Rumour that the King won't make Edward Duke of Edinburgh

[PrincessJanet]

Allegedly as part of the King's desire for a slimmed down monarchy.

I would have thought that the Royal Family could really do with the Wessexes as working royals. If they slim down so far in a few years they'll soon beonly the Cambridges available.

But James would inherit the title and it's not clear if he would want to be a working royal as he's only 14.

Should I care?

Should I care?

Well, I guess you must do if you're on the The Royal Family board, cos this is the kind of thing we post about here

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But James would inherit the title and it's not clear if he would want to be a working royal as he's only 14.

Would you say a bit more? All aristocrats inherit their title, no matter what work or role they choose to do.

No he wouldn't. It would revert to the crown, just like it did when Prince Philip died.

I didn't think the DoE title was an inherited one but rather granted so James would be in the clear?!?!

A random and unhelpful observation here but I often see comments like 'well you're reading x and y board so you must be interested in the subject'

I personally never go into a particular part of the forum, I just look at 'active' and will dip into threads that catch my eye.

This one caught my eye but I dont have a huge interest in the royal family at all.

And in fact I got it all muddled and thought it was talking about William

I don’t think it did revert to the crown
on prince Philips death. It was inherited by Charles as the eldest son and when he became king it merged with the crown. That’s why the queen couldn’t just give it to Edward like she wanted to as it was rightfully Charles title. They needed to wait for him to be king so it could be recreated

So if he was to grant it to Edward the his son would be likely to inherit it

I didn't think the DoE title was an inherited one but rather granted so James would be in the clear?!?!

I'm not sure that's true. I thought it was inheritable like any other Dukedom?

I was under the impression DoE was the sovereign’s to gift as seen fit, so it needn’t impact Edward’s children

The right decision. The less royals the better really.

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I personally never go into a particular part of the forum, I just look at 'active' and will dip into threads that catch my eye.

At risk of derailing the thread, I too look at Active. If something looks of interest to me I click on it. If it still looks of interest to me I will post on it.
I don't think, "Hmm, I don't care about knitting or cats or stationery, I best make that point now I'm here".

Its inheritable like Kent, Cambridge, Sussex etc.

Charles has just asked for Anne and Edward to be Councillors of State... thats a clear sign they will be working.

The lack of announcement on this has been curious given how publicly it was known that it was the late Queen's wish. Apparently it's one reason why Edward was given an Earldom at the time of his marriage, and not a Dukedom.

It's 2022, Edward should just start identifying as DoE if he wants to.

It's not like that would be any less valid than the RF giving each other silly little titles.

I would feel flippin' aggrieved if I were Edward; it was his parents' express wish that he be given the title, documented on his wedding day. He fronts the D of E awards scheme, I think, having taken over from his father.

Andrew and Harry both remain royal dukes, having subtracted rather than added to the reputation of the monarchy. Edward and Sophie continue to work unassumingly, and - bar some issues in the very early days - have not put a foot wrong.

You're on fire today, @PrincessJanet

I think it's a pity as would have liked Edward to have it.

I agree @Mumsnut but ultimately we are entering a huge financial crisis and it's the right thing to minimise money spent and focus on non core royals. Edward and Sophie's missteps were quite significant I think but even if they weren't I still don't think the public will wear the size of the monarchy if it's not reduced.

Surely the thread title is a giveaway even if you don't know what board it's on.

I think Charles is being a bit short sighted here. In fifteen or twenty years time , if he is still alive there will be the current generation of working royals who will be in their eighties/ nineties. The York women will be in their fifties/ sixties. Then who? The Phillips children and the Tindall children are not likely to be interested, the Sussex kids are already out in the cold, I doubt the Cambridges will want their kids on the Royal treadmill apart from poor George - they have all seen what happens to the “spares” and will be madly encouraging their other two into other spheres. He should be nurturing Edwards kids like crazy as at this rate they are likely to be the only two of their generation who will be available for minor ribbon cutting and the less salubrious foreign tours.

I think it's a mistake not to give Edward the title - it was a written agreement from the Queen and the then Duke of Edinburgh - and seems a bit churlish, especially if the only reason is to prevent the title passing to James afterwards. Having the title doesn't mean he'll be a full-time royal.

The current version of the slimmed-down monarchy has quite a few elderly working royals in it and while I do think the slimming down is a good idea, they haven't left themselves any spare capacity just now.