Does Harry dislike his family?

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Just with the Oprah interview, this new Netflix thing and then his book that is coming out soon.

Anyone would think he dislikes his own family. What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

But they announced she was in labour when he’d already been born. It was really odd. Why say anything about the labour but. Just announce he’s been born when you want to.

If the family are so awful and treated him so badly, why do they keep using their titles to make money. Make a clean break and start out on your own.

The fact of the matter is the only thing they have to sell is his story about his mother dying 25 years ago. Now that's been done to death they need to use their Duke and Duchess titles for clout as they have nothing else.

I'm not saying the royal family are perfect, but talking shit about them to anyone that will listen and then using that connection to stay famous is massively hypocritical.

Also they both were informed that Prince Philip was dying. Rather than chose to visit him and say goodbye, they aired the Oprah documentary that no doubt distressed him greatly in his dying days. By all accounts the family knew The Queen was very ill and reached out to them to visit her when they were in the UK. They turned her down and she died a few days later.

This is a toxic situation but I'm really fed up of the woe is me narrative they keep pushing out about themselves. They have been just as nasty and give as good as they get. But they wont include that on their Netflix documentary because she is a master of PR and wants to look like a saint

I keep asking the question about titles ( and writing paper with coronets ) and immediately I am asked what about Andrew ?
But I agree , I would think more of them if they dropped all titles and talked about stuff ( although who knows what) apart from the RF and Diana’s death.

Until fairly recently, the new mother didn't appear outside the hospital with her new baby posing for the cameras. Royal births were at home and the announcement of the birth was placed on the Palace gates. In past times the birth was witnessed by a government minister so that there was no possibility of a live baby being smuggled in to replace a stillborn.We've done away with that indignity. I see nothing wrong with them wanting privacy for the birth, it was the whole nonsense of pretending that Archie had yet to be born that made it silly. Along with the other whining about how no one asked how Meghan was etc. I mean we assumed that they were both happy being together and doing things that they wanted to do. We aren't their therapist after all. I didn't expect them to start with a list of issues should they be asked the common and throw away question of 'how are you?'

Typos! Sorry!

I do wonder when they weren't allowed what they wanted who was the most pissed off?

Harry because he really thought that he could have it and it made him realise that he wasn't as important as he thought?

Meghan because she then realised that Harry hadn't told the truth about life within the RF?

They need each other now.

Just some over-entitled people cashing in.

Plus her half- brother’s letter to Harry.
That was prescient, too.

They know Meghan too well.
Harry is clearly being manipulated, he is weak, a spoiled little boy with a bossy , isolating mummy.

Maybe he likes it?
But his constant whining and wingeing gets very tedious.
Lots of us lose a parent young, and just have to cope as best you can.
No alternative.

Oh god, no issues at all with them wanting to avoid the vulture squadron camped outside the hospital - that’s just horrible. I always thought that was dreadful for Kate and I don’t blame anyone for wanting to avoid that! But it was a bit odd, the way they said she was in labour when she wasn’t - why say anything at all? It just seemed very confused and weird, and also seems to have been the starting point of things beginning to deteriorate publicly (of course things may well have been going wrong behind closed doors before that).

Did Harry genuinely not realise his own family was racist?

I mean, I could tell you the exact attitudes of almost every member of my family and predict how the would react to most situations fairly accurately, based on past experiences.

So despite doing the sum total of jack shit over his life so far to address the racism in his family, he marries a mixed race woman from another culture and then starts scratching his head when his family behave like they have done for his entire life.

He really is dim.

But are they really? Aside from Philips clumsy gaffes, Harry himself is guilty of the most public racism. Wearing a Nazi uniform, calling a colleague a 'Paki', and referring to others as ragheads, When he was dating a South African girl, he apparently said ‘but don’t worry, she’s not black!’.

People will leap to defend him claiming he’s moved on and regrets and has learned from his past mistakes, but I don’t recall that he’s ever addressed this publicly?

Which is why him actually being nominated for this Ripple of Hope award is just bizarre beyond words.

That is exactly what I think !

Well yes, absolutely. And I'm guessing a lot of those attitudes were learnt from his family.

There’s no indication of that at all. I don’t think anyone would reasonable think his mother was racist. And Charles is really quite famously socially progressive, I think he would have been ‘woke’ before the term was even invented.

Private boarding school and the army are far more likely to have been the breeding grounds for Harry’s racism.

But he was an adult when he made these comments ! My late father had a tendency to refer to POC in disparaging terms but I don’t!
Harry himself decided to make his racist comments.

I agree with this.

It’s often trotted out as fact that the RF is racist, but I’ve never seen anything from Charles to indicate this is true of him.

I also find it funny that in doing what they’re doing, they seem to have made the royal family even more united.

I was under the impression that William and Charles clashed for years, but they seem a very strong and united team right now.

Indeed . I have just read an announcement that KC, C , W and other members of the RF will attend the Carol Concert arranged by the POW. No doubt the Middletons will also be out in force.

Just wanted to agree with PP, this so-called “tradition” (which is not traditional at all) of wanting women who have just given birth to stand around in makeup and high heels with their newborns is just gross. It needs to stop. It’s not fair on women or on babies. I actually don’t care if Catherine “feels fine” after just giving birth; it’s creating unrealistic expectations about the post parturition state in a way that is actively harmful to other women, and I don’t think such tiny babies should be brandished in front of the press either.

I think M and H would have had a lot of support had they simply announced the labor and birth but stated that they wanted some privacy until Meghan had recovered properly from the birth.

My friend loved his family until he married a narcissist. Now he's pretty much estranged from all of them. It's heartbreaking. I see parallels.

I was under the impression that William and Charles clashed for years, but they seem a very strong and united team right now.

Perhaps both being heirs united them though-that "bond" that Harry couldn't have.

As things changed William would always follow on from Charles.

I also find it funny that in doing what they’re doing, they seem to have made the royal family even more united.

Of course it could just be "The Firm" showing a united front rather than them pulling together as a family.

The only thing I know is that H&M have their side and the rest of the family have theirs. Somewhere in the middle is the truth.

I don't think Harry has ever recovered from his mum's death and walking behind her coffin. I think Megan gave him the confidence to change his life. Whether that is for the good or not remains to be seen.