Harry, Meghan and Netflix are go

[CathyorClaire]

The long awaited documentray is hitting the screen on December 8th:

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-prince-harry-meghan-markles-28607547

What with the award in a few days and the book in January they're ramping up the game.

Meghan’s quote is certainly revealing - she clearly thinks so very highly of herself.

I don't think it's that. It's just that many of her speeches include quotes from other people that she presents as her own. So quoting people is part of her baseline communication.

"The person who has made these claims about MM threats has an agenda and an axe to grind and is weaponising race to do this!"

Call me cynical, but also maybe trying to hawk around a book deal, lets see.

I didn't see his interview and I suspect his comment about MM threats were a small soundbite of his full interview , hopefully now that he is retired from top management in the Met,, he can focus more on exposing the tolerance for proven racism, misogny, and incompetence on the ground in the Met,

I’m white but married into a family that isn’t, they don’t like Meghan & Harry for exactly the same reasons as I do! ( airing your family grievances on the international stage and continuing to moan about them- who in their right mind does that about their family? 🫣moaning about your family on here on an anonymous forum is ok, going on Oprah is not ok ) but what some of you are saying is because I’m white I'm racist and I don’t like her because she’s black, what about my in laws? Are they racist too even though they aren’t white or is ok for them to not like them ?
Any race can be awful to their family, it’s not colour specific

We all thought Meghan was a much needed breath of fresh air when she joined the royal family now we wish they would live that quiet life they wanted

He said that there were threats. He never said that there were threats exclusively against her. Every member of the RF receives threats. Even minor politicians whom you have never heard of receive threats. If she never experienced it before, it is because she was that far down the career ladder of acting that nobody even noticed her.

He never described the nature of the threats so we do not know whether they relate to racism or to her publicized and directly witnessed behaviour.

Is that what we are doing now? Every time someone points out racism, they are suspected of 'flogging books' etc. Not enough to demand 'proof' - like black people are supposed to walk around recording everything.

And yes, he does address other things. This was on last night on C4

www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-meghan-markle-faced-credible-threats-to-her-life-says-former-head-of-counter-terrorism

Do you have no knowledge or appreciation for poetry?

What’s the word salad? What does word salad even mean? Why do some of you make this country appear so idiotic with your unjustified and insane hatred towards this woman.

It genuinely only makes one party look bad and it’s not Meghan. That said, the hate has worked in Meghan’s favour. A simple example, her name is finding its way in popular music and TV programmes, in a positive way and she is now the embodiment of resilience, bravery and doing your own thing despite the hate.

That Netflix documentary; no one truly knows what it is about. The vast majority of what is out there is speculation by those who hate Meghan Markle. The stories contradict themselves about content, who, why, what and when. Harry and Meghan have proved that outside of the Palace walls, they have people they can trust to not leak information. That means the UK media is always wrong footed and made to look stupid as their Harry-and-Meghan-hating speculations and lies are exposed.

"Hi Patrisse, could use some advice about a workplace incident?"
"Sorry, we are all busy having a pile-on on a website called MN" 😆

Using your proximity to people who are not white to justify your racism?

A white personal and a black person can dislike another black person and be motivated by two very different things.

It is highly likely that not all white and all black people like Meghan Markle. The vast majority may not even care. None of that means you may not be driven by racism in your dislike.

Given that significant number of Meghan haters who pretend to be black on Twitter, for example, I’m always sceptical by those who make it a point to shout that they are either black, mixed-race or married to the same before they announce their dislike for Meghan. Seriously why do you feel the need to talk about what your race is or your association / proximity to black people? Very suss.

who are now declaring they will watch her documentary, presumably just to come to Mumsnet to sneer some more.

That's as valid a reason as any for watching it.

I shall be watching if the thing ever does land mainly because the royals have form for shooting themselves in the foot with such programmes and I don't want to miss it if they do.

So people who claim to be black on Twitter are liars are they? Oh and I’m a racist because I don’t like Meghan but my family who are black who dislike her for the exactly same reason are fine

and I’m also justifying being racist because I claim to be married to a non white man

Do you know how mental that sounds! My favourite actor happens to be black because he’s great at what he does, does that mean I’m justifying racism because I’m liking a black actor by proving I’m not !

I've a few questions if anyone can be arsed to have a crack at answering them.

1. So is it known yet if the forthcoming Netflix documentary is a 'docuseries' or a one-off documentary?
2. Is the documentary ABOUT Harry and Meghan or BY Harry and Meghan?
3. Neil Basu talks of threats against Meghan (and 'the Royals') and that people had been prosecuted - would the public not normally have heard about court appearances like that? How could they have been hushed up, and by whom? Why hasn't Harry said anything? Where is Basu going with this, because in my head there's now more questions than answers tbh.
4. Is Andrew shitting himself over the Epstein connection, in a 'I might be next with the staged suicide' kind of way? He seems very jumpy and ashen just recently, after his public appearances around the queen's death and funeral had eased off, and he now has even more security demands. Or is it just high drama from a hideously entitled nasty piece of work after a row with Charles?
5. Does anyone else really want to know why Harry doesn't comment on ghastly Uncle Andrew when he speaks up about social justice, women & girls, etc? And/or can we look forward to this in future film/audio/book form soon? Or will he stay forever selectively silent?

They really are collectively the most appalling, dysfunctional, fascinating and tiresome 'dynasty'. Oh, and rich. Very very rich.

They have been paid tens of millions for boring us to death. I'll eat my hat if there's anything truly new in the docuseries or the book Spare. It's just their side. And that's all we've heard.
More of the same. When will it be done.

@AutumnCrow it's about them, they had cameras filming them. Meghan said this, when talking about the director:

"It's nice to be able to trust someone with our story — a seasoned director whose work I've long admired — even if it means it may not be the way we would have told it. But that's not why we're telling it. We're trusting our story to someone else, and that means it will go through their lens."

But I don't think Netflix have actually confirmed the release date, or whether it's a one off or a series.

Didn't mean to cross out that part, I copied the quote from an article that had used "-" around that section.

Stop the venomous nastiness? You're really saying that with a straight face?

Yes I like poetry probably not the kind Meghan likes Are you ok? Do you know Meghan personally ? That was a very long defense for someone you don't actually know.

Netflix have done a great job on keeping the content secret (unless they have yet to finalise it).

Except she didn't say that, did she? And her achievements are impressive in their own right. She wouldn't have been in a position to meet, let alone marry, Prince Harry without them, and as for using her platform - good for her. I don't see her 'telling the world how amazing she is' but her podcast does highlight her intelligence an charisma, rather in contrast to other members of the family she married into.

Oh and she hasn't set out to smear them at every opportunity. Getting a bit carried away there?

It's only a smear if it's not true, and you have no idea what she 'set out' to do but if she wanted to smear them at every opportunity, she's not been very committed to her goal.

Thanks, @WeWereInParis.

So the Netflix documentary is quite a risky venture for all parties? And of course the bigger risk is going to sit with the less powerful party and in this case it's the Sussexes as it doesn't sound like they have retained editorial control. Netflix can go either way with the footage they have now: hagiography, or hatchet job.

I do think the royal family were foolish in (choosing words very carefully here) not working harder to prevent the causation of a situation where Harry felt that this kind of 'deal' with a company like Netflix was a necessary or appropriate option. Aside from his royal status, he has nothing to sell except emotion - and access to his marriage. I think poorly of him for that.

She basically got to that position because her dad won the state lottery and invested wisely in her education and by marrying well twice. It is not a great mystery. If it was not for the shit run of wisdom memes freely available to borrow from online and singular interest organizations well represented on this thread who push tirelessly to convince others that she is the patron saint of everything then there would be nothing. Absolutely nothing at all.

If I were the subject of a documentary I'd find that extremely unnerving.

So the Netflix documentary is quite a risky venture for all parties? And of course the bigger risk is going to sit with the less powerful party and in this case it's the Sussexes as it doesn't sound like they have retained editorial control. Netflix can go either way with the footage they have now: hagiography, or hatchet job.

And we all know which is more likely to bring the viewers in. Which is all Netflix care about.

I really can't see how the Sussexes could possibly distance themselves from this if they don't like it.

No idea what 'singular interest organisations' you're talking about but what is your point with the rest of this post? That she had a good education and supposedly has done absolutely nothing with it except marry 'well', twice? What kind of misogynistic bullshit is that?? Nobody is calling her the Patron Saint of anything but yes she does have achievements, even if you want to attribute them all to the men in her life.