Unpopular Opinion - William and Kate

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Don't come at me, I'm sharing my unpopular opinion because I want to know what you all think but just don't see a spark between William & Kate.

Loved them since the day they starting dating way back when they were undergrads at St Andrews but I just don't see their connection in pictures and it seems a little forced when she has her hand on his back or when they do hold hands.

I don't expect them to hold hands and snog because I know they're mostly photographed whilst they're working but he looks bored and she looks like she's trying her best.

Does anyone agree with me?

Very much agree, @CoffeeCantata, though I don't recall a voiceeover at the end of the Oprah interview - I thought the "not the Queen" was a statement made the next day, but anyway it was certainly said

Unfortunately, though, this is the way too many interviews are done now, and if H&M thought there was any chance of incisive questioning Oprah probably wouldn't have got the interview in the first place (and BTW ignore "they don't know what the questions will be" as that was just an insult to the intelligence)

As for exempting the Queen "because she held the purse strings" and later the naming of Charles, given the ages of both they needed to use more sense.
It was always obvious it would be William controlling the money before very long - even now I expect he'll have more say as PoW and with his father very ill - and god help H&M when he moves onto the top job

It was always obvious it would be William controlling the money before very long - even now I expect he'll have more say as PoW and with his father very ill - and god help H&M when he moves onto the top job

Given that Harry appears not to understand at all the institution into which he was born, I wonder if this ever occurred to him when he was running around setting family relationships ablaze and dancing on the ashes?

Just looked it up ... according to CBS themselves it was Oprah herself who "clarified" that the comments weren't made by the Queen or Phillip: "On Monday morning, Oprah told "CBS This Morning" that neither Queen Elizabeth II nor Prince Phillip made the comments"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-queen-elizabeth-prince-philip-archie-skin-color-oprah-interview-cbs/

Edited to add that I sometimes wonder if anything occurs to him beyond what he wants the narrative to be at any given moment, @MrsDanversGlidesAgain - hence the many lies which he seemingly expects to brush aside on the basis of his one-time position
Unfortunately for Harry life doesn't work like that in the real world, but then the real world's something it seems he's never really come to terms with

Did Harry not suggest that he and William control the Duchy of Cornwall together and share the proceeds ?
Can’t remember where I read that but it definitely rings a bell .
Now trying to imagine Meghan’s reaction if William controlled their funding …..

I bet William rolled his eyes so hard they stuck to his skull at that suggestion. The bloke (Harry) is clueless.

I don't know about Meghan's reaction, @Mylovelygreendress, but the whole point is that it will be William controlling the money, and in the not too distant future - something H&M would have perhaps been wise to consider

Not sure about Harry saying he and William controlled the Duchy or Cornwall together though; after all up until the Queen's death it was Charles's to control and he in turn funded William and Harry from the proceeds
Now of course William controls the Duchy and doesn't have to ask his dad for money any more (which must be quite nice!!)

The worst example of racism M could come up with - having been embroiled with the RF for 4 years (from meeting Harry to leaving) - is:

"Harry told me someone mentioned what colour our babies' skin might be"

This, in an otherwise all-white family with a spread of ages from babes to the 99-year-old Philip.

My understanding is that the provision of separate funding for the King and the Heir via the two Duchies was set up deliberately because the Hanoverian heirs and their dads had some serious squabbles in successive generations, which meant that the heir was regularly left penniless.

(And it would require an Act of Parliament to allow the Duchy of Cornwall to be split between siblings, rather than ring-fenced for the Heir.)

Harry was supposedly at the conversation where the claims of “unconscious bias” comments where made and some people hold weight in Harry’s description because it came from Meghan. Even though again with Harry he is the only one we know to have publicly discussed the success of his ginger gene. Reinforcing why a conversation about Catherine circles back to Harry, because just like the Nazi uniform, the suicidal thoughts of his wife, Meghan not feeling welcome enough somehow lands on the door of Catherine and not Harry.

I agree that Harry has behaved like an utter twat and he is far from innocent in any of this. His ridiculous howling about lack of security in the UK and his litigation addiction being two examples, as well as his refusal to take responsibility for anything and constantly playing the victim. However, all the personal digs at the Princess of Wales have come squarely from his wife imo. From things like not taking Meghan on shopping trips, not sharing lip balm and not being casual or hugggyyy enough (🤮) to the “accidental” naming of her as one of the “racists” by Scobie all seem to me to come from the fact that Meghan is jealous and seeking to undermine the Princess

eta Meant to say also that this is why the Princess is in the firing line from the Squad

Meghan is utterly and completely jealous of Kate in every way. Her actions due to this jealousy have caused so much upset.

Just dipped in to see what the chat was about and it’s amazing - comedy microphones have made a reappearance. Honestly 🤣.

What a joke, the thread was started by someone keen to rip William and Kate only because they think it somehow makes Meghan and Harry look better. Of course it ends up about them. That’s the whole point!

And then bumped again 20 months later for the same purpose. Or do we think the person bumping the thread did so for another reason?

Harry probably naively thought the Queen would live at least as long as the Queen Mother and therefore so would Charles which would have meant William would not be King for around another 30 years, I bet it’s knocked the pair of them for six that King William and Queen Catherine is a very real possibility much sooner than they anticipated, the pair of them will go into meltdown when it happens.

I wonder what Harry think when he sees the pictures of the State Banquet in the papers today, it would have been him and Meghan front and centre bedecked in jewels and regalia with Emperor of Japan, he was such a fool to think him and Meghan could undertake all the glitzy events whilst flogging jam and dog biscuits.

I bet it’s knocked the pair of them for six that King William and Queen Catherine is a very real possibility much sooner than they anticipated, the pair of them will go into meltdown when it happens

Indeed. Although as regards the rest of your comment, that's a degree of forward planning I just can't see with PH.

Reminder klaxon. The title of the thread is........

"Unpopular Opinion - William and Kate"

Yes and with an OP that posted twice then naffed off. It’s textbook at this point.

Thread polis

Harry probably naively thought the Queen would live at least as long as the Queen Mother and therefore so would Charles ...

I could just about see that concerning the late Queen, but if he honestly thought Charles would last to 101 he's even more misguided than I thought - and that applied even before we knew about his cancer diagnosis

As ever though Harry's made his choices and will just have to live with them; blaming others for every little thing might have worked when protected by the palace but it's run out now and the consequences are his to bear

Ha don’t make me laugh, how about having a look at the thread about the lovely photo with William and the children with Taylor Swift, and there are posters on there banging on about taxes and how Ireland funds their head of state, now that is derailment.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 10:04
I don't know about Meghan's reaction, , but the whole point is that it will be William controlling the money, and in the not too distant future - something H&M would have perhaps been wise to consider.

Yes, and I suppose it's possible Charles may decide to step down early in view of his illness. I know the late Queen was determined to carry on to the end, but it would be completely understandable if Charles passed things over to William early and took things easier. He might be more inclined to think this way for Camilla's sake, too. So even if Charles completely recovers from his illness - which I hope he does - he may choose not to go on to the bitter end.

hastalav · Today 12:55
Reminder klaxon. The title of the thread is........

"Unpopular Opinion - William and Kate"

And also, discussion threads are 'organic' things - they'll go off in all kinds of directions and I don't see what's wrong with that as long as the majority of pps are happy with it. Just like any conversation face-to-face. You don't call your co-conversationalists to order all the time, and police the way the chat is going.

That's different from a deliberate de-railment. We can all recognise the difference!

Not your job to police threads. Threads move on (especially on this board).