Does Harry dislike his family?

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Just with the Oprah interview, this new Netflix thing and then his book that is coming out soon.

Anyone would think he dislikes his own family. What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

1. Diana was not a commoner. She was an aristocrat and much was made of her distant ancestors having royal blood at the time of the marriage. There was even a large official family tree poster detailing this link for us true commoners to buy.

2. Meghan knew more about the royals than she let on. Photographs have surfaced of her and a childhood friend outside Buckingham palace when they were teens. In the media it is claimed the friend reported Meghan wanted to be Diana 2.0.

3. I think you’re right about her not knowing about Royal life. For starters it has been reported she thought she was marrying the (at the time) third in line to the throne.

4. Meghan was offered help to ease into royal life. However, she rejected courtiers advice, allegedly because they were too lowly. Camilla tried and was rebuffed. Sophie was then drafted in. Her help was also rejected. It would appear Meghan knew nothing of protocol because she chose not to listen and made a series of faux pas. Eg on the balcony, when Harry ended up telling her eyes front and to be quiet.

5. Meghan was ‘allowed’ to act. HMQ tried to encourage her to continue. M chose not to. As for returning to acting. Unfortunately she’s not very good at it and due to sexism, she’s considered the wrong side of 35 or 40.

6. Idk what you mean about the RF making sure Diana would be out of the picture one way or another. Diana died because she refused British security, which would have kept her safe. She died because she and Dodi decided to leave the Ritz hotel and face the paparazzi rather than spend the night in one of the hotel rooms. She died because the driver was several times over the alcohol limit. She died because the driver was over twice the speed limit in a narrow, winding tunnel and allegedly was hit by another car. She died ultimately because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt.

Diana would have still been alive and around had it not been for a series of poor decisions. She had an apartment for life in Kensington palace and was forced to have British protection whilst on British soil and with her children. The RF definitely wouldn’t have seen her off. Sarah Ferguson still lives with Prince Andrew at the Royal Lodge in Windsor despite being divorced from him for about 25 years. If she’s allowed that privilege, darn right the mother of the heir to the throne would be.

7. Idk what you mean about the RF trying to split H&M. It is true they tried to get him to slow down. That wasn’t to see her off. That was both for Meghan and for Harry. To give Meghan time to see if she actually wanted to marry into the RF, time to adjust and get her bearings. Harry otoh had experience of previous girlfriends deciding they didn’t want royal life and it appears he marched Meghan down the aisle PDQ in case she didn’t want to marry him after all either.

8. HMQ and the family showed Meghan great kindness. In breach of protocol HMQ included her in family Christmas celebrations at Balmoral even before they were married, the narrative at the time being the RF was the family Meghan never had. As a consequence, King Charles walked her down the aisle. The Queen was pictured a few times sitting and laughing with Meghan. I think she liked Meghan a lot. Charles gave her a pet nickname.

I am sure there were faults on both ‘sides’. But there is no way the toxicity arisen in a short couple of years can be squarely and 100% laid at the door of the RF. I imagine the family is also deeply hurt.

Her name is Meghan. With an h btw and H&M do not in any shape or form anticipate having a normal life. Everything they are doing points to the opposite. A normal life would be living in obscurity like the majority of the 8 billion people on the planet.

@Tropicaliyes Meghan had no intention of continuing an acting career. It was a means to an end for her. She wants to be a famous philanthropist, or a politician, not a jobbing actress.

He’s the spitting image of Prince Philip when he was younger. No doubt who his father is.

I think he has mental health issues. Then he’s had the perfect storm of meeting someone who seems to revel in falling out with people and seeing themselves as a victim and he’s been swept along. I think he hates them now because he blames them for (in their eyes) not being nice enough to Meghan.

I think they both deeply hate their families - they're causing so much hurt and will never be able to turn back now. They obviously don't want to leave any doors open.

He’s supposed to be having therapy in the US. It’s not the sort of therapy, which brings closure by the sound of it. A pp mentioned not sending a letter to parents, who were giving her the silent treatment, the letter being a tool to ge the emotion out. This good therapy and different from this restitutional stuff (or whatever the official name is), which seems to be happening with Harry.

MM clearly doesn't like her family, but Harry seems to have turned on them since meeting MM. In all honesty I think she's been so extremely bad for Harry, I suspect she's turned him against his own family. I don't think she got what she was after from the RF, when they wanted half in half our, I suspect they were just going to serve themselves rather than queen and country, but Queenie saw straight through and said no chance. Now the bitterness is exuding out and it's really horrible to watch them try to destroy his family now.
I think it's all MMs doing and she's destroying Harry because she didn't get her way

He is in an abusive relationship, and is being controlled by someone who has alienated him from his friends and family. He is obliged to follow her lies and her ‘truth’. I won’t watch any of this work of fiction. Her problem is she did not get enough ££££££ out of the Royal Family!

ajandjjmum · Yesterday 19:11
Harry used to really love his family, especially his brother, SIL and their children. Something changed, and now he hates them all.

Do you remember, when they first got engaged, Samantha Markel said, "She's destroyed our family, and she'll destroy yours"? We thought "what a horrible jealous sister".....

The problem with therapy is that if it doesn't result in 'closure', for want of a better word, then it just becomes constant whinging, and seeking validation. He clearly hasn't reached closure and can't move on, I'm not sure that he wants to.

He is in an abusive relationship, and is being controlled by someone who has alienated him from his friends and family.

This is a good point. We’re told often enough that this could be the sign of an abusive and coercive relationship. I wander how differently this would be seen if Harry was Harriette. People joke he’s ‘under the thumb’ but it has all veered into the extreme.

Well, I don't think that was the case. He was besotted at first.

He’s supposed to be having therapy in the US. It’s not the sort of therapy, which brings closure by the sound of it.

Its the type of therapy rich Americans stupidly pay for - where’s the continuous hefty cash flow for the therapists if their clients actually find ‘closure?’

I think the title of his book says it all, really. I do have a feeling of empathy for his situation......the sense of resentment that he was considered simply in case Wills died.

I think it's strange that since he was involved with Megan who has a negative relationship with one family especially her father. Now Harry is going down the same route with his. I think their relationship isn't healthy & both have issues. The interview they on national TV was a dreadful move all because Megan thinks it's great to get everything out in open. Unfortunately this is were they made the ultimate mistake not Netflix 🙈.

I just think that things could of gone slightly different if they didn't do everything in open. Public is losing respect for them now & nothing they do and say is a superise now

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I absolutely agree with what you've said !

True.

Happened to a relative of mine.
She would have done all sorts for "luv". All sorts.
Thankfully he was the one that broke it off.

But I wouldnt trust her not to do the same thing all over again.

@Mummyoflittledragon He’s the spitting image of Prince Philip when he was younger. No doubt who his father is.

Philip's his dad?! No wonder he greased the brakes.

(I am joking, just for the avoidance of doubt.)

Oh, for goodness sake, not this old twaddle. Charles is Harry's father. Look at their faces now that Harry is older.
When Harry was a little boy I think it was reasonable for anyone to wonder if he was the child of the man Diana adored ( Yes, I adored him - but I was badly let down) (James Hewitt - remembered the name) because of how Harry looked, but not now his face is matured.

I was going to make similar comments.
I don't dislike H or M and think they've both had upbringings that have affected their mental wellbeing detrimentally.
I don't think they bring out the best in each other. In fact, I'd say the opposite and think they support each other in a way that makes things worse for them.
That Oprah interview really made things worse. Airing all their grievances and then being caught out in lies, has done them no favours.

Absolutely this.

Harry loved Kate and would have sung her praises to the new girlfriend.

Everything seemed mostly ok (on the surface at least) until they had Archie. That’s when we had all the odd business about saying Meghan was in labour when she wasn’t (or it was something along those lines, wasn’t it?) and lots of fuss about titles and pictures, and then everything seemed to go sour quite quickly.

Having a child can really cause past trauma to resurface - things you think you’ve dealt with and are fine with suddenly come rushing back, and when you combine that with all the strangeness of suddenly becoming a parent, which is a very different and new way to live, it can be quite overwhelming. And Harry certainly has enough trauma for anyone in his past, and Meghan doesn’t seem to have had an easy family life either. And then things seem to have escalated wildly out of control. Even if they wanted to go back, how can they? (I don’t think they do, but hypothetically). They’ve burned their bridges thoroughly and all they can really do now is double down, because their royal connection is their USP. Without that, they don’t seem to have an awful lot to work with.

I think they are both quite damaged people tbh. And they had the misfortune to land in - in Harry’s case to be born into - a very damaging system (ie the royal family). It’s all very sad.

I feel a little sick even watching the circus from the outside. No idea how it must feel being part of the story. This must be damaging then even more. Even I am now getting upset watching it all. Just stop now Harry.

I’m never going to pick fault with anyone’s choice about how/when to announce their labour/birth, but that goes double for someone with the press camped out outside their vagina waiting for the announcement. The Royal Family tradition of blow-drying and lipsticking exhausted, bleeding women and wheeling them out to the press within hours is gross and archaic; if H&M wanted to buy themselves some time with PR trickery, fair enough.

I'm no Diana fan but FFS!