Netflix prog chat

[clyspa]

It's landed - 3 episodes with what I assume is 3 next week.

Just be natural and barefoot. Hug people spontaneously.

You represent all people of colour, all over the world

Iced / Harry didn't it was David Olusoga

So they went to a memorial for Stephen

I was unaware until recently that Charles had guest edited the voice it that Harry read out at the memorial Charles' words

It's the week of the wedding

They are told a story about to break about her dad.

James their comms guy now - saying he thought pics of the dad pretty innocuous (which they were to be fair) snd he thought the one of him looking at a book on castles was sweet

He thought they were genuine but he was then told it was a set up if staged photos for money

MM and h call dad he says not true he's taking money to stage photos

She suggests they send someone to get him as story will break and paps will descend . It would just mean picking up one day early.

He says no he has things to do

She thinks it sounds cagey and doesn't make sense

They hung up and she tells Harry she doesn't know why but she first believe her dad

And, as suggested in another thread, use the phrase 'with stakes this high, doesn't it make sense to hear the story from me?' to win any arguments at work
If someone wants to hug me I look jarring enough without even saying so after Covid. But this one is priceless @Sigma33 I might try it on DH first, for practice purposes.

So they went to a memorial for Stephen
I was unaware until recently that Charles had guest edited the voice it that Harry read out at the memorial Charles' words

What?

Story breaks - suggested he staged them himself and sold them for $100k

Doria says she's stunned he's become part of the circus

It's not what you do as a parent / it's not parenting

He doesn't pick up MMs calls and she's speaking to TMZ as Tom has told them he's not going to the wedding

She's saying she then gets text he's in hospital - she like we aren't mad just pick up the phone

The world is watching this drama play out

After 20 or do texts she says someone texted back but she doesn't think it was him and not in his usual style including calling her Meghan which he's never done (calls her Meg)

So she thinks it's not my dad

Do they think his phone has been compromised- Harry gets involved asking him to call him to verify who this is texting

When they went to the memorial he read out a note from Charles

Latterly Charles edited the voice (a black paper) and referred to Stephen as setting up a foundation I understand

Harry saying he shoulders responsibility for Meg now not having a father

That's it - maybe they'll explain it more like how come never spoke again or go to Mexico to have it out with him etc

@LemonSwan hope your little one gets better soon and enjoys the first Xmas fully.

Exactly, so either the engagement interview was a total lie or the Netlix interview is a total lie...

I feel rude saying this but I can't move away from thinking that she was a fame hungry z list actress craving the celeb lifestyle and saw harry as her free meal ticket to a life of wealth, fame and privilege. I imagine so couldn't believe her luck

Thank you @clyspa for this excellent summary.

@Hillcrest2022 i agree.

with regards how they met, I thought they explained that what they originally said was what they were told to say.

I am shocked by the vitriol I have seen on Mumsnet tonight. i was hoping for a better debate versus the wider population who are influenced by the gutter press.

In the episode, even though they say "we met on Instagram", it was still through a friend. They said he saw a picture of her on a friend's Instagram and asked about her, that friend then messaged Meghan and set them up. So, it being via Instagram and it being a set up are both true and make the whole story.

I don't think this segment is worth the price Netflix have paid

Having now watched it, it's hard to imagine any of it is; it feels like a film version of the kind of book which goes straight to the remainder bin, or as the pal I watched it with said "That's three hours of my life I won't get back"

Apart from Harry's constantly glancing at his wife for validation, the only thing that really stood out to me was the oddness of so much intimate stuff being filmed at the time - even the engagement thing "It's happening!! He's told me not to peek!!"
I mean, who even does that, unless they really do intend to merchandise it later?

I've watched 2 episodes. I really liked them both. She comes across as warm, fun and really nice. He was a little colder and distant, but less so than his family. I had no idea about the level of intrusion in their lives. It was interesting, and good to hear what they had to say.

I don't do gutter press and fundamentally dislike what Meghan and Harry are doing to his family and how they are conducting themselves in the programmes they have produced or actively taken part in. I dislike the way they paint themselves as poor victims when they are incredibly privileged, it's insincere. I also dislike Trump and Melania for completely different reasons. Not because of the gutter press but because of their actions and how they convey themselves directly to audiences on SM. It's possible to dislike people and it not being due to racist reasons.

@WeWereInParis either way, I think we are making the same point - that they were not lying (I was multitasking Christmas whilst watching).

@Autumnisclose i agree. I went in pretty agnostic. I haven’t made my mind up fully but can’t quite believe the attitudes on here.

@SergeiL agree with you and don't understand the vitriol either.

Also, loved the home and decor so that was fun to see.

I watched all 3 episodes. Am slightly divided as to my feeling at the end of it? One area I’m not divided on is the press - shocking in many parts.

Meghan has a lovely voice - she should definitely explore audio work further.

Am slightly flummoxed by the video footage/recording re the proposal. I totally get calling a friend. I find it really blooming odd to record said call.

It was interesting seeing her agent say that he did not know she was mixed race at first - thought she was a freckled, sun-kissed California girl. That was, pretty much, my impression of her for quite a while - had no idea she was mixed race, not that it matters that she is, just did not enter my head as a thought process. Yet, time and again on here, people are slapped down for saying that. All I know is that I thought, and still think, that she is a stunningly beautiful woman - in a way that also looks very natural and relaxed.

I loved the Lesotho footage - everything about it and it’s obvious that Harry felt completely himself there. From his insta feed that Meghan mentioned, the fact that the first place he took Meghan away was to Botswana - he seemed to look/sound happier than he does in his life re USA/UK etc.

There were definitely sly digs in there around marrying for love vs selecting a mould fit. That’s going to hurt William, not cool imo.

Not impressed with the footage of the Diana interview. I get it was a pivotal moment, but it’s been requested that it should never be aired again. I totally agree with that request and think it’s awful that clips were shown.

Not important, but didn’t like the dress where loads of people helped her into it. Hated the colour and she looks way better in streamlined clothing.

The social media (Twitter) stuff is vile. Yet some of the footage/press showed how happy people were about them getting married.

Do I think they’re in love? Yes
Do I think they feed off each other? Yes
Do I think the press/sm was/is awful? Yes
Do I think they need to move on now? Yes

I think the next 3 episodes will be a bit more damaging to Britain and the RF.

Oh, and his comments re serving the army grated slightly. Yes, it gave him a very lived experience. But you can’t use that to denigrate what others have done.

William fully embraced and loved his time as an helicopter pilot for the rescue service. I also think he and Kate benefited a lot from their time living “normally” on Anglesey. That was the right thing to do before they got married.

And the point re snipers being used. That was/is fairly standard practice for large state occasions. I used to work opposite a venue used fairly often for Royal visits. It never stopped feeling slightly surreal to look out of the window to see people with guns on the opposite roof!

TBF, I can agree with the perceived optics here. It would have encouraged a whole can of worms in the press - niece invited but her mother, MM’s half-sister not invited. The niece would probably have faced even more press intrusion. Not an easy decision to make.

The thing, which stood out from me was the narrative that Meghan had given everything up for Harry so he was prepared to do the same for her when they left the RF… Part of me wonders if this was a narrative or pact created at the beginning and a planted seed, which then germinated.

As for Meghan trying to be ‘a good girl’ and fit in, not draw attention to herself with her clothes, I can imagine this was difficult and also think she looked stunning in whatever she wore. It is interesting though that other royal women are wearing colours, eg the shot of Camilla and Catherine, which I think was when Meghan wore camel and the brown hat.

It is alleged that both Camilla then Sophie tried to advise her on protocol and were both rebuffed. Would they have helped with this? I’m just wondering why Meghan couldn’t have enquired as to what colours to avoid for certain events. Or is it only the direct lineage and spouses, who are allowed to wear colours?

I am pretty disappointed with certain aspects of the series, the bowing ridiculously low to HMQ - no one is a devoted servant or worse - this not being the 15th century - and she’s female so she would not have bowed, bringing Stephen Lawrence into the conversation and painting the British public as racist for voting Brexit (was pro EU myself).

That said, I also do feel for Meghan. I do have personal experience of living in a country as a foreigner, when a contentious election, and from which I could draw parallels was happening, and the atmosphere was palpable. I think as an outsider, it was a culture shock and quite unsettling. The racially motivated headlines (which I understand were mostly not generated in this country) are appalling.

In some respects though Meghan has been her worst enemy and the cynic in me thinks the contingency was always to leave. She is so very different from every other royal wife. As someone said, she is so camera aware, which isn’t surprising as she grew up on the stuff. Filming Harry down on one knee and calling a friend when ‘it is happening’ is just so alien to me.

Meghan appears to live her whole life watching herself, which is why she isn’t a great actress. Part of acting is letting go and just being the character. I do hope she does let herself go when the doors close. I can understand she enjoys playing to the camera. But that’s not the same as just being.