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Prince Harry's Memoir: A World Publishing Phenomenon

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 27/10/2022 12:41

There will likely be several bashing threads on Harry's memoir before it is published, but I am interested in discussing with anyone who is interested in the very interesting marketing choices of the publishers and their approach.

English language editions of SPARE will be published on 10 January 2023 in EIGHT territories: the US, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and Canada.

The book will also be published in translation in 15 additional languages:

SPANISH Plaza & Janés/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial
GERMAN Penguin Verlag/Penguin Random House Verlagsgruppe GmbH, PORTUGUESE BRAZIL Objetiva/Grupo Companhia das Letras
PORTUGUESE PORTUGAL Objectiva/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial, SIMPLIFIED CHINESE Penguin Random House China
DANISH Politikens Forlag
DUTCH Hollands Diep, an imprint of Overamstel
FINNISH Otava Publishing Company Ltd
FRENCH Éditions Fayard
GREEK Pedio Books
HUNGARIAN Corvina Kiadó
ITALIAN Mondadori,
POLISH Wydawnictwo Marginesy,
ROMANIAN Nemira Publishing House,
SWEDISH Albert Bonniers Förlag.

This is absolutely sensational as it means it will be simultaneously published in 23 territories on the same day.

There are not many books where simultaneous release occurs in different markets. From this, I would say that the book will more than earn its advance, just from the foreign sales alone.

They also chose a banger of a title as it puts focus on the troubling notion of the Spare in a system based on primogeniture, and one that imbues both intrinsic and extrinsic value based on a person's birth order.

Imagine growing up knowing that no matter how loved you may be, your constitutional role is ultimately to be the spare to the heir.

Can't wait to read it!

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/11/2022 13:22

I haven’t seen anything that would make me believe that somehow the Black woman somehow successfully “bullied” the white upperclass staff or members of the RF. Something very wrong in that picture

You're right, there is something wrong with it - you left out the point that, at the time, Meghan's position was more powerful than most of theirs

Ohnonevermind · 06/11/2022 13:28

Bullying is about an imbalance of power, MM had the power and her staff didn’t

Ohnonevermind · 06/11/2022 13:47

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LondonWolf · 06/11/2022 14:01

I haven’t seen anything that would make me believe that somehow the Black woman somehow successfully “bullied” the white upperclass staff or members of the RF. Something very wrong in that pictur

And this is why CRT is largely a load of senseless nonsense. That a woman in such a powerful and privileged position cannot be held to account for bullying multiple people because she is mixed race. Ludicrous.

Xenia · 06/11/2022 15:24

I don't hink the bullying allegations went to a tribunal. English law covers bullying by anyone and including people of any colour even people with one black parent like MM. I believe MM was supposedly unhappy during Suits are the hotel she was provided in Canada too which does seem to suggest a pattern as I am sure Bower's book shows (with his very very many sources).

I don't know what staff they now have - childcare? cleaning? in the USA to see if that alleged bullying continues. I think the bullying report was kept confidential so who knows if it were correct or the employees were making it up. I certainly don't believe in always believing the victim.

Thisisnotalife · 06/11/2022 16:29

LondonWolf · 06/11/2022 14:01

I haven’t seen anything that would make me believe that somehow the Black woman somehow successfully “bullied” the white upperclass staff or members of the RF. Something very wrong in that pictur

And this is why CRT is largely a load of senseless nonsense. That a woman in such a powerful and privileged position cannot be held to account for bullying multiple people because she is mixed race. Ludicrous.

And that you interject “CRT” into this is also why I cannot take you seriously….

Westfacing · 06/11/2022 16:33

Regarding the alleged bullying - does anyone know what MM is actually supposed to have done?

Was it shouting, criticising, nit-picking?

I have no time for any of the RF really, so not on any one's side, just curious as to what is said to have happened and if it was serious.

Thisisnotalife · 06/11/2022 16:34

Ah let’s stop the disingenuity here. Seriously what position of power was she in, married to the “spare”, with the future King disliking her, the littke grey suits actively leaking stories and not bothering to correct falsities ? the staff knew all this for sure and knew the power was all theirs. Let’s tell everyone how tge lowly black interloper was making them respond to early emails everyone! Yes that is bullying. Snowflakes!

Diverseopinions · 06/11/2022 17:07

If it is true that Meghan said to one side: prior to her engagement: ' We both know that I will soon be one of your bosses', then she presumably knew that she held influence. If Harry told a member of staff that what Meghan wants, Meghan gets, then there would have been a culture of treating her as someone with great authority.

Coronateachingagain · 06/11/2022 17:27

Marulatree · 06/11/2022 12:43

An opponent of cancel culture? That’s ironic given the numerous comments you endorse (and, indeed, pen yourself) that are critical of Prince Harry’s decision to publish his memoir. I guess free speech must have its limits when it’s something you don’t want to hear – or in this case, read.

Oh many here are not really opposed to him publishing a book - it is more amazement at the whole situation. Personally I think it won't help them one bit, and has nothing to do with retaliation but more about digging a big hole for themselves.

Coronateachingagain · 06/11/2022 17:32

Thisisnotalife · 06/11/2022 16:34

Ah let’s stop the disingenuity here. Seriously what position of power was she in, married to the “spare”, with the future King disliking her, the littke grey suits actively leaking stories and not bothering to correct falsities ? the staff knew all this for sure and knew the power was all theirs. Let’s tell everyone how tge lowly black interloper was making them respond to early emails everyone! Yes that is bullying. Snowflakes!

The question is not what position of power was she in. The question is what position of power was she wanting to hold, which was not warranted or deserved or won. By the looks of it she likes lots of yes people around her. By the looks of it they don't listen to advice. So. Live by the consequences I guess.
🍿 in the meantime, amusing to watch!

Readinginthesun · 06/11/2022 17:37

I always had the impression that The Queen was more forgiving of Harry and tried hard to keep him part of the family but I am not convinced that KC will be as soft . Yes, he loves his son but from his first day as King he made it clear that W and C are the Future while H and M build their lives overseas . I - and others- took that as “ no going back” . There are lots of rumours on line , most of which I take with a pinch of salt but I do think there is stuff going on behind the scenes especially around titles. If I was Harry I would be very nervous about the book .

LondonWolf · 06/11/2022 17:50

And that you interject “CRT” into this is also why I cannot take you seriously….

🤷🏼‍♀️😊

derxa · 06/11/2022 18:05

And all shall be well and
All manner of thing shall be well
Mother Julian of Norwich

Marulatree · 06/11/2022 18:14

@Coronateachingagain
What are you watching exactly? A couple taking strides in their lives, securing multi-million pound contracts? A couple doing exactly as they please irrespective of any opposition? A couple happily raising their adorable young children out of the gaze of the British media that they despise? A couple so visibly in love and supportive of each other’s endeavours. I don’t see much humour, just a lot of blessings to be counted.

Coronateachingagain · 06/11/2022 18:22

@Marulatree I don't think I need to elaborate. You have enough material on this thread alone.

You paint a rosy picture, great if true. All I will add is that their "blessings" don't seem to be enough for this pair. As for the rest, you can re read up thread and remind yourself.

Marulatree · 06/11/2022 18:32

@Coronateachingagain
I take it that it’s all of those factors. It goes to show that the couple are in no need of anyone’s concern (or opinions for that matter). They’re doing extremely well.

MidnightConstellation · 06/11/2022 18:35

Marulatree · 06/11/2022 18:14

@Coronateachingagain
What are you watching exactly? A couple taking strides in their lives, securing multi-million pound contracts? A couple doing exactly as they please irrespective of any opposition? A couple happily raising their adorable young children out of the gaze of the British media that they despise? A couple so visibly in love and supportive of each other’s endeavours. I don’t see much humour, just a lot of blessings to be counted.

It would be great if they themselves appreciated their blessings and stopped whinging, pointing fingers and cashing in on grievances.

Coronateachingagain · 06/11/2022 18:54

It would be great if they themselves appreciated their blessings and stopped whinging, pointing fingers and cashing in on grievances.

👆👆👆👆

Ohnonevermind · 06/11/2022 18:54

@Coronateachingagain

So true, they should recognise their privilege.

Diverseopinions · 06/11/2022 21:14

They have been blessed with abundant privileges. But, to be honest with you, I think they know that, and, for that reason, they are aiming high. They don't want to have a normal life, like every Joe, Tom and Dick, they want to take their 'rightful' place at the top of society, where their beauty( in her case), acting training, and leg up from her successful dad, and blue blood and Diana legacy ( in his case) have put them. She's lucky her dad's work gave her that insight into the film world and helped pay for her privileged education.

Croque · 07/11/2022 09:21

beauty( in her case), acting training, and leg up from her successful dad

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In any case, all of the above never got her very far all by herself in three decades of trying. He has brought all of the the privileges and opportunities into the marriage. This would be the case regardless of who he married.

They are about to hit the age ceiling for celebrities and are thirsty. They have cashed in on the RF and made a few million in that time - that was the success available to her via marriage. She would not have sat back and cut ribbons in Darlington during those final years. Never mind the problems it created for the RF or her family.

By the time they reach the end of their career (as she did), actors have a pretty good idea of their acting ability. They don't need sycophants to speak on their behalf (although you cannot stop them) . She knew that she was nothing great (which is why she says herself that she would not act again).

Finding freedom was basically all about the wonga but given a gloss of charitability to make her seem less greedy.

pumpkinscoop · 07/11/2022 09:43

'She knew that she was nothing great (which is why she says herself that she would not act again).'

Agree totally with this. In certain circles, she'd be box office gold at the moment, but it would probably be the Hallmark end of the market rather than the 'The Hurt Locker' end.

But, she'd rather be riding on the tails of her husband's family and setting herself and her family up as an alternative royal court in the US. For some weird reason.

MaulPerton · 07/11/2022 09:55

But, she'd rather be riding on the tails of her husband's family and setting herself and her family up as an alternative royal court in the US. For some weird reason

The reason is money. They took one look at how well the Obamas, the Clintons, the Gores, the Bush clan, Oprah, the Blairs, and some of the other socially prominent characters had done by merging their name with charity and decided that they wanted a slice of that. It's interesting that only some RF members, celebs and politicians do it while others don't. I wonder what differentiates the former group from the latter?

Readinginthesun · 07/11/2022 10:01

Croque · 07/11/2022 09:21

beauty( in her case), acting training, and leg up from her successful dad

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In any case, all of the above never got her very far all by herself in three decades of trying. He has brought all of the the privileges and opportunities into the marriage. This would be the case regardless of who he married.

They are about to hit the age ceiling for celebrities and are thirsty. They have cashed in on the RF and made a few million in that time - that was the success available to her via marriage. She would not have sat back and cut ribbons in Darlington during those final years. Never mind the problems it created for the RF or her family.

By the time they reach the end of their career (as she did), actors have a pretty good idea of their acting ability. They don't need sycophants to speak on their behalf (although you cannot stop them) . She knew that she was nothing great (which is why she says herself that she would not act again).

Finding freedom was basically all about the wonga but given a gloss of charitability to make her seem less greedy.

I agree 👏👏

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