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Prince Harry's Memoir: A World Publishing Phenomenon

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 27/10/2022 12:41

There will likely be several bashing threads on Harry's memoir before it is published, but I am interested in discussing with anyone who is interested in the very interesting marketing choices of the publishers and their approach.

English language editions of SPARE will be published on 10 January 2023 in EIGHT territories: the US, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and Canada.

The book will also be published in translation in 15 additional languages:

SPANISH Plaza & Janés/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial
GERMAN Penguin Verlag/Penguin Random House Verlagsgruppe GmbH, PORTUGUESE BRAZIL Objetiva/Grupo Companhia das Letras
PORTUGUESE PORTUGAL Objectiva/Penguin Random House Grupo Editorial, SIMPLIFIED CHINESE Penguin Random House China
DANISH Politikens Forlag
DUTCH Hollands Diep, an imprint of Overamstel
FINNISH Otava Publishing Company Ltd
FRENCH Éditions Fayard
GREEK Pedio Books
HUNGARIAN Corvina Kiadó
ITALIAN Mondadori,
POLISH Wydawnictwo Marginesy,
ROMANIAN Nemira Publishing House,
SWEDISH Albert Bonniers Förlag.

This is absolutely sensational as it means it will be simultaneously published in 23 territories on the same day.

There are not many books where simultaneous release occurs in different markets. From this, I would say that the book will more than earn its advance, just from the foreign sales alone.

They also chose a banger of a title as it puts focus on the troubling notion of the Spare in a system based on primogeniture, and one that imbues both intrinsic and extrinsic value based on a person's birth order.

Imagine growing up knowing that no matter how loved you may be, your constitutional role is ultimately to be the spare to the heir.

Can't wait to read it!

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MidnightConstellation · 07/11/2022 10:01

MaulPerton · 07/11/2022 09:55

But, she'd rather be riding on the tails of her husband's family and setting herself and her family up as an alternative royal court in the US. For some weird reason

The reason is money. They took one look at how well the Obamas, the Clintons, the Gores, the Bush clan, Oprah, the Blairs, and some of the other socially prominent characters had done by merging their name with charity and decided that they wanted a slice of that. It's interesting that only some RF members, celebs and politicians do it while others don't. I wonder what differentiates the former group from the latter?

I don’t think Harry cared about having a celebrity lifestyle , expensive clothes or hob nobbing with the rich and famous before he met M. It’s all driven by her and her agenda in my opinion. He gave the impression of wanting to be as much like an ordinary person as he could be given his circumstances.

Croque · 07/11/2022 10:10

MidnightConstellation · 07/11/2022 10:01

I don’t think Harry cared about having a celebrity lifestyle , expensive clothes or hob nobbing with the rich and famous before he met M. It’s all driven by her and her agenda in my opinion. He gave the impression of wanting to be as much like an ordinary person as he could be given his circumstances.

Agree 🙀She probably told him that given the huge differences in their backgrounds, they would have to meet somewhere in the middle. He would have to let her shine and exploit his family while he would have to defer to her and adopt un-Royal mannerisms and aspirations. It is such a load of phony baloney.

MaulPerton · 07/11/2022 10:33

MidnightConstellation · 07/11/2022 10:01

I don’t think Harry cared about having a celebrity lifestyle , expensive clothes or hob nobbing with the rich and famous before he met M. It’s all driven by her and her agenda in my opinion. He gave the impression of wanting to be as much like an ordinary person as he could be given his circumstances.

But, that leaves him paying a very high price for something that he doesn't care much about. The highest price of all. Is that likely? Would he really do it for something that he wasn't bothered about? Coupled with the fact that some people don't have an 'enough' button when it comes to wealth, I am not convinced that H himself is not a very big part of 'this'.

Croque · 07/11/2022 10:41

He probably never had the intellectual/life skills to evaluate how far the hustling would go and what it would 'cost' him. It's a runaway train and he is compliant, not complicit because he is seriously out of his depth. He is not street smart by London standards let alone LA standards. She saw him coming.

MidnightConstellation · 07/11/2022 10:44

Croque · 07/11/2022 10:41

He probably never had the intellectual/life skills to evaluate how far the hustling would go and what it would 'cost' him. It's a runaway train and he is compliant, not complicit because he is seriously out of his depth. He is not street smart by London standards let alone LA standards. She saw him coming.

Completely agree. I don’t think he knows what’s hit him to be honest.

MidnightConstellation · 07/11/2022 10:50

MaulPerton · 07/11/2022 10:33

But, that leaves him paying a very high price for something that he doesn't care much about. The highest price of all. Is that likely? Would he really do it for something that he wasn't bothered about? Coupled with the fact that some people don't have an 'enough' button when it comes to wealth, I am not convinced that H himself is not a very big part of 'this'.

I think he is absolutely desperate for someone to love him and for a family life. I do wonder how much of a family life they have, despite all the glowing accounts of chickens and dogs. I read something somewhere which said that actually the children are cared for by a nanny/nannies in the main. Archie goes to ‘school’ (nursery). Meghan seems very busy with promoting her own career. I wonder if he’s left wandering round his vast house with the dogs, perfecting his juggling skills and wondering what it’s all about.
The only family member they see is her mother. Perhaps it isn’t quite what he had envisaged. All speculation of course but based on what I’ve read and a gut feeling.
Her own mother wasn’t around much from a young age and perhaps that’s the model she is used to.
Not suggesting they don’t love and adore their kids. Of course they do.

MidnightConstellation · 07/11/2022 10:59

He also made a comment about Archie being ‘busy’ all the time, which I thought was odd for such a young child.

antelopevalley · 07/11/2022 11:01

Why odd? Don't rich people take toddlers to many organised activities, groups and experiences. He probably is busy.

Ohnonevermind · 07/11/2022 11:43

Teachers and other professionals often use ‘busy’ to mean always on the move and not sitting still which is perfectly normal and expected in a three year old.

antelopevalley · 07/11/2022 12:38

You all see Harry as this naive idiot with a scheming wife who makes him do everything. It is incredibly insulting to Harry. He is not a child.

MidnightConstellation · 07/11/2022 13:05

antelopevalley · 07/11/2022 12:38

You all see Harry as this naive idiot with a scheming wife who makes him do everything. It is incredibly insulting to Harry. He is not a child.

I think he’s emotionally a child. That’s the problem.

antelopevalley · 07/11/2022 13:12

He is a grown adult man. He is choosing to do what he does.

I see this again and again on many occasions. People who do not like a man's behaviour blame it on their wife. His wife is making him do it!
Give me a break.

Croque · 07/11/2022 13:42

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CatsAreAlwaysCute · 07/11/2022 14:45

What "learning difficulties" does he have? Confused

antelopevalley · 07/11/2022 15:12

First I have heard that he has learning difficulties!
Or do you simply mean he has something like dyslexia?

pumpkinscoop · 07/11/2022 15:14

Dyslexia is absolutely classed as a learning difficulty - it can impact hugely on someone's ability to learn.

hoooops · 07/11/2022 15:19

@Croque said "learning disabilities" so must mean some kind of intellectual impairment rather than dyslexia, which is a learning difficulty.

antelopevalley · 07/11/2022 15:19

So dyslexia means that he is not responsible for his actions and childlike? FFS He is a grown adult who is choosing what he does.

hoooops · 07/11/2022 15:21

NB "learning disabilities", not learning difficulties. Dyslexia is a learning difficulty so not that. Here is how mencap define learning disabilities:

"A learning disability is a reduced intellectual ability and difficulty with everyday activities – for example household tasks, socialising or managing money – which affects someone for their whole life."

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antelopevalley · 07/11/2022 15:29

It is a novel tactic to defend the daft idea that Harry as an adult man is totally controlled by Meghan who does everything she says. And if she was not around he would go back to the Royal Family and instead do everything they tell him to do.

ajandjjmum · 07/11/2022 17:33

I think he was so desperate to have a wife and lovely family, that when a beautiful woman like Meghan came along, with her brain, interest in charity work (UN etc.) and seemed interested in him, he couldn't believe his luck.

He whisked her off to Botswana, where she displayed how happy she would be living a simple life in Africa by weeing in the bush.

She saw doors opening to untold wealth and celebrity, with the whole world bowing at her feet.

Neither had realistic expectations, and neither was prepared to tell 'their truth', they just wanted to rush up the aisle before - in Harry's case, Meghan changed her mind about him, and in Meghan's case, the skeletons came tumbling out of the closet.

At least, that's as I see it............

Croque · 07/11/2022 17:39

ajandjjmum · 07/11/2022 17:33

I think he was so desperate to have a wife and lovely family, that when a beautiful woman like Meghan came along, with her brain, interest in charity work (UN etc.) and seemed interested in him, he couldn't believe his luck.

He whisked her off to Botswana, where she displayed how happy she would be living a simple life in Africa by weeing in the bush.

She saw doors opening to untold wealth and celebrity, with the whole world bowing at her feet.

Neither had realistic expectations, and neither was prepared to tell 'their truth', they just wanted to rush up the aisle before - in Harry's case, Meghan changed her mind about him, and in Meghan's case, the skeletons came tumbling out of the closet.

At least, that's as I see it............

I agree but I don't think it was confirmed to be "weeing in the bush" 💩

xPeaceX · 07/11/2022 17:48

ajandjjmum · 07/11/2022 17:33

I think he was so desperate to have a wife and lovely family, that when a beautiful woman like Meghan came along, with her brain, interest in charity work (UN etc.) and seemed interested in him, he couldn't believe his luck.

He whisked her off to Botswana, where she displayed how happy she would be living a simple life in Africa by weeing in the bush.

She saw doors opening to untold wealth and celebrity, with the whole world bowing at her feet.

Neither had realistic expectations, and neither was prepared to tell 'their truth', they just wanted to rush up the aisle before - in Harry's case, Meghan changed her mind about him, and in Meghan's case, the skeletons came tumbling out of the closet.

At least, that's as I see it............

Nailed it. It's sad but true.
Harry also overshot. His last two girlfriends hadn't wanted any limelight so meghan"s seeiming insouciance desire over /for media attention seemed reassuring. At first.

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