Anyone else who will NOT be watching Netflix

[Lesserspottedmama]

..but absolutely will be here for the threads to work out what has been said 😆

I have zero interesting in watching, not even seen the trailer, but I do enjoy reading people discussing it.

What... masturbation do you mean?! 😂

No! .

Did you watch @Roussette ? I know you are a fan. I'd be interested to hear your take. FWIW my mum was on the slightly negative side of neutral and watched and is now on the positive side of neutral (which means she loved it. :) )

Yes, watched all three!

I don't think of myself as a fan, I just don't hate them with a vengeance and I do think they have been unfairly treated by the media.

I liked the series. Yes, it was a schmaltzy love story but it was interlinked with historical events and a push back against the toxic media which I liked. I thought they came across well, but I can see how lots of it would either irritate people or it would fuel the incandescent rage that some feel about them. All in all, I enjoyed it.

Thanks. We are supposed to be getting netflix 'soon' (It was actually supposed to be my Christmas present from last year!). Maybe I will watch it. I might start it anyway. I find them hard to stomach though so will see how far I get. I am dying to watch the next series of the Crown though.

Oh I see Sweetpeas fair enough, I agree that the Netflix programmes are more polished than the OW interview. OW is a skilled operator.

I do worry about how they are going to generate income once they have mined the “royal turns back on palace” seam, but Meghan seems pretty savvy so I imagine she will think of something.

Tbh though, although it is traumatic to cut yourself off from your country, family and friends, Harry never had a normal childhood. He shuffled about between his parents, school, different country estates, constant trips abroad - it’s not as though he was ever settled anywhere tbh - and emotional ties are bound to be weakened by all of that. I can see why he felt restless and dissatisfied with his life as it was.

Me too, so many predictable responses too. I've not watched it and don't intend to. Unfortuantely I don't pay for my Netflix access otherwise I'd cancel it!

Of course no one is obliged to watch if it’s not a subject that interests you.

However, if pps care enough to comment on this thread, then I can’t understand why they wouldn’t watch H & M’s interpretation of events?

Surely it’s better to hear their version than read it second hand? And certainly better than forming your opinion from views filtered through Piers Morgan and the Daily Mail or official royal correspondents for that matter (and H &M had interesting things to say about how the latter group function).

After all the British tabloids do have a unique place in British society that is slightly different to the rest of Europe (who have tabloids but they are not taken as seriously). And standards of journalism have taken a significant dive since the 1980s.

People may say “oh I never read the Daily Mail” but if you think it doesn’t have a massive influence on daily discourse within British public life, then frankly you are deluded!

There are some very powerful and clever people behind the DM driving specific narratives in the uk which sadly are both misogynistic and racist. And people appear to be blind to it!

Do you really think that Piers Morgan is balanced in his views of MM? He is positively frothing at the mouth about her.

I honestly think all the outrage has come about bc MM as a strong intelligent bi-racial woman was swept on to our tiny shores and looked at the way our privilege and tradition-bound institutions are run, from a perspective entirely different to our own, and said “no thanks”. And people are now saying “how bloody dare she?” when she is well within her rights to make that decision.

And as a white person, why wouldn’t one try and take on board what some black people are telling us about the origins of the Commonwealth?

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Oh for heaven’s sake - you think that we honestly need an American woman to tell many of us what we already knew about the RF and the class system? Or the origins of the Commonwealth? Those of us who would quite happily see the back of them figured this out a while ago all by ourselves - those who are quite happy with those structures won’t change their minds as a result of this pair who often have a rather loose grasp of reality.

I look forward to the day - hopefully very soon - when the Sussexes join us republicans, publicly denounce their titles and move forward positively with other business interests that don’t involve monetising their connections with such an institution in any way, shape or form.

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After all the British tabloids do have a unique place in British society that is slightly different to the rest of Europe (who have tabloids but they are not taken as seriously)

A subtle version of the Britain-is-uniquely-shit-and-everywhere-else-is-just-better MN trope.

People may say “oh I never read the Daily Mail” but if you think it doesn’t have a massive influence on daily discourse within British public life, then frankly you are deluded!

We're being gulled, everyone, by a tabloid and its shadowy manipulators. The opinions we think are our own actually aren't. This only applies to the UK, because other countries don't take THEIR tabloid press "so seriously", whatever that's meant to mean. We're being influenced. Yes, even if we don't read it. Disagree? Deluded!

There are some very powerful and clever people behind the DM driving specific narratives in the uk which sadly are both misogynistic and racist. And people appear to be blind to it!

Ah, yes, see? Being manipulated, too stupid to know, only in the UK, "blind" if you disagree.

Do you really think that Piers Morgan is balanced in his views of MM? He is positively frothing at the mouth about her.

Who thinks he's balanced? Most people hate him. It's well known he has a personal vendetta against her. You are, I think, the first person to have mentioned Piers Morgan on this thread. I wonder why.

I honestly think all the outrage has come about bc MM as a strong intelligent bi-racial woman was swept on to our tiny shores and looked at the way our privilege and tradition-bound institutions are run, from a perspective entirely different to our own, and said “no thanks”. And people are now saying “how bloody dare she?” when she is well within her rights to make that decision.

My favourite bit
Yes, we British are a backward and parochial lot, unable to comprehend or appreciate the wonder that is Meghan Markle

I rather think we're just pretty good at spotting a faker.

I don't think many people say 'how dare she' for wanting out. More 'how dare she want to keep the title and the benefits while whingeing about what comes with it', and 'how irritating that he is lecturing people one things he's just realised about the royal family, and most people have known for years'.

on things, not one things...

No, I’m not adding to their numbers. I think it’s in really bad taste, they are clearly two very unhappy people trying to get revenge it doesn’t seems healthy at all.

I agree, I think it's so ridiculous to have an American production trying to tarr the whole UK as racist, when they need to look in their own back yards. The US is no bastion of race relations - it just smacks of hypocrisy.

As for the RF, H&M seemed ok with it all when the institution was paying for their multi million pound wedding - didn't seem to mind it then.

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I honestly think all the outrage has come about bc MM as a strong intelligent bi-racial woman was swept on to our tiny shores and looked at the way our privilege and tradition-bound institutions are run, from a perspective entirely different to our own, and said “no thanks”. And people are now saying “how bloody dare she?” when she is well within her rights to make that decision.

WTF is this about? How insulting. Britain doesn't need a B rate actress with a tenuous relationship with the truth to tell them all about how their institutions are run.

Could you imagine how that would go down in the US? If someone from Eastenders or something married into the Trump family, and started whining about how shite the US is - they'd be slated!

Fine. Ditch the title then.

Be a Mrs not a Duchess.

Ah ... Duchess goes so does lucrative income !

Sorry for quoting the long post

Won’t watch but absolutely here for the MN threads on it.

Pretty much a good steer to believe the opposite of whatever toxic agenda the Daily Heil is pushing. So that's easy given the huge volume of bile they are spewing about HM.

I won't be watching it, I can't stand it when people air their dirty laundry in public, keep things private amongst yourselves. X

Yeah that's absolutely what Mumsnet is all about 😂.

I do actually believe now that a large percentage of MN have actually lost their minds over this.

They haven't done a thread on mumsnet yet, maybe that's next

MM as a strong intelligent bi-racial woman was swept on to our tiny shores and looked at the way our privilege and tradition-bound institutions are run, from a perspective entirely different to our own, and said “no thanks”.

Meghan wanted to work for the RF (she had a choice) and then she still wanted to work for the RF but also make her own money. Whatever the ins and outs, Meghan embraced the institution of the RF far more than most of us ever have.

Agree - and not only that, she married a man whose racist language and Nazi japes were well known. Most of us wouldn’t give this type of man the time of day, let alone marry them.