The Queen died from...in The Times today

[NotInMyBackYards]

In TT today, Dr Porter discusses what is in the latest biography of the Queen (by Giles B.)

Dr P seems to agree with GB that the Queen had bone cancer. He doesn't say so in so many words but he does bullet-point the signs (of which she appears to have had a number.)

I'm a Royalist (with some exceptions, of course) and feel we are being 'cheated' by (perhaps) having the reason for her death being concealed.
She was well loved and admired by millions.
Isn't the least we are owed an honest account?

I am sure everyone could see that she didn't simply die of 'old age' (in so much as anyone in their late 90s does, to a degree.) The pain she was suffering, the weight loss, the circulation problems evident in her calves (varicose ulcers for years) and her hands.

It's as if we are being taken for fools and I wonder how, legally, her dr is allowed to complete the death cert inaccurately?

My late father had 3 conditions listed on his DC, including dementia, but he'd had two other conditions (major organ deterioration) for many years as well.
Considering he was 95, then 'old age' may have covered it but it wasn't just that.

What is the point of the Palace not being honest?

Someone asked a government office - I'm not sure if I should link the question and answer though they came up under google so I don't see why not

Part of the answer from the gov office

The death of the sovereign has never been registered under the 
Registration Acts

But there are details from the death certificate published in a National Newspaper. So we know what it says. What else do you want to know?

Not a royalist. A republican who thinks the end of the monarchy is best served by guillotine. Still can’t get worked up about the Queen’s PUBLIC death certificate, showing her cause of death, not jibing with what Giles Brandreth and an axe-grinding Mumsnetter want it to say. You’ll do yourself a mischief worrying about it.

Also, Prince Philip died of old age and it says so on his death certificate. Sorry.

This an answer from a government official . As I have repeatedly said the crown has excluded themselves from the Act . Just as they exclude themselves from any other law they don't like the look of

Why they think their death cert needs to be secret was my questions days ago !

"Applications for Royal Births and Deaths (excluding the death of a 
Sovereign) will be treated in the same way as any other application. ie. 
the customer must state the full name as entered on the birth/death 
certificate and enough information to identify the entry. 
The death of the sovereign has never been registered under the 
Registration Acts. The distinction made between the sovereign and other 
members of the Royal Family takes us right back to the Births and Deaths 
Registration Act 1836. That Act provided for registration of births and 
deaths "of His Majesty's subjects in England" which meant that the 
sovereign was exempt but other members of the Royal Family were not.

@stuntbubbles

I agree the death cert is the cert least of it re royals picking choosing which laws they don't want to follow

It's just weird . It feeds whatever lingering mystique they have .
What am I saying !

There is zero mystique .
I agree it's not worth any more time

Being deliberately disingenuous is seeing the freely available death certificate and then claiming it is secret.

Being deliberately disingenuous is disagreeing with what is written on it and choosing to believe what GB said on his book instead, because he knows better.

Being infantile is putting lols on posts just because others are stating their view. And also saying, I’ll spell it out or do you follow or saying only a royalist would think x, y or z. When actually most are actually managing to see the secret certificate on Google.

And what is really sad is that some continue to scream they don’t care how she died yet refuse to accept what is written on the widely available ‘secret/withheld/unavailable to the public’ certificate"

Some want to drown themselves in froth.

It is fast becoming a spectator sport on here.

It is a summary death certificate.

🏅

Just to clear one thing up, myeloma in old people can be still aggressive and extremely painful. That’s just the damage caused to the bones. There are also the constant infections and the fatigue. We have lost two family members to it and a third is doing OK so far, four and a half years in, but was lucky to be diagnosed early. Still had to have a lot of chemo and radiotherapy plus kyphoplasty. Not fun in your eighties. She had to have fentanyl patches, that’s the level of pain, and she has survived two other kinds of cancer and is pretty tough.

Abra1t 💐

That's how old age gets people though. Lots of bits start going wrong and breaking down and then one big thing goes wrong and kills them.

Like all 'old age' deaths could be looked at further and shown to be - heart attack, pulmonary embolism etc.