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Prince Harry's Memoir: A World Publishing Phenomenon

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 27/10/2022 12:41

There will likely be several bashing threads on Harry's memoir before it is published, but I am interested in discussing with anyone who is interested in the very interesting marketing choices of the publishers and their approach.

English language editions of SPARE will be published on 10 January 2023 in EIGHT territories: the US, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and Canada.

The book will also be published in translation in 15 additional languages:

SPANISH Plaza & Janés/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial
GERMAN Penguin Verlag/Penguin Random House Verlagsgruppe GmbH, PORTUGUESE BRAZIL Objetiva/Grupo Companhia das Letras
PORTUGUESE PORTUGAL Objectiva/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial, SIMPLIFIED CHINESE Penguin Random House China
DANISH Politikens Forlag
DUTCH Hollands Diep, an imprint of Overamstel
FINNISH Otava Publishing Company Ltd
FRENCH Éditions Fayard
GREEK Pedio Books
HUNGARIAN Corvina Kiadó
ITALIAN Mondadori,
POLISH Wydawnictwo Marginesy,
ROMANIAN Nemira Publishing House,
SWEDISH Albert Bonniers Förlag.

This is absolutely sensational as it means it will be simultaneously published in 23 territories on the same day.

There are not many books where simultaneous release occurs in different markets. From this, I would say that the book will more than earn its advance, just from the foreign sales alone.

They also chose a banger of a title as it puts focus on the troubling notion of the Spare in a system based on primogeniture, and one that imbues both intrinsic and extrinsic value based on a person's birth order.

Imagine growing up knowing that no matter how loved you may be, your constitutional role is ultimately to be the spare to the heir.

Can't wait to read it!

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Samcro · 13/11/2022 12:26

so a teacher was accused of cheating. so not PH.

Morestrangethings · 13/11/2022 12:33

ilyx · 13/11/2022 11:37

Blaming the woman, the wife, is a trope as old as time -biblical even. I’m so over blaming women for the ills of men.

Oh please. If it was a female Royal Family member like Eugene or Beartrice suddenly isolated from their entire family, the family their spouse happen to not be able to get along with you’d be claiming control/abuse. Stop being a naive. You’d have to be complete idiot to think that women can never be controlling or abusive. It’s actually embarrassing.

ODFOD.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/11/2022 12:36

The RF don't usually get officially blamed for things, Samcro
As so many examples show, tthat's what the whipping boys staff are for

Croque · 13/11/2022 12:49

😂Oh, the dissonance is comedy gold - cue the covert op mouthpieces from certain organizations due on this arvo 😂

milti · 13/11/2022 13:07

It will be interesting to see how well the book sells - the publisher must think it’s going to sell well. Netflix - I think this will do better as randomers will watch that as there’s no cost. I wonder what Netflix meant when they said the narratives were different in the tv show and the book.

themessygarden · 13/11/2022 13:10

Morestrangethings · 13/11/2022 12:06

But, the tribunal found no evidence of cheating.

although it found the teacher was unfairly dismissed from the school. Just not over any cheating.

The teacher had sneakily (maybe unlawfully) recorded Harry admitting he had maybe written 1 line at most. I suppose that might not be classed as cheating,

"Prince Harry's art teacher secretly taped a conversation with him to prove she was instructed to help him cheat in a school exam, it was claimed in a tribunal today.

The hearing listened to the recording of the prince saying he had only done a "tiny, tiny" bit of the coursework for his art A-level.

Sarah Forsyth, fighting a claim for unfair dismissal from Eton College, said she duped the young royal as a last resort after her complaints of harassment against another member of staff went ignored by the school.

An employment tribunal in Reading heard today the Prince was recorded by his teacher saying of his AS exam piece, submitted in 2002: "...tiny, tiny bit ... I did about a sentence of it."

Nigel Giffen QC, for Eton College, argued today that the "Harry issue" bore no relevance to the case and should be excluded from evidence."

milti · 13/11/2022 13:13

Maybe he managed to write his name at the top - he should get some credit for that surely 😂

milti · 13/11/2022 13:15

H

ilyx · 13/11/2022 13:16

Morestrangethings · 13/11/2022 12:33

ODFOD.

Absolutely no response to a valid point. Very sad.

Morestrangethings · 13/11/2022 13:27

Is anyone else getting notifications to say you have been quoted on a thread minutes ago only to find that the quote was actually from weeks ago?

AutumnCrow · 13/11/2022 14:40

milti · 10/11/2022 08:17

No not really but thanks for asking

I read that in a Jo Brand voice in my head Grin

Sigma33 · 13/11/2022 15:06

Roussette · 13/11/2022 10:17

Do tell me how someone who is son of the monarch can't be royal?

There was no need to make a statement either way - making the statement shows that it is important to him that people think of him as 'royal'.

Even though he criticises the system that designates people as 'royal' or 'not royal' - a system of bestowing importance on someone because of an accident of birth rather than anything to do with personal merit.

Which is why the personal merit or otherwise of the Duke and Duchess of York is irrelevant. They don't criticise the institution while also claiming the benefits. Personally I think the system and institution is ridiculous - but I think it is hypocritical to want the titles, and put out statements that you are still 'royal', while simultaneously criticising the system as 'unfair'.

But I realise you have too much invested in defending them to be able to admit that they are inconsistent in any way.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/11/2022 15:51

I'd never seen that bit about "A tiny, tiny bit - I did about a sentence of it", themessygarden, and since it says the tribunal listened to the recording it seems to be true
Amusing, though, to read that the QC for Eton College insisted the "Harry issue" wasn't relevant to the case and should be left out of the evidence

Of course I'm no lawyer to make that judgement and it's old news anyway, but what a coincidence that yet again they tried to keep something which might embarrass a RF member out of the public domain

milti · 13/11/2022 16:02

The clue is in the title HMCTS 😀

Roussette · 13/11/2022 17:33

She told the tribunal at Reading, Berkshire: "I assumed I had been asked to do this because Prince Harry was a weak student."

So your statement "he got a teacher to cheat for him" is incorrect.

Roussette · 13/11/2022 17:37

Which is why the personal merit or otherwise of the Duke and Duchess of York is irrelevant. They don't criticise the institution while also claiming the benefits

That incorrect too. Sarah wrote a while book about the Institution, how it treated her, the men in grey suits etc

She darent do anything like that now as she's on a gravy train and the institution and taxpayer keep her from bankruptcy

Sigma33 · 13/11/2022 18:11

Roussette · 13/11/2022 17:37

Which is why the personal merit or otherwise of the Duke and Duchess of York is irrelevant. They don't criticise the institution while also claiming the benefits

That incorrect too. Sarah wrote a while book about the Institution, how it treated her, the men in grey suits etc

She darent do anything like that now as she's on a gravy train and the institution and taxpayer keep her from bankruptcy

No doubt she realised that she had to choose between the gravy train and criticising the system.

Whereas H&M criticise the system and then complain about being 'cut off'...

Which, as I have said, is inconsistent and hypocritical.

Much as I hate to align myself with such an archaic system as the monarchy, I do agree you are either in or out. There's plenty to criticise, but don't criticise and then want to hang on to the funding and titles.

Roussette · 13/11/2022 18:33

What funding?

MaulPerton · 13/11/2022 19:00

Roussette · 13/11/2022 17:33

She told the tribunal at Reading, Berkshire: "I assumed I had been asked to do this because Prince Harry was a weak student."

So your statement "he got a teacher to cheat for him" is incorrect.

Roussette You are not doing him any favours. If a 19-year old thought that submitting a single sentence for an Advanced level qualification was the norm then that hardly paints him in a good light, does it? Where did he think the rest of his submission came from?

Anyway, as somebody said, it is old news, and I think we got onto the subject by another poster saying that he may be easily influenced. Only time will tell if this is the case but, like many, I have reservations about his book. It does not bode well at all.

Sigma33 · 13/11/2022 19:03

Roussette · 13/11/2022 18:33

What funding?

Complaining about his father 'cutting him off'.

Sigma33 · 13/11/2022 19:10

@Roussette And don't forget your wide eyed innocence about them being entitled to the titles..

which you now seem to be backing down from without acknowledging you are backing down from it.

Do you thing they should continue to use their titles given how badly they have been treated by the system? Given the system does not recognise personal merit, but accident of birth? Given how toxic the system is, by their own account? Wouldn't people who genuinely reject that system, including being the devalued as a 'spare', want to also reject the bizarre and anachronistic titles bestowed by that system?

Would not put out a press release in response to not using their HRH title embracing their rejection of that system, instead of stating that they continued to be 'royal' - whatever that means in a nation that rejected the concept of royalty over 200 years ago?

Blip · 13/11/2022 19:47

So Prince Harry cheated in his Art A level. Is anyone really thinking that he is blame free in this?

Roussette · 13/11/2022 20:00

Sigma33 · 13/11/2022 19:10

@Roussette And don't forget your wide eyed innocence about them being entitled to the titles..

which you now seem to be backing down from without acknowledging you are backing down from it.

Do you thing they should continue to use their titles given how badly they have been treated by the system? Given the system does not recognise personal merit, but accident of birth? Given how toxic the system is, by their own account? Wouldn't people who genuinely reject that system, including being the devalued as a 'spare', want to also reject the bizarre and anachronistic titles bestowed by that system?

Would not put out a press release in response to not using their HRH title embracing their rejection of that system, instead of stating that they continued to be 'royal' - whatever that means in a nation that rejected the concept of royalty over 200 years ago?

What?

I'm not backing down from anything thanks.

I'm glad they've got their titles and hope they keep them. Certainly whilst his Uncle's ex wife of 25 years routinely used her titles

Just jog on with your 'wide eyed innocennt' twaddle

Harry will always be royal by the fact he's the King's son.

Roussette · 13/11/2022 20:03

Routinely USES that should say. A book published just this year by Sarah, Duchess of York.
Another one due next year

AutumnCrow · 13/11/2022 20:04

Sigma33 · 13/11/2022 19:03

Complaining about his father 'cutting him off'.

Is that the cut of Duchy money?

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