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Am shocked Meghan said this…

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Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 09:58

She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was bare foot, like I was a hugger, I have always been a hugger I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.'

'I started to understand that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside, that there is a forward facing way of being and then you close the door and thing OK we can relax now, but that formality carries over on both sides and that was surprising to me.'

What an utterly horrible thing to say about your sister and brother-in-law. I am done with her now. People are DIFFERENT Meghan. We are not all like you you you you.

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AugustSchumann · 08/12/2022 11:00

I'm not sure that 'shocked' and 'what Meghan said' will ever go in a sentence together again for me. Maybe it is all true (doubt it) but she is over-sharing massively and being unkind with it - not great, especially for a middle-aged woman rather than a teenager. Oh well.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 08/12/2022 11:00

LostAtTheCrossRoad · 08/12/2022 10:58

Harry has been an absolute prize shit in all this - if this were an ordinary family we'd have said he was gas lighting Meghan. He's lived his whole life in the RF, yet supposedly he didn't tell her she had to curtsey to the Queen at all times? Didn't tell her to be a little more formal meeting people for the first time? In her own words she says she didn't know so clearly he didn't tell her in advance. He's a twat who's let her down very badly indeed. How much of her confusion and distress could he have avoided if he'd thought about it for even a moment?

Exactly.

A PP got it spot on - the informed exes (Chelsey and Cressida) knew the protocol and the expectations and they left him. Maybe he was fortunate enough to find a woman not raised in the UK who wouldn’t get the nightmare of being Royal and thought he’d marry her before she fully understood and it was too late to do one.

bakalava · 08/12/2022 11:00

The first few episodes have painted her as a sunny, friendly, barefooted hippie who was all hugs, love and light. The next few episodes will be about the cold, emotionless, nasty Brits pouncing on her and trapping her inside a golden cage. The last episode will be escape from exile and kids being raised all free-range and eco-aware in a rambling mansion away from the nasty captors. Do Americans really believe this stuff?

Wanttobefree2 · 08/12/2022 11:01

Cornettoninja · 08/12/2022 10:57

She should be bollocking her husband for not briefing her properly

yup.

And

she clearly has a problem with the Princess of Wales and at every opportunity tries to portray her as the wicked heartless sister in law she seems to manage to shoehorn oblique but negative references to her at every opportunity

yup.

both of these are issues that fall at Harry’s door imho.

I don’t really care about Meghan, although the publicity is clearly driven by her and not something Harry has been particularly driven to seek previously, but the actual issues always seem to come back to Harry’s lack of input in preparing MM or his family.

Yes I agree with this completely, all these things she said she didn’t know, he should have told her all about it.

I actually find this whole thing pretty stressful and don’t like this whole victim mentality from them!

Fragrantandfoolish · 08/12/2022 11:01

Robynxoxo · 08/12/2022 10:19

Jeez so even behind closed doors Kate is stuffy and straight laced. Does she ever loosen up. It's likes she's constantly worried William is going to dump her again.

Lol. Of the many things she’s likely worried about that will be the last.

Readinginthesun · 08/12/2022 11:02

TheFairyCaravan · 08/12/2022 10:51

I sort of understand why they curtsy to the Monarch but I don’t understand why they are so formal when they have dinner with their siblings fgs. I’d have thought they all would have wanted to be in jeans and be barefoot in that sort of company.

I’m with Harry and Meghan. No wonder they’ve moved away, I couldn’t stand to bring my kids up like that either. It’s ridiculous

How do we know they curtesy/ bow to siblings ? Unless I missed it , that wasn’t said .
And - again - they left because they couldn’t get their own way !

Fleurdaisy · 08/12/2022 11:02

Can’t see what is wrong with what she said.
Meghan was an actress in the US so put on the posh frock and the smile when required ( to promote programmes, films whatever) but could go without makeup, slob around in her pjs all day at home if she wanted. Eat pizza from the box etc. She obviously expected the RF to be similar, play a role in public but be yourselves at home and she was shocked to find they’re all just as stuffy and formal at home. Big culture shock I’d think.
RF are probably all highly dysfunctional, out of touch people— Meghan, Harry and their kids are well out of it.

Horsesandzebras · 08/12/2022 11:02

bakalava · 08/12/2022 11:00

The first few episodes have painted her as a sunny, friendly, barefooted hippie who was all hugs, love and light. The next few episodes will be about the cold, emotionless, nasty Brits pouncing on her and trapping her inside a golden cage. The last episode will be escape from exile and kids being raised all free-range and eco-aware in a rambling mansion away from the nasty captors. Do Americans really believe this stuff?

Oh my you have just wrote Cinderella Part Two. Excellent work.

ancientgran · 08/12/2022 11:04

I don't understand what being in ripped jeans with bare feet has to do with being a hugger.

BearWoman · 08/12/2022 11:06

Another one not understanding what is wrong with what she said.

Facecream · 08/12/2022 11:06

Any reason to dislike people goes sometimes… especially if it’s MM

LaMarschallin · 08/12/2022 11:06

Haven't RallTFT (but have read all the OP's comments), so sorry if this has been said before but I think (if it's exactly what Meghan said) that it's the first bit that's most telling:

She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time

Meeting "her" not "them".
I think - much as posters talk about people being obsessed with Meghan - Kate lives in Meghan's brain "rent free".

The rest of the ripped jeans/bare feet/huggies stuff is the usual thing to make her seem warm and relatable.
(Bet they weren't jeans worn through at the knees from overuse though - a denim-rending designer specialist would have been at those with a platinum scalpel Smile)

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 08/12/2022 11:07

ancientgran · 08/12/2022 11:04

I don't understand what being in ripped jeans with bare feet has to do with being a hugger.

Because she’s a down to earth fun loving warm hippie man having to meet these cols and stuff racists that’s why

TellMeWhere · 08/12/2022 11:07

antelopevalley · 08/12/2022 10:58

Until my house got cold I was barefoot in my house. Perfectly normal.

Honestly. This place is nuts. I take my shoes off, I hug, I don't plan outfits for the inlaws - they certainly don't for me.

MamaFirst · 08/12/2022 11:07

I'm definitely not always a Meghan fan, but I think you've majorly overreacted to that quote. There are a dozen quotes you could have chosen haha... But you're making a mountain out of a mole hill over that one imo!

Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 11:07

@bakalava she is indeed living in a movie set

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OzziePopPop · 08/12/2022 11:08

Guitarbar · 08/12/2022 10:11

They are pretty different actually, heck even the cultural norms and customs between states varies immensely. I think films and stuff make it seem we are the same especially as we share a language, but that's not the reality. I lived in America for a few years and was quite shocked. That said I don't agree people should Google stuff, but to be complaining about it years on seems weird and petty. The brits are pretty renowned for stiff upper lip and all of that anyway, plus why didn't Harry tell her what the deal was? It's his fault tbh.

I very much agree with this (having lived in both countries for many years). The Brits and American cultures are very different in many areas. Not ‘Google it’ kinda different but definitely noticeably different.

mam0918 · 08/12/2022 11:08

Ndd135632 · 08/12/2022 10:03

@browneyes35 do you? Every culture is different. British people are more reserved than American people. If you go into another culture and do this and then moan about it then you are utterly ignorant and stupid. I find this grossly insulting. Imagine someone doing this to another culture in asia for instance and then moaning about it. This is such an insult.

I'm 100% british born and bred but wear ripped jeans, walk barefoot and Im a hugger.

Thats nothing to do with 'culture' and we arent all uptight, example: up here where I live 'cunt' is a casual term of endearment just because a posh middle class Londoner might clasp their pearls at that doesnt make it 'unbritish' for the millions that do these things.

Needmoresleep · 08/12/2022 11:08

@Ndd135632

Yes versions of this story have surfaced since the news of Harry and Meghan first started dating. From what I understand, Piers Morgan was not the only one ditched overnight, and a few people, having thought that they were bff, were left rather sore.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/meghan-markle-could-become-england-28581958

I appears that the Suits role was coming to an end, and with her marriage to Trevor (a Hollywood producer who help land her that role) over she was looking to a future in the UK. Apparently she was even thinking about Made in Chelsea and had got close to one of the cast.

She then met Harry...either on a blind date in London or perhaps earlier in Toronto at Invictus/Soho House. (The timing of the latter is problematic as she was officially dating someone else.)

William and Kate are very guarded and tend only to let their hair down with their group of loyal and old friends. There will have been some feedback, even at early stages, from Royal Protection Officers. The Harry/Meghan romance moved very fast as he seems to have fallen deeply in love very quickly. I assume that Meghan saw dating the brother meant that she was on hugging terms, and that hugging was an important part of being welcomed into a family. I suspect that William and Kate don't hug many people, especially those that they have only just met. Though he famously hugged some members of the Women's team following their UEFA victory, including captain Leah Williamson. (I was at Wembley that night and everyone would have hugged her!)

Coxspurplepippin · 08/12/2022 11:08

The entire trope around Brits is that they are formal, stand offish, stiff upper lip. It's recognised the world over. To suggest you didn't know that - especially with members of the RF, is slightly strange. And tbh I doubt that members of the RF are bowing and curtseying to each other like weebles in private - a quick bow of the head or slight dip to the monarch and the rest of them just get on with it

JinglingXmasbells · 08/12/2022 11:09

You need to join the dots of that quote. It doesn't make sense as it is.

Ripped jeans
Bare feet
Hugger

Why do ripped jeans and bare feet equal being a 'hugger'?
One is a state of dress the other is a behaviour.

Is she saying the Wales' turned up in formal dress and weren't touchy feely?

It's all a load of nonsense.

Badger1970 · 08/12/2022 11:09

I think GMB hit it on the head this morning with the fact that this now has gone into "oversharing".

She doesn't care if her fame crosses into infamy; and I strongly suspect that she doesn't care either if H's MH goes down the toilet. I am however sad for 2 small kids being raised by these two, and never knowing their wider family/legacy.

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 08/12/2022 11:10

I really like Meghan and Harry. A bit mad, self involved and emotionally fucked up but there’s something about them I really warm to.

Kate and Will’s hugely controlled emotions? Yeah, they leave me cold too. Imagine not being able to just relax when meeting your brothers girlfriend for the first time. Bonkers.

ancientgran · 08/12/2022 11:11

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 08/12/2022 11:07

Because she’s a down to earth fun loving warm hippie man having to meet these cols and stuff racists that’s why

Well I'm often in jeans, usually barefoot and I like my personal space. If she met me and assumed I'd be a hugger because of what I was or wasn't wearing she'd get a surprise. I'm laid back and relaxed but don't touch.

DozyFox · 08/12/2022 11:11

Not read the thread Grin but my take on this is that of course you wouldn't wear no shoes and ripped jeans to meet them for the first time. I understand she wouldn't have known this. But obviously, Harry would have known what his family's culture and attitude to formality is like. Why didn't he give her a heads up?! Tell her she'd best put on a nice frock for god's sake!

Honestly I feel sorry for her - thrown in the deep end and Harry was too wet to actually prepare her! No wonder she felt like a fish out of water.

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