Am shocked Meghan said this…

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She said: 'Even when Will and Kate came over and I was meeting her for the first time I remember I was in ripped jeans, I was bare foot, like I was a hugger, I have always been a hugger I didn't realise that is really jarring for a lot of Brits.'

'I started to understand that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside, that there is a forward facing way of being and then you close the door and thing OK we can relax now, but that formality carries over on both sides and that was surprising to me.'

What an utterly horrible thing to say about your sister and brother-in-law. I am done with her now. People are DIFFERENT Meghan. We are not all like you you you you.

I wouldn't care that she was in ripped jeans or barefoot but I don't hug people I've never met. Even my future in-laws.

No, I meant so many comments on MN aimed at her are often thinly veiled (and not so) racist attacks. Yet if you call anyone out on it, the response is usually 'oh but I just don't like her'. Yeah right.

It is HER truth remember. They probably could not care less what she was wearing or how she was behaving. They meet all kinds of people during their national duties. Her opinion is probably nothing to do with what actually happened or how anybody felt. It is just her opinion.

@WookieWoo
”I think the point Meghan is making is very interesting - they are as formal and 'stuffy' behind closed doors.”

Maybe they’re not. Maybe only when they first meet people. They could be the opposite with people they know and are comfortable with.

Do you think we're all stupid???

Of course we choose our friends wisely with a few hiccups along the way as we grow up. People are very different and as long as a person can handle and cope with the personality traits, all is fine. I have friends who might well be like Meghan, I have friends who are awkward giving a hug but try, I have friends who are real huggers, I have a friend who might well take offence at certain things. We all behave differently with different friends.

Who cares about wearing jeans…

but I don’t like being hugged at a first meeting… have bad experiences with “charismatic” people who dive in like that, it’s not respectful of personal space. Hugs once you know each other, fine!

When you marry into another nationality you LEARN about that nationality

I'm British. If I went to my BILS house to meet his new partner I'd take them I found them, I wouldn't expect her to dress up. Lots of people go barefoot at home. And yes, I'd hug her too. But I'm not a Royal.

There's nothing wrong with what she said. Americans are more informal but so many Brits these days. They're barely 40, not 70!

This isn’t a nationality thing though is it? Did you curtsy the first time you met your sister in law? I’m British born and bred, and I just said “hello, nice to meet you” and did an air kiss.

If a curtsy was required, Harry should have prepped her. I’m not surprised she was surprised, it is very weird by British standards as well.

I am done with her now..

Were you a fan prior to this or something?😂

Some of us aren't huggers Meghan, and that's ok. Could you find it within your self centred self to acknowledge we're not all like you, and find something a bit more interesting to talk about.

Such bilge

I mean I’m not outraged at what she said but I do have some sympathy towards Kate who Meghan is insinuating is stuffy and formal even behind closed doors when I think I’m reality it’s more likely that Kate and William are quite reserved with people they don’t know. Really though, this is on Harry. He knows his family and should have warned her they may be a little on their guard until they got to know her better.

@Doubtmyself

There is also a cultural difference with regard to race. In America, a race based society, race is front and centre of everything, in the U.K. it barely registers, hence her having to “teach” Harry about racism.

Rishi Sunak the first British Asian PM...no-one in the U.K. batted an eyelid, an equivalent of this in race based America it would be headline news.

America invented no race mixing (anti-miscengation). H&M are in the belly of the beast as it was illegal to marry outside your race in California until Post WWII (even then only 3% approved, with Sammy Davis Jr forced to give up a relationship with a white woman after being told he would be killed). This is Abraham Lincoln from 1858:

“There is a physical difference between the white and the black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together... while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any man am in favor having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-quotes-statesmen-race-idUSKBN2471YA

And Lincoln (although racist) is one of the more tolerant US presidents in regard to other races. Two of the twelve slave owning presidents, Washington and Jefferson, for example, were both monsters. Jefferson (in the source above) wrote “blacks are inferior to the whites in the endowments of body and mind”.

When you come from this race based environment (even the US anthem (written by slave owning Francis Scott Key) is racist with a verse excoriating the blacks removed) you see EVERYTHING through the lens of race.

Who on Earth wants to hug people they don’t knw well?
Hugging strangers can seem really insincere, and without meaning.

So Meghan hugs, but also knows that her allegedly bullied staff are bound by non disclosures..?
The iron fist in a fluffy glove, methinks.

A prize bitch? For saying she didn’t realise formality carried over? Hypocrisy much…? Get a life OP, the sourpuss act doesn’t suit you

This. Absolute barf. I dont want to hug or be hugged by people I don't know just because they are with someone I do know. I like time.
In the Royal family she would be expected to curtsey to Catherine behind the scenes and in public. Harry should have explained all this to her. When I met my exhusbands family it was a formal affair. He explained what the dress code would be and I dressed appropriately.

@WookieWoo none of the people i know hug people they have just met and I know a lot of people who don't liek hugging as its personal space
So what if their formal that is also a choice as well , but maybe they are more relaxed with people as they get to know them or just a very close circle
Some people hate hugging and it isn't a general british greeting at all
Yes some people do but less don't

Let's not forget the royals BOW to the Monarch the first time they see her/him that day. Even when it's their mother/granny and now father. Even when there's no one else in the room. These medieval practices should have been ditched years ago unless in a public, formal setting.

It's not Meghan who's weird.

I think bringing an American into the royal family at that level was always going to be a challenge unless they were from one of the old money families or a presidents daughter, with some idea of what to expect and how to behave.

Someone like Catherine who has grown up with the royal family, seen the press coverage etc. has at least a head start.

In my opinion Harry should have prepared her better, made sure she knew what she would be getting into before he proposed, taken more time to integrate her as a girlfriend rather than jumping in feet first. Chelsey Davie was around a while and opted out, with Megan it was all very quick ( seemed quick to me) because they wanted dc and time was against them.

There are plenty of people who could have done an induction of sorts, courtiers but also lots of women have married Dukes and suchlike from non aristocratic backgrounds and could have mentored her. Sophie Wessex for one but lots of Duke's wives could have taken her under their wing if she'd been inclined to learn.

It was all handled badly and she's taken the position that's she's a victim, everything should have changed for her and Harry has gone along with that narrative. We've all laughed at memes and things on Facebook about Americans who can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't do things their way, to me this is an extreme example of that, meeting the future King for the first time is a fairly formal occasion even if he's your future brother in law, she's seen press coverage of Catherine, it's obvious she's never going to visit someone in ripped jeans and a T-shirt, I think most people would ere on the side of caution and dressed at least smart casual, Harry should have suggested a change of outfit, rather than her feeling awkward because she got it wrong and then blaming everyone else for that.

She’s not criticising them or saying anything mean. No one comes off badly in her statement.

She’s just saying that she didn’t really get it. That is all. Let’s all just calm down

@bakalava thats the thing isn't it , left ambiguous as she doesn't mentioned they commented on her dress and maybe they didn't care , maybe they even feel a little jealous of not feeling they can have same luxury , who knows
The formal stuff is just baffling as Harry knows all the protocol so why would he not tell her or warn her

You're not wrong.

Also why is everyone instantly enraged on Kate Middletons behalf?

The beatification of that woman has been ridiculous.

Get a grip.

There's protocol that must be followed at all times in regards to the royal family. Ie who's spoken to first etc. What she's said is true and not the norm for the rest of us!

@StarbucksSmarterSister but why it doesn't affect you does it ? Its their homes and life so why can't they do as they wish
But we actually don't know if its true unless they say it happens or if king charles has changed things or will change or William etc
But just as its ok for megan to be in jeans its ok for the RF to do as they see fit in their homes too

But she had not socks on? That's a bit Casual for welcoming guests you have never met into your home? Maybe it's a class thing but I know many upper middle class families who are a bit formal when they get together with the extended family.