slitty' eyes, Nazi-sympathiser uncle, Nazi salutes, N- and P-word pejoratives, ladies-in-waiting racially profiling a black UK citizen, you could dredge out the archives ad infinitum, and that's without the colonial aspects of the very institution from which the Windsors take their immense privilege.

But noooooo, they're not at all a racist family ..... [crickets]

I absolutely think the RF is racist- institutions like that tend to be. But Harry has also done some pretty insensitive, offensive things too. We got no apology for those though did we?- where is the accountability from him?

Whereas no one will ever admit to being racist

Not even Harry, apparently - unless we count wheeling out some lackey to "explain", and personally I don't

Who's letting Harry off the hook? He's a Windsor too isn't he, and he's guilty of no small number of the instances I've mentioned. It's very well being self-righteous now he's married a biracial woman (cf. 'my best friend is black as a protestation against being racist), but some of his past conduct is deplorable.

Not difficult to tell who his grandfather is; nor to see how any child can learn better, coming from a family like that.

I can't stand the RF and also hate Megan for what she is

What is she?

The point is- I bet that wont be mentioned in the Netflix series. If you are going to point the finger at your family for being racist (which is totally legit/right) then you also have to admit your own racism. Lets see if he explains those incidents but I suspect that wont be mentioned.

The press. First and foremost the press. This country DOES still have a huge amount of racism. It’s way more visible since fucking Brexit. Anyone who suggests otherwise is deluding themselves

Nothing to do with the fact she's a controlling narcissist then ?

Let's talk about ME ME ME MEGAN

A controlling narcissist ?

As long as everything is about her getting attention it's all good as far as she's concerned

I remember the apologies. He had some high level atonement at the time.

I also remember the treatment of Diana at the time, she WAS hung out to dry by the RF, and the palace reaction after her death was very telling.

I wouldnt call it an apology- some bloke explained it away on his behalf. Its never been mentioned so far in any of the interviews theyve done since, which in the context of making accusations of others, is odd.

I'm loving a lot of the faux 'we think Harry and Meghan are great, such caring people' blah blah blah when what they are actually thinking is we don't really give a shiny shit about you (and I expect the feeling goes both ways) because you are actually part of the very institution we despise. Its all about bringing down the monarchy so it's 'hoorah we love you H&M you are so brave, you go girl, way to go PH the racist.

Harry is now coming across like those people who stop smoking/drinking or become vegan, and are then so smug and self righteous about it, and think they have the right to preach about it.

What Harry did and said (and just the stuff in the public domain) is such horrible outright racism, I have never met anyone in my life who would ever even consider wearing a Nazi uniform to a party. Ever.

Yes, I get that people can change, but it felt a little bit 'yeah I was an idiot, but look I've married a mixed race woman now innit, so I'm now completely absolved and everyone else is still awful'. I don't know, I guess all he can do is apologise, he can't turn back the clock, it just feels off.

It's a bit like with the trans issue - then ones who shout the loudest about transphobia and are the most abusive towards women about it are always the ones who have tweets from 10 years ago full of really horrible transphobic stuff.

yes, this is so sad, she's his second chance to try and protect somebody and save them. Except, unless meghan ''does the work'' the demon is always going to be The Public's Perception Of Her and nobody but herself can protect her from that.

Don't believe a word of that from an unarmed source.

However harry himself says the men of the RF are pushed to marry a certain type of women who fit the mould. This is a dig at his dad and William. Harry and Meghan are trying to peddle a narrative that Catherine is nothing more than a stepford royal wife rather than the warm wife and mother she is. She does have to conform to a royal image and I hope this is relaxed more in the coming years. Meghan is trying to say she is a free spirit in ripped jeans and Catherine a stuffy boring clothes horse. All this from their own mouths in the documentary not an unnamed source

so boring that anytime the racism Meghan has faced people bring up what Harry did many years ago. weird that he isn't allowed to grow up. quick google and it happened when he was about 21. seeing as on mn people are still considered to be kids until 25, something to do with their brains developing! yet Harry can't grow up and its used as a shut down.

They don’t hate her but you can’t tell me Harry wasn’t warned that an American with zero experience of British life (save a holiday) wasn’t going to fit with being a working Royal. Di and Fergie were both aristos, found it a challenge.

After seeing the press go after his mother he should have given up his royal role and then got married. No idea why he didn’t.

I don't follow the situation that closely, or watch the endless soaps about them (they're enough of a soap opera on their own). This was coming up on 'Trending' threads.

As to the OP, judging by the language this 'report' is obviously BS; their 'sources' simply don't converse using that kind of grammatical expression (which is unsurprising, considering the 'sources' are obviously themselves). But would it be altogether surprising if the family blamed Meghan Markle? Check out so many of the threads on this site: any discord in a relationship between a family of origin and their son, the DiL always gets the blame. It conveniently removes any accountability or obligation for self-reflection from them. There must be a score of Christmas threads with variations on exactly the same theme.

Always the women's fault.

Totally agree with you there

Yes, when Harry was talking about that wasn't it overlaid with footage of Kate, Sarah Ferguson and Diana (or was that another bit?).

Anyway, its clear that its meant as a dig towards Charles and William. And given that William and Kate seem a very happy family and Kate is happy to do the job she has been given, it's a bit of a shitty thing to say.

It almost seems like they are pissed off that Kate and William are happy 'doing their duty' when thats not what they want for themselves? But people are different aren't they? The RF has always has different characters, look at Elizabeth and Margaret!

He couldn't give up the Royal role because he really has no other talent. He seems to not be very academic, he doesn't appear able to have the ability to start a business, or become qualified in a profession, so realistically what can he do? Perhaps he could have stayed in the army? I don't know how that would work, or he might have gone to Africa and started some charity, as he apparently loves the continent. But I don't believe that he thought anything through precisely because he is a bit dim.

“raaahhhly, raahhhhly, raaahhhhly” - yep, doesn’t work!

Um, Harry was the one wearing a Nazi uniform and Harry was the one who, on camera, called a fellow soldier the P-word. So he can spout all the anti-racist nonsense he likes, but he's as guilty as anyone else in the RF for racism. He's thick and totally lacking in self-awareness and I'm tired of being told how the whole of Britain is racist by someone who has clearly demonstrated his own racism over the years.

@samcro but the Royal family is institutionally racist ( although if any institution understood the differing politics of colour worldwide it must surely be them) and Harry is part of the institution.
How is he allowed to not be racist and everyone else is?