Netflix prog chat

[clyspa]

It's landed - 3 episodes with what I assume is 3 next week.

They talk about art work glorifying the black slave trade and then show a statue of a slave with manacles on his ankles. I think that shows the horrors and don’t think we should remove items like that from display. We can’t pretend it did it happen.

Presumably they will move onto the details of how the USA came about, including the decimation of indigenous peoples, the economy based on slavery, the slave owning founding fathers etc

And cover the aspects of the causes of the American Revolution which relate to the founding fathers rejecting the UK government's attempts to restrict the European settlers from taking the land from, and murdering, the original inhabitants!

Who's pretending slavery didn't happen?

Also - name any country in the world whose history is unaffected by conflict, expansion and the economic exploitation of others. That is human history, not just British.

Ah, yes @Sigma33 . Manifest Destiny.
Perhaps what California was like before it was a state of the USA, and what became of all those indigenous people.

I am sure they will cover the problematic aspects of American history as well as British history... as part of their decision making around living in the USA rather than the UK 😀

8 days after the press reported their relationship Harry put out his statement about the race abuse

I'm not saying he was wrong but wonder if that only caused it to intensify - it had gotten a reaction out of him

Episode 3 Harry addresses the nazi uniform and calls it the biggest mistake of his life, and says he learnt from it.
No mention of his later racist language and comments despite him talking about the importance of recognising and addressing racism and unconscious bias.

How about a bit of balance then, since the US was pretty much built on slavery.

But of course this show seems to be for an American audience - and the US media loves to take aim at the UK, while patently ignoring their own shit. And I say that as an Irish person, with no vested interest in bigging up the UK, except I can see the hypocrisy.

To be fair a lot of this may be from the Netflix producers or editors, but I'm assuming H&M had a final say over the finished product.

People do films themselves, that's true, but most film their happy moments, family celebrations.

Not every single moment, not when I'm crying, or when someone in my family is crying.

Why would they? They were relating it to a piece of jewellery that a member of royal family was wearing that was considered racist and they explained that there is lots of artifacts that are racist and why that is. I think it was definitely related to the topic and its good to know .

So yes now getting into the U.K. being a predominantly white country, black women in public roles are especially fair game, tabloids arbiters of what the great unwashed think

U haven't watched tic tik then! It's full of crying people! They are documenting their life its not all instragramable happy times!

U haven't watched tic tik then! It's full of crying people! They are documenting their life its not all instragramable happy times!

That's tiktok though, they are posting it for likes and followers and to get noticed. I'd also wager some of it was because they had mental health problems.

I'm reality normal people don't film themselves crying. That's not normal behaviour.

He talks about being the child of divorced people - some comments may be telling: about competitive parents, being pulled from place to place, bring somewhere for longer than you want

MM says her parents co- parented well - the cynic in me finds her being able to recite a poem she wrote about her divorced parents when she was 12 a little contrived 'two kitchens, two phones, two sofas where I sleep' but I can accept I'm being harsh

The discussion is of their kids being mixed race
And Harry learning (it seems at the same time as MM from her earlier comments) about being mixed race

If I'm recording a video diary of an a day and something happens that makes me cry r u saying that she shouldn't be crying? I mean surely If she wasn't crying some would moan how she emotionless, she honestly cannot win!

Are u saying no one can cry every on camera when they are recounting a sad time? Or an emotional event? Like really? What a bizarre take!

She says she lived with Doris during the week and Thomas at the weekend. His adult kids had moved out (not bro/sis - no surprise there)

The USA is also a predominantly white country, isn't it? As are most European countries. I'm not really sure where this is going ,but it's not really groundbreaking is it?

To provide context to their decision to live in and bring their children up in the USA rather than the UK?

As a white woman who adopted trans-racially while living in South Africa, and then moved back to the UK, the relative benefits to DD of living in each country was the most important aspect of my decision, trumping my need for wider family support, stable employment etc

Within SA DD was part of the majority, and had ready access to her specific (Xhosa) culture of birth. However, overt racism is the norm.

Here, a member of a minority group, lumped together with any other Black African, whatever the distance between cultures.

According to DD, now aged 15 and living her for 3 years, she experiences less racism here. She is one of about 1/3 black pupils in her school class here, compared to being in the 2-5% in her SA school, as areas with 'good' state schools still have very few black families. But she does experience racism here, and it's important to acknowledge that and give both sides of the choice.

I thought she lived with her Dad? Her Mum wasn't around much?

If I'm recording a video diary of an a day and something happens that makes me cry r u saying that she shouldn't be crying? I mean surely If she wasn't crying some would moan how she emotionless, she honestly cannot win!

If you were filming a video diary about your day you would surely just say you cried because of XYZ. You wouldn't whip out the camera whilst you were actually crying about the issue and record yourself crying. Unless you were vlogging and looking for more views then yes that's very odd not normal behaviour.

She says she was a daddy's girl and with him a lot

She loved her job, had low key life with hikes and 2 dogs in cute residential area

I'm beginning to wonder why the plan was just got him to 'leave' and join her life in Toronto / seems ideal!

But she isn't looking for my views she isn't putting on YouTube it will or will not be used in a documentary, at editors decision. honestly I belive she will never be able to do anything right because people will just pick apart everything and veey clearly do.