Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Member of Household resigns

1000 replies

myrtleWilson · 30/11/2022 12:42

Awful story just broken on twitter about horrendous racist questioning from Lady Hussey to Ngozi Fulani from Sister Space at yesterdays VAWG event.

Lady Hussey has resigned.

[Edited by MNHQ to correct typo at OP's request]

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
LadyKenya · 30/11/2022 14:44

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/11/2022 14:41

But they would have let it go on and on and on wouldn't they ? it just needed one person to complain to the media and they jumped. I would still like to hear both sides of the story though.. just to be fair like......

Hmm your language is very telling.

Roundandnour · 30/11/2022 14:45

More surprised that the Palace has confirmed it.
The institution has been racist for decades. But of course it was always credited as gaffs. Just look at the shit Philip used to coke
out with

a1poshpaws · 30/11/2022 14:45

SalviaOfficinalis · 30/11/2022 13:34

It’s excellent that it’s front page news.

Horrendous that things like this (and much worse obviously) are still going on. But it’s a step forward that it’s being publicised and condemned instead of people being expected to put up with it quietly.

@SalviaOfficinalis 100% agree with you.

TheTantrumoftheToddlerIsThere · 30/11/2022 14:46

So the latest update is that Buckingham
Palace state they have have reached out to her; but Ms Fulani claims she has yet to hear from anyone about the matter…

3peassuit · 30/11/2022 14:48

Just awful and embarrassing. That poor woman did well to keep her composure after such insulting questions.

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/11/2022 14:48

@LadyKenya · Today 14:44
ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · Today 14:41
But they would have let it go on and on and on wouldn't they ? it just needed one person to complain to the media and they jumped. I would still like to hear both sides of the story though.. just to be fair like......
Hmm your language is very telling.

No. You are very wrong. How do you know I am telling. You do not know where I am from :)

Talia99 · 30/11/2022 14:48

Played by Haydn Gwynne in the Crown and supposed to have been one of the Queen’s closest friends. Frankly, she’s 84 and should have been quietly retired as soon as the Queen passed away.

siyanasaysrelax · 30/11/2022 14:49

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 14:44

Why didn't she just say 'I'm British but my parents came here in the 50s' and state the country in the first place . What is racist about asking about people's heritage?

If she was told she was British and her family's heritage was irrelevant that would have been racist surely.

Nothing racist about asking people's heritage. But that wasn't what she asked. She asked where are YOU from? And insisted that she couldn't possibly be British because she was black (no, where are you REALLY from).

I get this all the time, and I know when it is coming from a place of genuine curiosity (to which I answer, I was born here but my parents are from X) and when it is coming from a place of 'you are brown therefore you don't belong here'. The exchange was definitely of the latter variety

AnnunciataZ · 30/11/2022 14:49

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 14:44

Why didn't she just say 'I'm British but my parents came here in the 50s' and state the country in the first place . What is racist about asking about people's heritage?

If she was told she was British and her family's heritage was irrelevant that would have been racist surely.

Why should she though? Just saying "I'm British" should be enough, and it's really no one's business where her parents come from. She didn't owe Lady Susan an explanation.

ShirleyPhallus · 30/11/2022 14:49

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 14:44

Why didn't she just say 'I'm British but my parents came here in the 50s' and state the country in the first place . What is racist about asking about people's heritage?

If she was told she was British and her family's heritage was irrelevant that would have been racist surely.

If someone asks a white person where they’re from they never say “Norwich, but my parents are from Norway and Scotland originally”. asking this just highlights that they’ve noticed you’re black and so you can’t possibly be British.

if the conversation was naturally leaning towards ancestry and she’d said “what’s your heritage” or similar then it’s part of a natural conversation but done this way, it’s pointing out that you’re “different”

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/11/2022 14:52

I just dislike the bandwagon stuff on here,. It irritates. As soon as something like this is raised, they all pile on shouting racist. It's not just one perpetrator racist though is it? It's the whole shebang having their hand forced.
That's why I would like to hear both sides of a story before I jump in

Swiminanglesey · 30/11/2022 14:52

Prefacing this with the fact I obviously know it’s not right at all, before I’m flamed 🙄

my lovely 83 year old nan (same age) would say much the same and be profoundly distressed at ‘getting it wrong’. So much has changed (for the better) in the last ten years that she can’t keep up.

is the expectation that she’s employed (albeit in a voluntary capacity) by the royal family a mitigation against her age, generation etc?

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 14:54

Why is asking about people's heritage racist? NF had stated she was British, fine, SH wasn't saying 'no no you can't be', she was asking where her family had originated.

Anyway she has resigned as it does seem like she was hectoring her if the transcript is accurate and good the Palace has shown zero tolerance to ambiguous language.

siyanasaysrelax · 30/11/2022 14:54

Swiminanglesey · 30/11/2022 14:52

Prefacing this with the fact I obviously know it’s not right at all, before I’m flamed 🙄

my lovely 83 year old nan (same age) would say much the same and be profoundly distressed at ‘getting it wrong’. So much has changed (for the better) in the last ten years that she can’t keep up.

is the expectation that she’s employed (albeit in a voluntary capacity) by the royal family a mitigation against her age, generation etc?

but I'm sure your nan asks in a kind, genuine way, out of curiosity. believe me POC can tell the difference, and I would never think badly of someone due to generational differences, as it's coming from a genuine and good place.

The exchange quoted was definitely not coming from a genuine or curious place, it was an aggressive cross examination based on the appearance of the person being questioned.

Novella4 · 30/11/2022 14:55

Of course the royals are rascist .

Didn't one of them wear a blackamoor broach to a dinner Meghan was attending ?
They don't even try to hide it

It will be all 'reflection' and 'sorrow ' and the royalists will lap it up . That's ok then ...

BooksAreSaferThanPeople · 30/11/2022 14:55

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/11/2022 14:52

I just dislike the bandwagon stuff on here,. It irritates. As soon as something like this is raised, they all pile on shouting racist. It's not just one perpetrator racist though is it? It's the whole shebang having their hand forced.
That's why I would like to hear both sides of a story before I jump in

You're right. How dare all these posters condemn an incident of obvious racism that has been corroborated by a witness. Hmm

siyanasaysrelax · 30/11/2022 14:55

Again, asking about people's heritage is NOT racist. Cross examining someone and disregarding/not listening to their answers most definitely is.

Sadbeigechildren · 30/11/2022 14:55

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 14:44

Why didn't she just say 'I'm British but my parents came here in the 50s' and state the country in the first place . What is racist about asking about people's heritage?

If she was told she was British and her family's heritage was irrelevant that would have been racist surely.

There's no need for her to add 'but' after 'I'm British' any more than if you were asked. If her family had originally come from Denmark, she wouldn't have had to share that information or answer questions about where she was really from because we wouldn't know. Why should she have to subscribe to the idea that she must be from somewhere else because of the colour of her skin. White people don't have the corner on Britain.

Justasec321 · 30/11/2022 14:56

LookingAtYou · 30/11/2022 14:44

Why didn't she just say 'I'm British but my parents came here in the 50s' and state the country in the first place . What is racist about asking about people's heritage?

If she was told she was British and her family's heritage was irrelevant that would have been racist surely.

I am sure the woman in question, being from Hackney, sounds like she is from Britian.

With that in mind,the lady needs to ask every other person in the room who sounds like they are from Britian the same question.

Otherwise skin colour is driving the line of questioning.

Geddit??

Novella4 · 30/11/2022 14:56

@siyanasaysrelax
Yes it was the persistence of the questioning .

It was designed to other the person

itsnotmeitisactuallyyou · 30/11/2022 14:56

RaRaRaspoutine · 30/11/2022 13:08

The way she moved her hair out of the way!! Like Fulani is public property to be manhandled!! I would have slapped her hand.

i would have too

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/11/2022 14:57

@BooksAreSaferThanPeople · Today 14:55
ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · Today 14:52
I just dislike the bandwagon stuff on here,. It irritates. As soon as something like this is raised, they all pile on shouting racist. It's not just one perpetrator racist though is it? It's the whole shebang having their hand forced.
That's why I would like to hear both sides of a story before I jump in
You're right. How dare all these posters condemn an incident of obvious racism that has been corroborated by a witness. Hmm

You are not listening. That's not what I said at all

GythaOggsDaughterInLaw · 30/11/2022 14:57

Dear me

LadyKenya · 30/11/2022 14:57

Novella4 · 30/11/2022 14:55

Of course the royals are rascist .

Didn't one of them wear a blackamoor broach to a dinner Meghan was attending ?
They don't even try to hide it

It will be all 'reflection' and 'sorrow ' and the royalists will lap it up . That's ok then ...

Yes Princess Michael of Kent did. I suppose she wore it to welcome Meghan to the family, and make her feel at home.Hmm

Sadbeigechildren · 30/11/2022 14:57

Swiminanglesey · 30/11/2022 14:52

Prefacing this with the fact I obviously know it’s not right at all, before I’m flamed 🙄

my lovely 83 year old nan (same age) would say much the same and be profoundly distressed at ‘getting it wrong’. So much has changed (for the better) in the last ten years that she can’t keep up.

is the expectation that she’s employed (albeit in a voluntary capacity) by the royal family a mitigation against her age, generation etc?

I wondered that initially but (a) she really went to town with it and (b) she's in a position where there will have been the opportunity to learn from and upset people much more than your nan.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread