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clyspa · 08/12/2022 08:22

It's landed - 3 episodes with what I assume is 3 next week.

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RosettaStormer · 09/12/2022 05:04

I was just astonished that literally from the first date they were photographing /filming themselves. I kept wondering who was taking the shots. Who was there with the camera? It was just so bizarre. The filming of the proposal was just so peculiar. She was obviously waiting for him to propose and had discussed it with the friend before it happened . She goes into his wardrobe and finds the ring. Films it and tells her friend ‘it’s happening’ . If is just so calculated. Why can’t Harry see that for himself? He was being groomed for want of a better word by her.

Why would anyone document themselves from the off, even down to taking a photo on their second meeting? I bet that was her idea so she could show her friends and boast.

The thing that hit me from the beginning was the statement right at the beginning saying the RF has not responded with any comment to the documentary. They hadn’t even seen it by that point!! So more lies, smoke and mirrors.

They came across as very soft and lovely, and their love seems genuine. However I think we are being told a very skewed and heavily edited version of what really happened. They know the RF can’t give their version, which seems very unfair.

I find them both very contrived, self satisfied and tone deaf. Whilst having sympathy for Ms struggle to fit in, I doubt it is really true there was no one to advise on protocol. I think she just didn’t want to listen. Why on earth didn’t she have a clue what a ‘walkabout’ was? Why didn’t she have a clue how to curtsy? It’s not hard to learn. I was taught at ballet school as a child! She hadn’t taken the trouble to find out anything about the family she was marrying into. I find that bewildering. She was an actress, used to learning lines and doing research on a role. How hard was it to watch footage of the Queen or even Diana? Was she just so lazy she couldn’t be bothered?

The first meeting with Kate and William…
They are public figures meeting a woman they don’t know , from a very different background. Of course they would have been wary and a bit worried . Hugging from the off and being completely relaxed would have been difficult. Harry’s other girlfriends had been introduced slowly and trust had been built up. Also, the narrative being told in this documentary is very different from that we were told at the engagement interview. ‘Catherine has been wonderful’. Now we are told she was cold and unwelcoming. They just keep shifting their accounts of what happened to fit the current mood. I get the idea that actual truth is something malleable for them. She in particular just invents herself as she goes along. If you consider this, if is rather chilling. Here is a couple who have ditched both their families apart from Doria, who it appears can do no wrong. They’ve caused immense hurt and pain. Yet they seem to have no real self awareness. They’re in a bubble of self congratulation and perceived victim status, living a very privileged life. That life wouldn’t have been possible without the status and titles bestowed by Harrys family connections. Yet they rubbish those at every turn.

They make race the reason for every difficult thing Meghan experienced. Instead of looking at themselves and wondering if perhaps their own behaviour and attitudes are to blame. The nasty British public and the evil Press are wholly to blame for their problems. Not forgetting the evil family.

Watching the documentary is like eating a huge luscious cake and then finding it is laced with poison.

Princessglittery · 09/12/2022 05:39

@RosettaStormer I agree why was MM able to google the words to the National Anthem but not “walkabout” or “curtsey”. Why didn’t Harry teach her the words? Who planned and organised the walkabout? Would they not have talked MM and H through the day and advised on what to wear and what to do?

I agree about W & K, if I was invited for a meal to meet a boyfriend/girlfriend for the first time I wouldn’t rock up in ripped jeans and a T-shirt, I would be smart casual. With all the press intrusion the RF get, I would also be a little circumspect in case it ended up being leaked. There is also something about class, in terms of how upper middle class people (Middleton’s) behave and dress for social engagements.

I think MM was implying royal interviews are normally scripted or at least they are given lines to take, hence the clip of K, Camilla etc all saying “Brilliant” in response to their engagement. I would be shocked if they weren’t.

I am also uneasy about the Stephen Lawrence segment, H turning up at the 25th anniversary, as sort of a here is me showing I’ve learned about racism. I am sure Charles has met with Doreen and Neville Lawrence over the years as I have recollections from seeing it on the news. It did seem disrespectful, but I can’t put my finger on why.

I felt really sorry for MM’s niece, I am struggling with the fact that she was not invited to the wedding. I know the press might have made a big deal about who her her Mum (Samantha), was, but most of the public would be able to comprehend a niece adopted by her paternal grandparents would not have influence over her Mum’s actions.

I have a feeling the big revelation’s will come in the next 3 episodes.

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/12/2022 06:05

@Princessglittery
For me it’s a question of boundaries. Doreen and Neville Lawrence, I imagine, have never been paid to talk about the murder of their child. My question is, did H&M have permission from them?

Colcat · 09/12/2022 07:17

Interesting that Meghan thought it was ok to go straight in for a hug with William and Kate, even though she'd never met them, yet barmen at the Kennedy prize event the other night supposedly reported that they'd been told they weren't allowed to look at Meghan and Harry.

Rhondaa · 09/12/2022 07:58

Colcat · 09/12/2022 07:17

Interesting that Meghan thought it was ok to go straight in for a hug with William and Kate, even though she'd never met them, yet barmen at the Kennedy prize event the other night supposedly reported that they'd been told they weren't allowed to look at Meghan and Harry.

Yes they may be huggers but as always it will be at their discretion. So if tindall or Edward had matched up and given her a 'hug' I bet they'd have been very cat's bum faced about it and wanged on about their personal space and boundaries.

They need to wear t-shirt with 'do as we say NOT as we do' .

Pugdogmom · 09/12/2022 08:29

I always liked H and M, but my sympathy for them is waining. Watching that documentary ( 3 hours of my life I'll never get back), think I was 20 minutes in, and just thought this is just so staged, and felt M was acting. Found the whole thing just so self indulgent.
So many changes of stories and discrepancies about how they met, engagement etc. Nothing new to report.
Supposed to be about their " truth", and yet thought they had pretty much told their story in the OP interview. Let's be honest, it's about the £88 million quid that they allegedly got for this series. And Harry's book will probably earn them another £23m or whatever. Now I get they have to fund their lavish lifestyle, but let's not pretend it's about anything else but money, not truth. Wondering what else they'll do, because the only thing that they have left is their " Royal " connections.

Despite the first 3 episodes being a " yawnfest", I'll probably watch the rest as I admit I'm nosey and want to see what else they say. Particularly about the terms of their departure and the half in half out thing they wanted, although some covered in Oprah.
If they are that interested in living their new life, why is Harry keeping his succession to the throne, and renewed his lease on Frogmore?
And I agree with whoever mentioned about Thomas Markle being cut off but yet they do this? I have a feeling that he was never going to be at that wedding, no matter what.
Harry has whinged about his family, and yet recently has behaved like a spoilt privileged brat and expects to be the prodigal son/brother when he goes back to UK.
Whether he goes to Coronation or is even invited will be interesting.
Just to say, I was like most people, happy when he married Meghan and thought she was a breath of fresh air. She was absolutely treated abominably by the tabloids and I understand why they left. However the stuff that has come out recently ( from them with OP to start with), smacks of toys out pram because they didn't get what they wanted from the " divorce " settlement.

Roussette · 09/12/2022 08:37

If they are that interested in living their new life, why is Harry keeping his succession to the throne, and renewed his lease on Frogmore?

He can't remove himself without agreement from the King and an Act of Parliament. The poster who keep on about removing his titles, his place within the RF. It is impossible.

Why should he not keep somewhere to come to when he comes to the Uk? Are you saying he should never come back to England? Or should he book an AirBnB?

diddl · 09/12/2022 08:40

I can't get over the "curtsey" thing.

Tbh I think it could have been quite interesting from her perspective.

I think it would be a shock to anyone tbh.

Some people could adapt/put up with it & not others.

To try to make a mockery of it all-why?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/12/2022 08:55

The thing that hit me from the beginning was the statement right at the beginning saying the RF has not responded with any comment to the documentary. They hadn’t even seen it by that point!!

Quite
Even on here some of us avoided comments about the actual programme until we'd seen it, so on this one why on earth would the RF be any different?

At least it wasn't an out and out hatchet job - though what's in the next three is anyone's guess - but for this reason I do wonder if Netflix will consider they've got their money's worth

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 09/12/2022 08:55

The curtsy was interesting to watch. Meghan revelled in how funny she was, she loved telling that anecdote. Harry looked uncomfortable. And she gave him a side eye in the end.

it would be interesting to see what a body language expert makes of it.

diddl · 09/12/2022 09:03

Tbh I think that the RF would be better off saying nothing.

Are they hoping that the RF not commenting will be taken as they are telling the truth?

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 09/12/2022 09:09

Whereabouts does the curtsy bit occur? Googling brings up a lot of press coverage but I can't find an actual video snippet.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 09/12/2022 09:11

Are they hoping that the RF not commenting will be taken as they are telling the truth?

Who knows? Personally I think that Netflix are hoping that it will provoke a response from the RF, it would be a great advert for the second three episodes, I think they could quite quickly cobble together a new trailer. I hope the RF either don't comment and basically members shrug their shoulders or give a really bland response if asked when going about their usual royal business.

Covetthee · 09/12/2022 09:13

diddl · 09/12/2022 09:03

Tbh I think that the RF would be better off saying nothing.

Are they hoping that the RF not commenting will be taken as they are telling the truth?

I don’t think the RF will win either way. If don’t comment, people will take it all as truth and if they do comment then it becomes tit for tat. They need to take Michelle obama’s advice, ‘when they go low we go high’

they just need to let these 2 run their course, they’ve done their show, sold out their life and their ‘privacy’ that they so craved, after harry’s book what else do they have to attack the RF with?

I haven’t seen much support for them via this documentary tbh...

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 09/12/2022 09:14

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 09/12/2022 09:09

Whereabouts does the curtsy bit occur? Googling brings up a lot of press coverage but I can't find an actual video snippet.

They are sitting on a sofa talking about it, not too sure where, I think episode 2.

bakalava · 09/12/2022 09:17

They need to take Michelle obama’s advice, ‘when they go low we go high’

For them it would be a bit like trekking Everest with no skills or experience in mountaineering. I'm not sure it is possible but they can put out some glossy promos to suggest that they don't need to as they have already been sainted by every philanthropy organisation out there.

MarshaMelrose · 09/12/2022 09:24

diddl · 09/12/2022 08:40

I can't get over the "curtsey" thing.

Tbh I think it could have been quite interesting from her perspective.

I think it would be a shock to anyone tbh.

Some people could adapt/put up with it & not others.

To try to make a mockery of it all-why?

Thousands of people met the Queen every year, both publicly and in her state apartments. They all managed to make appropriate curtsey. I really don't see the big fuss. Angelina Jolie managed it just fine and I bet, because she's a good actress who does her homework, she could have learned the national anthem, which consists of about 20 words, without crying that a royal aide hadn't helped her. Honestly, MM comes across as a bit helpless and feeble for a 40 yo woman who is supposed to be as proactive as she and all her friends say she is.

MarshaMelrose · 09/12/2022 09:28

They need to take Michelle obama’s advice, ‘when they go low we go high’

Michelle Obama advised Meghan not to hit the ground running but to take her time, sit back, watch and learn. She also advised her and Harry to stop talking about family.
Safe to say, no one listens to Michelle Obama. 😁

TillyTheTeddy · 09/12/2022 09:33

It's quite amusing that some posters here refer with disdain to the press yet they sit and suck up a manufactured and manipulated documentary on Netflix of all places. As M herself said it is through someone else's lens.

TillyTheTeddy · 09/12/2022 09:34

Can you imagine if the Queen had still been alive and had seen this pair laughing about not knowing the national anthem and mocking a curtsey ?

FortheBeautyoftheEarth · 09/12/2022 09:45

LOL - Does anyone else see the irony of Meghan stating that the engagement interview as 'a carefully orchestrated reality show' from within a carefully orchestrated Netflix reality show?!

And nobody thinks those engagement interviews are completely off the cuff, of course they are rehearsed. It doesn't mean they are an utter fabrication. It's like preparing for any other interview - you want to get across the things that are important to you. It's less manipulative than what they are currently doing.

Princessglittery · 09/12/2022 09:48

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/12/2022 06:05

@Princessglittery
For me it’s a question of boundaries. Doreen and Neville Lawrence, I imagine, have never been paid to talk about the murder of their child. My question is, did H&M have permission from them?

That’s it exactly.

Princessglittery · 09/12/2022 09:53

MarshaMelrose · 09/12/2022 09:24

Thousands of people met the Queen every year, both publicly and in her state apartments. They all managed to make appropriate curtsey. I really don't see the big fuss. Angelina Jolie managed it just fine and I bet, because she's a good actress who does her homework, she could have learned the national anthem, which consists of about 20 words, without crying that a royal aide hadn't helped her. Honestly, MM comes across as a bit helpless and feeble for a 40 yo woman who is supposed to be as proactive as she and all her friends say she is.

Yes. That piece of footage with the curtsey is going to be replayed for decades.

Snugglepiggy · 09/12/2022 09:56

Interesting comment from MM about the engagement interview. I'm not watching but reading the summary on BBC.Mishal Hussain has reacted saying 'that recollections may vary 'as she was 'asked to do an interview,did an interview' Straightforward.
Whereas MM has branded it as an 'orchestrated reality show '.Which is a a tad ironic given that the NF docuseries fits that bill ?

redandyellowbits · 09/12/2022 09:59

MarshaMelrose · 09/12/2022 09:24

Thousands of people met the Queen every year, both publicly and in her state apartments. They all managed to make appropriate curtsey. I really don't see the big fuss. Angelina Jolie managed it just fine and I bet, because she's a good actress who does her homework, she could have learned the national anthem, which consists of about 20 words, without crying that a royal aide hadn't helped her. Honestly, MM comes across as a bit helpless and feeble for a 40 yo woman who is supposed to be as proactive as she and all her friends say she is.

That's a good point, something about her chatting about the curtseying seemed off, esp as Harry looked so uncomfortable.

She would have seen Royals shaking hands with actors/actresses at movie premieres like we have all seen on the news and daily tv.

I would know how to curtsey to the Queen, and I haven't touched Harry with a bargepole. Her 'but I didn't know' routine is really very disengenuous.

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