The Queen died from...in The Times today

[NotInMyBackYards]

In TT today, Dr Porter discusses what is in the latest biography of the Queen (by Giles B.)

Dr P seems to agree with GB that the Queen had bone cancer. He doesn't say so in so many words but he does bullet-point the signs (of which she appears to have had a number.)

I'm a Royalist (with some exceptions, of course) and feel we are being 'cheated' by (perhaps) having the reason for her death being concealed.
She was well loved and admired by millions.
Isn't the least we are owed an honest account?

I am sure everyone could see that she didn't simply die of 'old age' (in so much as anyone in their late 90s does, to a degree.) The pain she was suffering, the weight loss, the circulation problems evident in her calves (varicose ulcers for years) and her hands.

It's as if we are being taken for fools and I wonder how, legally, her dr is allowed to complete the death cert inaccurately?

My late father had 3 conditions listed on his DC, including dementia, but he'd had two other conditions (major organ deterioration) for many years as well.
Considering he was 95, then 'old age' may have covered it but it wasn't just that.

What is the point of the Palace not being honest?

Because it’s her private medical information and we are not owed the gory details of precisely how a woman in her 90s died. Why do we need to know?

Dignity? Her life may have been public property but does her death really need to be too?

You are not being 'cheated'. She was allowed a personal life

let the lady rest in peace (I’m not a royalist by the way)

At the risk of being flamed here, she lived and died in the public eye. I think she deserves some degree of privacy. I don't feel she owed ME more. She already gave everything.

It’s been reported over the last umpteen weeks that the Queen was suffering from cancer before she passed away.
Im not sure why you think anyone (bar her family) have a ‘right’ to that personal information

Why do you need to know so badly? She was old. Like all old people, she came to the end of her life. That's all.

I want to know too - how is the doctor signing off the death certificate allowed to lie?

I don't understand why they are allowed to lie on a death certificate. Surely it's a legal document. And for the privacy thing, fair enough whilst she's alive but now she's dead...

What a ghoul you sound.
I cant stand the royal family, but the queen had the right to some privacy and dignity.

I said this on a previous thread - why does the exact cause of the Queen's death matter? It makes absolutely no difference to anything. No one is suggesting she was murdered.

100% agree.

Very many people that age have cancer, but they don't die from it.

Privacy and dignity. My parent died of the same cancer I’ve seen being touted as the Queen’s cause of death and it was fucking horrific and godawful and there are no words for the particular destruction it causes; simply no reason anyone needs to know and be voyeuristic over it. I’m a republican so no fan of the monarchy the institution but can’t someone old and in pain just be allowed to die without it being raked over the coals? For what end?

How will your life, or indeed anyone's life, be different if you know the queen died of bone cancer rather than old age?

I'm not a royal fan but honestly what business is it of anyone's, she wasn't public property, she doesn't owe you or anyone anything (well maybe a bit of tax money she took for her 100 or so houses) but not the details in her medical records. She was very old, you die when you get very old.

She was well loved and admired by millions.
Isn't the least we are owed an honest account?

Weird non sequitur. You’re owed information because she was admired and loved?

I agree. It'd consign the entire lot to history, but have some decency and stop pouring over stuff that is none of your dammed business. People outside her family are owed nothing.

It's as if we are being taken for fools

How? it was obvious that she had lost a lot of weight, was having mobility problems and was having to conserve her energy and rest a lot, so it wasn't a huge leap that old age wasn't the only thing she was suffering from.

She was still on her feet two days before she died so I find it very improbable that she deteriorated and died so quickly from any form of cancer .
I think that her privacy has been closely and quite rightly guarded because her death was caused by possibly a fall which caused a head injury or another sudden medical event .
That was myself and my colleagues suspicion but we will never know ,and how it should be .

Why do people claim that there were lies on the death certificate? The complete document hasn't been published.

Bloody hell she was 96. No-one lives forever. Many very elderly people who die have cancer in some form but why does it matter?

And Gyles Brandreth is a fucking snake for trying to earn money from his 'supposed' friendship with the Queen.

‘Taken for a fool’ because someone doesn’t want to release their mother’s private medical information that you for some reason feel entitled to?

I agree, fall or a stroke. HM lived her life in public, at least allow what she died of to be private.

And Gyles Brandreth is a fucking snake for trying to earn money from his 'supposed' friendship with the Queen

It's a race between Brandreth and Titchmarsh as to which is arse licker in chief. I'd love to know the RF side of these 'close friendships.'