Page 3 | The family blame Meghan for it all, really. They absolutely f–king hate her, basically

tatala · 2022-12-08T13:37:31+00:00

Let's discuss. ^A friend of Kate and William’s said: “It’s hard to imagine how devastating the last three years have been for William. The brothers were so close, they had such an incredible bond. It’s impossible really to express what a massive, terrible, ongoing headache this has been for William in the past few years. The family blame Meghan for it all, really. They absolutely f–king hate her, basically. It’s a huge disaster. Growing up the brothers were so close. Harry would do anything to be with William. They lost their mum, and their dad was really disengaged so they had this incredible, incredible bond. Everyone knew it.^ ^“And then Meghan came along. Everyone warned him off her but he wouldn’t listen, and she just ripped him away. The bond is gone, completely gone and this film is just the latest betrayal. William really, really, really hates both of them now. It’s really toxic and destructive for all of them. At the end of the day, they are a family, and their whole family life has been ruined by Meghan. You can’t imagine how bad it really is.”^

Cherryana · 09/12/2022 01:50

I don’t think we can guess what either Harry or William think about anything really. They have a unique perspective based on so many factors, most of which, are unknown to us because we are not them.

What I see is its really not one set is the bad guys and one set is the good guys - it’s a messy, sad situation filled with ego, misunderstandings, meddling, tit for tat, and pride - toxicity (like this article) being played out in public unfortunately.

SirVixofVixHall · 09/12/2022 01:52

Ozgirl75 · 09/12/2022 00:01

I do have sympathy for Harry. He had his early childhood marred by a massively acrimonious divorce that was constantly in the papers, a mother with serious mental health issues, a relatively distant father who was having a well documented affair. This all before he was 12. Then his mother dying when he was 12.
He clearly blamed the family for her death, and then he’s expected to go to work for the “company” that he blames for the loss of his mother.
Any of those significant traumas alone would create a very damaged young man, let alone one who had to deal with most of it in the public eye.
As a boy, he probably felt a sense of failing to “protect” his mother, and in Meghan, he feels like he’s been given a second chance to “protect” the person he loves from the big evil royal corporation.
When she came along and offered him a way out, he was quite sensible to take it. However, he probably feels conflicted over taking money from the royals, and yet he’s used to an incredibly privileged life that costs a bomb. And neither he nor Meghan have skills that make that kind of money apart from their royal connections.
Honestly I feel like he would have done a lot better had he had serious therapy for all his issues, and then calmly resigned from the royal family and moved overseas to live a quiet life.

I totally agree .

Dotcomma · 09/12/2022 02:01

At the end of the day they're all responsible for themselves and their own un/happiness. So 'what if'....
Harry 'seems' happier in himself with his wife & family, they're really all that should matter to him first & foremost. Just my opinion.

Starrylight · 09/12/2022 02:10

SirVixofVixHall · 09/12/2022 01:52

I totally agree .

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Yet, he's always appeared to enjoy being involved in the army, the sporting area, getting 'stuck in' with the 'fun' public stuff? That seemed his personal arena to shine? And potentially he was putting on a public persona, but he did seem to thrive with those things. I suspect he never really had that much of an issue rocking up to the events that interested him as above? I mean in the nicest possible way he's not exactly winning awards in the scientific, nor academic community. But he seemed happy enough in his own niche. Meghan seems the brighter out of the pairing, and I think with the acting background she does seem to like the celeb environment?

It on face value appears like the 'born into wealth, vs the new money' conondrum? Harry might be happy with granny's hand me downs... But Meghan wants the sparkly new perhaps?

HamBone · 09/12/2022 02:27

It might be one person’s opinion on the situation, “their truth,” but it doesn’t mean it’s anyone else’s truth (for example, William’s).

FromEden · 09/12/2022 02:40

Then his mother dying when he was 12.

I mean, Diana had 2 sons. William also lost his mother. Seems to me that Harry is monopolizing this loss and using it as a weapon against the family at this point. I'm sure William must feel pretty shitty seeing his mother's memory and legacy twisted and used to further Harry and Meghans victim narrative.

Paslaptis · 09/12/2022 02:59

Cherchez la femme. Even if this is all true, Harry has agency. He might never have taken action without Meghan or someone like Meghan, but now he has.

Maybe William does think that Harry has changed drastically since meeting Meghan. But Harry has said (for example in the infamous Oprah interview) that he was unhappy for a long time and didn't know how to process or voice it. He feels that it's the others (William, Charles) who are trapped and can't admit it. What reconciliation (beyond the superficial) can there be if each "side" thinks the other is in need of rescue and in denial about that? It's also possible that Harry wasn't as happy with his pre-Meghan relationship with William as William was.

lifeinthehills · 09/12/2022 04:50

True or not, I just don't buy all the blaming that goes on towards the woman when a man makes choices his family doesn't like, or departs from them. Men are not spineless. They make their own choices. Even if that's following a woman's lead, still a choice they are making.

Alleycat1 · 09/12/2022 04:50

I don't think many people blame Harry for wanting to live a different life. However, making a living from very publicly and spitefully trashing his own family is despicable. Wanting to be free of all the dreary duties and responsibilities that comes with being royal is understandable but Harry still wants the trappings; the paid for security, the money etc. If he and Meghan had kept their own counsel and lived the publicity-free life they said they wanted people would have a lot more respect and sympathy for them.

lemmein · 09/12/2022 04:55

Georgeskitchen · 08/12/2022 14:02

We all know it was the beginning of the end when William urged caution and told Harry to take things slowly with Meghan. Harry took offence to this and that's when the animosity started to creep in. William didn't want him to repeat the mistakes of his parents, marrying too quickly without getting to know each other properly. That, in my book, is sensible advice.
I think Meghan was blindsided by the fact that being Royal Princess in the 21st century is nothing like in the fairy tales of Old
Yes there are privileges, you get live a palace with servants but in exchange you have to do all.the dreary jobs like meeting the general public on cold dismal days in cold dismal towns.
I think Meghan may also have believed that her status in the RF would be much higher than it actually is, and this is why she has the knives out for Catherine, who will one day be Queen.
A sad tale indeed and perhaps Williams words are now ringing loud and clear in Harry's ears!!

Imagine if you knew them so your assessment of the situation wasn't just fantasy created in your head?

I've read on tattle sites that H&W fell out after H found out about W's affair...the difference is, I take it with a pinch of salt because I don't know them, and more than likely those leaking these stories don't either!

lemmein · 09/12/2022 04:58

Bard6817 · 09/12/2022 01:12

The military people i know who used to be friends with Harry, including a couple who served with him, are no longer friends with Harry.

Their standard statement is something along the lines of ‘Used to be great guy, normal like, he changed….’.

🤣🤣🤣

Bugeyedowl · 09/12/2022 05:04

Oh jeez, who cares. Is Harry not supposed to have his own wife then? Any woman would take him away from William. William needs to realise Harry's life doesn't revolve around him.

pisspants · 09/12/2022 06:37

From watching the first episode I think Harry was so scared of Meghan leaving him, because of the media intrusion that his previous girlfriends had faced which lead to his previous relationships ending, that he kept them in a total bubble for too long so Meghan wasn't exposed to the reality of what life would be like. Especially not being from the UK she didnt fully know the reality of Royal life as maybe you dont see all that from.the USA. It's a very sad situation all around but I put the blame with Harry as I don't think he was transparent. The same when it came to Meghan accessing mental health care a bit later on. He was an advocate for mental health charities but couldn't help his partner seek help but she blames the palace for that?

Prescottdanni123 · 09/12/2022 06:45

Meghan is isolated from her whole family apart from her mother. And she has now isolated herself and Harry from his. That suggests to me that it is her that is the problem.

In Meghan's mind, everyone who doesn't give her what she wants her criticises her is a bully. If everyone in the world had a negative opinion of her, she would be on the news ranting about her everybody in the world is a vicious bully and she is completely innocent.

Prescottdanni123 · 09/12/2022 06:47

@pisspants

Yeah his response to her mental health issues battled me. She was pregnant with his child and told him that if he left her alone she might commit suicide. So he took her to a glitzy event? If it was a relative of mine, pregnant or not who was at such a risk of suicide, I'd be taking her to speak to a crisis team immediately, kicking and screaming if need be.

pilates · 09/12/2022 06:50

Daily Beast wtf is that? Sounds like a load of old bs but I’m sure it will cause a bun fight on here if that’s what you want.

loislovesstewie · 09/12/2022 06:52

Apparently he didn't know what to do when Meghan was unwell/contemplating self harm. Could he not pick up a phone? He comes across as a bit pathetic TBH.

FancyFanny · 09/12/2022 07:33

I find Harry's accusation that the Royal family have a huge amount of unconscious bias a bit pointless. Unconscious bias is not the same as racism- it's unconscious! Harry has been brought up in the same environment as the rest of the family- he is not exempt himself.

slowquickstep · 09/12/2022 07:34

GetThatHelmetOn · 08/12/2022 14:33

By the way… I am not a royal, I am a Republican but… I would fucking hate my SIL if she was behaving that awfully towards my family 😁

Now, as a mixed race person I would ask Harry if being proud of his family being mixed race is not as bad as being proud of his family being white. It is racism all the same.

This.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 09/12/2022 07:37

Prescottdanni123 · 09/12/2022 06:45

Meghan is isolated from her whole family apart from her mother. And she has now isolated herself and Harry from his. That suggests to me that it is her that is the problem.

In Meghan's mind, everyone who doesn't give her what she wants her criticises her is a bully. If everyone in the world had a negative opinion of her, she would be on the news ranting about her everybody in the world is a vicious bully and she is completely innocent.

Yep. The common theme in these events is her. Add in that 14 staff have left in a few years, I don't believe she's the nice person she tries to convey.

loislovesstewie · 09/12/2022 07:38

Bugeyedowl · 09/12/2022 05:04

Oh jeez, who cares. Is Harry not supposed to have his own wife then? Any woman would take him away from William. William needs to realise Harry's life doesn't revolve around him.

But they don't have to be at loggerheads, do they? They could still be friendly towards one another, see one another ,have a relationship? It's not either/or ,is it?

slowquickstep · 09/12/2022 07:43

Dotcomma · 09/12/2022 02:01

At the end of the day they're all responsible for themselves and their own un/happiness. So 'what if'....
Harry 'seems' happier in himself with his wife & family, they're really all that should matter to him first & foremost. Just my opinion.

I would say Harry is far from happy. What happy person would spout such vile and vicious tales about their family to the media and take money for doing just that ? He is coming across as a spiteful spoiled child with no direction of purpose in life. Meghan on the other hand is sly and manipulative, she is loving this.

Ostryga · 09/12/2022 07:50

slowquickstep · 09/12/2022 07:43

I would say Harry is far from happy. What happy person would spout such vile and vicious tales about their family to the media and take money for doing just that ? He is coming across as a spiteful spoiled child with no direction of purpose in life. Meghan on the other hand is sly and manipulative, she is loving this.

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I don’t think they come across that way at all.

I think it was a massive change for Meghan and even as someone born and bred middle class English, I would struggle just as much as she did entering a life like that. Americans aren’t raised with the same etiquette levels as us.

I think they’ve been subjected to vile abuse, and 100% support their decision to talk about it and put their side across. And if someone offered to pay me millions I’d take it as well.

People should always have an opportunity to talk, no one should experience something and then shut up forever about it.

I do question people who immediately say Meghan is manipulative and sly, when she’s being quite open about most things. Says more about them than her I feel.

Simplepink · 09/12/2022 07:56

It is a sad situation for all however I think Meghan has come across as a bright switched on woman raised by another bright switched on woman.
Her unwillingness to compromise things like her activism and political self make me really warm to her. She is like the women I know in real life who are interesting and have stuff to say. She was never going to fit the RF way.
also massive hats off to Harry who seems to have genuinely analysed the institution he was brought up in and seen its faults

loislovesstewie · 09/12/2022 07:56

Perhaps then the 'other side' should be able to put their thoughts forward and 'tell their truth' too. Because the whole point of this is that those people are really going to be unable to do so. It would become very nasty,much worse than it is now. It would be a huge public argument with no one winning.