Prince Harry's Memoir: A World Publishing Phenomenon

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

There will likely be several bashing threads on Harry's memoir before it is published, but I am interested in discussing with anyone who is interested in the very interesting marketing choices of the publishers and their approach.

English language editions of SPARE will be published on 10 January 2023 in EIGHT territories: the US, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and Canada.

The book will also be published in translation in 15 additional languages:

SPANISH Plaza & Janés/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial
GERMAN Penguin Verlag/Penguin Random House Verlagsgruppe GmbH, PORTUGUESE BRAZIL Objetiva/Grupo Companhia das Letras
PORTUGUESE PORTUGAL Objectiva/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial, SIMPLIFIED CHINESE Penguin Random House China
DANISH Politikens Forlag
DUTCH Hollands Diep, an imprint of Overamstel
FINNISH Otava Publishing Company Ltd
FRENCH Éditions Fayard
GREEK Pedio Books
HUNGARIAN Corvina Kiadó
ITALIAN Mondadori,
POLISH Wydawnictwo Marginesy,
ROMANIAN Nemira Publishing House,
SWEDISH Albert Bonniers Förlag.

This is absolutely sensational as it means it will be simultaneously published in 23 territories on the same day.

There are not many books where simultaneous release occurs in different markets. From this, I would say that the book will more than earn its advance, just from the foreign sales alone.

They also chose a banger of a title as it puts focus on the troubling notion of the Spare in a system based on primogeniture, and one that imbues both intrinsic and extrinsic value based on a person's birth order.

Imagine growing up knowing that no matter how loved you may be, your constitutional role is ultimately to be the spare to the heir.

Can't wait to read it!

No but I feel bad for him, I feel like he’s easily manipulated. His wife hates his family and is much more intelligent than he is, he’s become completely isolated from them since being married to her, and now he’s about to release this ridiculous book which there will be no coming back from.

and now he’s about to release this ridiculous book which there will be no coming back from.

We have no idea what is in the book. I do think a person who has had so much written about him very well might want to correct the incorrect and, probably often, made up stories he’s had to read about himself.

His wife hates his family and is much more intelligent than he is, he’s become completely isolated from them since being married to her

Blaming the woman, the wife, is a trope as old as time -biblical even. I’m so over blaming women for the ills of men.

😂😂unlike Mountbatten-Windsor, which trips off the tongue!

Well, given their statements about still being 'royal' when they had to drop the 'HRH', I very much doubt it will happen.

It's very odd - the whole construct of a monarchical system is that all status is invested in one person who happened to be born first to one particular set of parents. Fairness and equality doesn't come into it. So insisting on titles and that you are still 'royal' means you still want a system of unfairness and inequity, while complaining about the unfairness and inequity.

He's not insisting on anything unless you have proof of that otherwise?

He'has a title and uses it if he wants..no different to PA and SF which is even more odd for her given she uses it prolifically and she's been divorced from a member of the RF for over 25 years.

I know the answers to that will be....well, she hasn't disparaged the monarchy. She certainly has in a book about the institution when she divorced.

I thought I'd get that in quick before it's brought up 😂

For H&M to be stripped of titles or give them up would apply a whole heap of pressure on PA and SF, bit of a can of worms

I agree about the whole system being very odd, well put by you 😊

I see Dolly Parton has been awarded 100m by Jeff Bezos, to fund her imaginations library which provides books to schools and his courage and civility awards.

Dolly Parton has done so much for kids (1 in 10 books in school libraries has been provided by her charity.

a nice balance to some of the more negative charity stories

It's very odd - the whole construct of a monarchical system is that all status is invested in one person who happened to be born first to one particular set of parents. Fairness and equality doesn't come into it. So insisting on titles and that you are still 'royal' means you still want a system of unfairness and inequity, while complaining about the unfairness and inequity

This really is the crux of it. Harry and Meghan are more than happy with any aspects of the system that make them 'more important' than Joe Public (eg their titles) and seem to have unironically swallowed their own hype - and yet they take exception to the self-same system when it renders others (William, Kate, Prince George...) 'more important' than them.

Dolly is just wonderful. A real philanthropist and caring individual.

"and seem to have unironically swallowed their own hype - and yet they take exception to the self-same system when it renders others (William, Kate, Prince George...) 'more important' than them*

Where's that fact?

He got a teacher to cheat for him in one of his subjects. Not everyone is academic but few resort to these tactics.

its boring how posters keep calling him thick/dim and making stuff up with no proof about lds.
what is even worse is making lds an insult!
weird that the posters doing this think they are the clever ones.

Samcro He cheated in a public exam. A teacher got sacked. That is not an indication of being thick/dim, or having ids, but it is a really, really bad thing to do. He has done several really, really bad things that have all gone into making up an image of his persona that the public sees. It's not pleasant. I am bemused that anyone would 'support' this character just because they are anti-royal/pro Meghan's ethnicity. Those are not good grounds to be supportive of someone.

Well, they did put out a statement about still being 'royal' - which does seem like 'insisting' to me...

rtf and you will see what I am talking about.

"He got a teacher to cheat for him".
Prove it

Tell me me how he did that. Waiting

Exactly!

Do tell me how someone who is son of the monarch can't be royal?

Ms Forsyth told an employment tribunal, where she is claiming unfair dismissal, that the evening before a moderator was due at the school to look at the students' AS-level work - which counts towards their A-level grade - she was asked by the head of art, Ian Burke, to prepare text to go with some of Harry's work for his Expressive Project, in which a pupil is required to explain some of his work and relate it to that of great artists.

Ms Forsyth said she was "profoundly shocked", adding: "I was concerned that this was unethical and probably constituted cheating."

She told the tribunal at Reading, Berkshire: "I assumed I had been asked to do this because Prince Harry was a weak student."

Ms Forsyth, 30, said Harry's failings as a student were well known at Eton and she had been told that a teacher who marked Harry's entrance exam had been "desperate" to find points for which he could award marks.

"and seem to have unironically swallowed their own hype - and yet they take exception to the self-same system when it renders others (William, Kate, Prince George...) 'more important' than them*

Where's that fact?

His self-titled book 'Spare'?

I am bemused that anyone would 'support' this character just because they are anti-royal/pro Meghan's ethnicity. Those are not good grounds to be supportive of someone.

You hit the nail on the head. It is so transparent.

I would add lack of nuanced thinking. You would provide the proof which you have to some agencies/parties but not to adversarial potty mouths on a public forum. Frothing at the mouth and screaming out "Where's the proof?" "Where's the proof?" is not going to bring it forth if it is not your privilege/right to have it. It is not like they have any counter-proof. They don't know these people, they are only pushing a consumed ideology 🙄

@Croque you made some now deleted posts that were just made up. you have no proof so have resorted to slagging off the poster(s) asking for it.
why not just admit you made it up?

Blaming the woman, the wife, is a trope as old as time -biblical even. I’m so over blaming women for the ills of men.

Oh please. If it was a female Royal Family member like Eugene or Beartrice suddenly isolated from their entire family, the family their spouse happen to not be able to get along with you’d be claiming control/abuse. Stop being a naive. You’d have to be complete idiot to think that women can never be controlling or abusive. It’s actually embarrassing.

FWIW it the teacher who helped Harry in his exams, and was indeed dismissed, won her appeal at tribunal: www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/feb/14/schools.publicschools

Needless to say with a member of the RF there was a fudge around him receiving help but that it didn't amount to cheating - 'twas ever thus, but I guess the impression will remain since folk often remember the headline but not the detail

But, the tribunal found no evidence of cheating.

although it found the teacher was unfairly dismissed from the school. Just not over any cheating.

So true. There was a time when I'd follow the Lipstickalley Unpopular Opinions thread (several thousand pages long) daily, hourly, even. I can't be bothered any more; maybe once a week. Can't be bothered with SaintMeghanMarkle in Reddit; just drop in occasionally for a laugh and to see what's the latest they've been up to. As for MM -- very rarely. It's occasional entertanment. Their entertainment value (that's all it ever was) is diminishing by the week. They're no longer entertaining.
Apathy and boredom. I'm almost there too.

The tribunal found no evidence of cheating ...

Very true, but then there was also acceptance of the late Queen's oh so convenient story of "remembering a conversation" with Paul Burrell just as he was about to give evidence, so I hope you'll forgive me for believing all is not necessarily as it seems when it comes to the RF and the legal system

Not that they could have done a damned thing about it even if could be proved she's outright perjured herself, because the monarch is literally beyond the law