Rumour that the King won't make Edward Duke of Edinburgh

[PrincessJanet]

Allegedly as part of the King's desire for a slimmed down monarchy.

I would have thought that the Royal Family could really do with the Wessexes as working royals. If they slim down so far in a few years they'll soon beonly the Cambridges available.

There's a wikipedia entry about royal dukedoms, but I'm not sure how accurate it is. Off the top of my head, ones that are traditional, but not in use are Cumberland, Clarence, Connaught, and Albany. These all have issues of one type or another that would make their use problematical, but the monarch can make any dukedom royal by giving it to an HRH or by sticking HRH in front of it.

They may not want Edinburgh to be “lost” as a royal dukedom as both Kent and Gloucester will be when they pass down.

There’s also scope for Camilla to be added as the Queen Mother was, but I think that’s doubtful to happen (don’t think she’d want it).

Camilla is already in the group, by law.

I think in the vein of ‘slimming down’ the Monarchy, Beatrice and Eugenie should stop using HRH and the title of Princess. It’s ridiculous that they do as none working Royals.
In the other hand, I think Edward should be granted the title of Duke of Edinburgh as it was the Queen and Prince Phillips wish that he be given it.

I also think it’s high time the Duke of Kent and the Gloucesters retired, who really wants to meet them, I have met one of them and it was completely underwhelming.

He's already Earl of Wessex - he doesn't need another title. DofE title should be mothballed.

Charles wants to avoid having anyone similar to the Kents and Gloucesters because he has seen that while they were important in the early years of the Queen's reign they became increasingly irrelevant and poor value.

That is why he was very clear that the York Princesses would not be working Royals and neither will the Wessex children.

Edward and Sophie are likely to be very busy when Charles and Anne age more so he won't want to sideline them. Hopefully they won't need to slow down until George is ready to take on royal duties.

The post was about William’s stand-ins should Charles die before his children are adults. Camilla won’t be part of that group anymore.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I agree that it is highly unlikely that Camilla would want to in that scenario.

😂😂😂😂 those two?

The notion that it was the Queen and DofE's wish is not really a compelling reason to grant the title. That was nearly 25 years ago. Things are very different now. Charles and his advisors have to focus on what is best to do now. It may well happen that this practice of giving out Dukedoms when a prince marries could stop altogether.

Edward and Sophie are likely to be very busy when Charles and Anne age more so he won't want to sideline them. Hopefully they won't need to slow down until George is ready to take on royal duties.

This makes me feel sorry for George. And whilst I get the point about not wanting any more Gloucesters and Kents, it's showing how quickly the royal family will shrink to William, Kate and a rather young George.

I suspect it's being held back for the coronation.

It seems only right to honour his parents wishes and pass the DOE title to Edward. When Andrew dies, will his title pass to his eldest daughter?

When Andrew dies, will his title pass to his eldest daughter?

No.

I don't think I realised until just I googled it just now how large the age gap is between Charles and Edward. Charles is my father's generation, and is of an age to be retired in almost all jobs, whilst Edward is close to my age. He is the obvious stand-in for William if Charles dies or develops serious health issues in the next ten years.

😂ha ha!

I live near Edinburgh and I'm wondering if we actually need a duke or can manage fine without one.

It's time to abolish all hereditary titles.

I think it's possible the Edinburgh dukedom will be conferred on Edward at about the time of the Coronation, or as a 60th birthday present. Whether he gets it or not, it doesn't change the number of working royals as he's got that gig already. And keeping the Wessexes in post until for as long as possible will make a great deal of difference to how long George gets before he has to start on duties

I expect it would be heritable in the same way as other royal creations, which means it would cease to be a royal dukedom after James.

Charlotte may well be a future Princess Royal, but I would not expect any hypothetical future husband to be ennobled at all, unless she intended to continue as a working royal, and then probably an Earl (following the Princess Margaret example)

It is uncertain who will be the next DofE. But it highly likely that he will be bald. 🙂


You and @Gingerkittykat are the only two with any sense on this thread

Apart from there being no such thing as a 'working' royal I think fewer pointless gongs, baubles and ribbons handed out from on high is a good thing.

Edward already benefits hugely from being a royal, living in a monstrous pile under very favourable leasing terms (like Andrew). He's still an Earl albeit with made up geography and I doubt he'll rock the gravy train whatever imagined slights big bro slides his way.

I live near Edinburgh and I'm wondering if we actually need a duke or can manage fine without one.

Don't be ridiculous. Next you'll be suggesting the hole country could survive without the hard working, self-sacrificing public service of the Monarchy.

I live in between a few areas of high tourism and nobody would ever visit our lakes, hills, stately homes, castles, heritage sites or leisure resorts without the existance of a Monarch who has no connection to any of them.

Next you'll be suggesting the hole country

That may be a freudian slip.

Maybe the King wants to give Harry the Duke of Edinburgh title.

(You can have more than one Dukedom, William is still Duke of Cambridge and Duke of Cornwall now i think.)

What does being a duke mean, in real terms? Do they get paid extra? More houses? Otherwise, why would Edward be pissed off if he doesn’t get it?