Does Harry dislike his family?

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Just with the Oprah interview, this new Netflix thing and then his book that is coming out soon.

Anyone would think he dislikes his own family. What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

You could put any other Windsor family member's name in the thread title and the answer would be a resounding yes. Charles attacked his parents, Camilla Tominty tweeted her thanks to Kate Middleton's mother for feeding her stories about Meghan Markle, crazy articles were released about Meghan and Harry to bury far more newsworthy revelations about William and Andrew. And so it goes on, but mainly with Meghan and Harry the scapegoats to hide everyone else's bad behaviour. Who'd have thought the Buck House PR team could finally be effective? They must be laughing at us all.

I think Harry's wife has helped him understand that there is an awful lot of money to be made out of hate.

Harry is not a well man. Harry I think would be happy living a rich man's normal life in private. Harry's wife wants the fame.

The only way to make her happy is to sell his soul and go up against his brother.

There's only so much dirt you can sell and how long they will be relevant.

I suspect(hope) in 10 years time they will be non entities.

Exactly this, they have sold everything they have. With no direct contact with the source of all of their stories anymore, they are soon to become old news.

Very short sighted of them to spill all so soon. Now they will need to go out and make money through other means which hasn't been very successful for them thus far.

Can you please share with us the tweet where Camilla Tominey thanks Carole Middleton? Need to see the context.

Camilla Tominty tweeted her thanks to Kate Middleton's mother for feeding her stories about Meghan Markle

where is this tweet? If it exists I’m amazed it wasn’t headline news.

I cannot imagine that Carole Middleton would feed anyone stories .

Totally agree! That’s why I’m asking for proof of the accusation, I expect I will be waiting quite some time!

Sounds like it’s all bollocks.

Bet Uncle Gary would, though.

Hollywood types and the uber rich in all circles do NOT want publicity either AT ALL or only if it is extremely tightly controlled. With Harry and Meghan showing they are willing to throw one of the most prestigious institutions in the world, which also happens to be his family, under the bus for the right price, clearly no one is safe.

Their invites to glam events have rapidly dried up since they left the Royal Family. Their greatest status value was by being in the bosom of the Royal Family. Moral standing is one of the power values all of us can acquire, that’s why famous people are fastidious about protecting their image. Harry and Meghan have actually made their own brand extremely controversial and I am in the US so I am referring to the USA. Their controversy will keep a lot of sponsors, brands and truly famous away. Of course there are always people wanting publicity, but they might not be of the caliber H & M were anticipating.

Megs podcast has a lukewarm reception over here, the general consensus was it was not original and was boring.

I just don’t think these two have the star power they think they have. Harry’s image was carefully crafted over many years by the palace PR machine. Since he’s been on his own, he hasn’t come across as offering anything unique to the world. Meghan may have left the family way too soon if she wanted the cachet of royalty to stick to her.

In the US I just don’t understand what they think they are offering? They can’t make a career out of “woe is me”. I don’t think either of them are as cutting edge or original as they seem to think they are. No one wants to be lectured at by the rich either. They may end up over-exposing themselves so that people in the US are tired of them. They are definitely not adored over here, as no one really knows Harry, and Meghan was unknown by most people before she got married.

The truly famous and brands looking for people to sponsor don’t want controversy and drama, they are creating a very strange image for themselves.

Diana would be mortified at the whole show I believe. She would never want those boys at war.

I think if H and M kept out of the public this would have died down by now. I mean it must be draining everyone speaking negatively about you constantly. They have their own family now and I do think it's time they learned normal families which is what they are don't get along either. You part ways and live your life because you cannot force others to agree or see your point of view even if you are correct!

I read that article Meghan did, years ago, in Elle Magazine, I think, when she was starring in Suits, and she wrote about how lovely her dad was when she was growing up and how he helped her to find her voice and to be a principled young woman and an intelligent one. He sounds such a lovely supportive father, the way she described him then. There was the anecdote about the family of dolls, and how he, or maybe he and Doria, bought two sets to mix them up and make a white dad and a black mom and one child of each - as she describes it, very eloquently and in a beautiful heartfelt way. And the anecdote she tells of Thomas telling her, when she was a child to draw her own box, if she didn't like the choices being offered her.

She was moved by that and seems so sensitive. Why couldn't she have stayed like that, instead of becoming filled with resentment and hateful recrimination? Couldn't she have seen Charles as another kind 'dad' figure walking her down the aisle, and have judged people by their intentions, not their mistakes. What a shame she didn't keep that: 'I'm strong enough to best the haters gracefully ' stance.

Haaaaa. What a shame. So much to regret.

Is there any relationship between Harry and Diana’s side of the family? I’m not massively into the royal family but wondered if he’d turned against them too.

Have Dianas family also been leading a briefing campaign against Harry in the right wing press ?

It’s obvious what happened. Marrying Megan and all the press attention totally retriggered his trauma around his mother dying, as a result of being in the family. And now he’s acting out all that trauma.

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All of this. It’s so good to hear such an empathetic post. The bile directed at Harry is awful to read - such a lack of understanding from posters.

so sorry for your own loss.

Not sure about current situation however it was reported that Harry had suggested to the Spencers that MM was like Diana and they disagreed .

It is very difficult to make generalisations about experiences and attitudes, down the years and over the generations. But since Prince Charles and his parents and grandparents will be coming in for much criticism, it is worth remembering and reflecting on their situation.

Royals are more likely to be victims of attempted assassination or kidnap than less high profile people. Lord Mountbatten was assassinated; Charles was shot at; I think Princess Anne was the intended victim once of some sort of attack or kidnap attempt. They live with the threat of death and are coached from childhood to be aware, vigilant to danger and ready for an instruction from their security team to do something or other. Even President s on other countries face assassination attempts - some which result in death. The death of Diana was in part a product of these people's famous lives: it's suggested she was evading the paparazzi. The press, again, are part of the royal reality and experience. It also wasn't long before Charles' coming of age that war ended. That was a time of immense loss of life. It was part of the Royals and the collective experience, in the 20th Century middle and later decades .

I think you have to make an allowance for how the Royals-proper view sudden death, like Diana's. It could be that they are conditioned to accept and keep going. They believed in their destiny. They thought that was part of lot. Quite a lot of English monarch's and family members, going back far enough, have been murdered or executed. I don't think Royals are brought up to believe that personal feelings are important, or that death of Diana's kind is not fair. It is the down side of being Royal. . Charles seems sensitive and maybe would have liked to indulge his own emotions more than he could.

Yes I’m sick of hearing this about William.

One issue that often comes up is who was responsible for Harry walking behind Diana's coffin. I thought (correct me if I'm wrong) that Harry said at one time that he was glad he did it, but later said he wasn't. Another report I read was that Harry wanted to do it at the time. Yet another was that Prince Philip made them do it, saying he would walk with them, while another said that Philip didn't want them to do it, but Tony Blair/his aides did, or that Philip only walked with them because otherwise Blair would have made them walk alone. Is there any clarity about whether Harry and William were coerced, and if so, by whom?Of course, they could have wanted to at the time, but later regretted it. It would alter my view of the royal family in this a lot if they pressured Harry and William to do it and put duty before their own feelings.

Similarly, there is little consensus over whether Harry left the army because he hadn't got enough qualifications, or wouldn't take an exam/desk job, or had to leave because of publicity. It seems unfair to judge either way when there are so many conflicting accounts.

What has actually happened for him to turn on them?

I think he heard the word 'no' for the first time ever in his 'yes ,sir' life.

I saw this tweet just now and I was thinking when H was young, free and single, he probably didn’t analyse his role or position within the family. M came along and didn’t like being lower in the pecking order and the restraints it placed. Not understanding the hierarchy, being an American, she took it personally and was able to convince H that the family is against her. Just a theory.

The hierarchy comment is genuinely hilarious.