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Removing E:R from Harry’s Uniform

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Zoom101 · 18/09/2022 12:07

I am certainly not one of H&M’s fans but I think that for someone to actually remove the ER initials from his military uniform for the vigil was beyond petty.

The decision was made to allow him to wear a military uniform, fine, Andrew was also given permission but to take the time and trouble to remove the Queen’s initials from the epaulettes was, I think, really childish. I know he has chosen to not be a working Royal but the initals were left on Andrew’s epaulettes so why were Harry’s removed?

Apart from anything else, this will just add grist to the mill of H&M’s litany of complaints but for once, I think they’d be justified in being upset by this.

Expect I’ll be flamed for this and there are many more important things going on in the world but I do think this was a snotty thing to do to Harry.

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oakleaffy · 18/09/2022 15:31

Serenster · 18/09/2022 12:52

It’s neither petty nor spiteful, it was because they related to a role that he no longer has.

Harry was only entitled to the ER badges on his epaulettes because he was appointed a personal Aide de Camp to his grandmother. He was appointed to this position in October 2018 (so, if you see pictures of him in his uniform at the wedding, below, he didn’t have them then either).

After Harry left the Royal Family and ceased to hold his honorary positions, he also ceased to hold his role as ADC. His father granted him dispensation to wear his uniform for the vigil, but obviously he wasn’t reappointed to the ADC role (his grandmother being dead, she obviously couldn’t reappoint him…), so he didn’t have the badges on his epaulettes.

That’s interesting that Harry didn’t have them at his wedding.
Bit of a non- story then.
Thanks for clarifying.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:34

OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle · 18/09/2022 15:27

It strikes me that the person who this story came from originally may be an individual with a eye for detail, a keen sense of persecution, the ability to influence Prince Harry to feel aggrieved and absolutely no understanding (or will to understand) about British protocol.

Gosh. Who could that be?

🤣🤣

smilesy · 18/09/2022 15:35

Obviously it is correct that Harry didn’t have the ER on his uniform but it will just give H&M more ammunition unless they finally learn not to tell tales when they back to the States (which I very much doubt).

This is true, but how many allowances can be made for them in order not to give them ammunition? This particular point would seem to me to be clearly protocol and something which is a non story. So far, lots of allowance have been made for them at this time which has effectively undermined their claims of being badly treated or single d out. It seems to me that someone is clutching at straws in order to find offence. But a line has to be drawn somewhere. Much like the decision not to allow them to go to the reception at Buckingham Palace. If they allow the Sussexes to go, then they would have to allow other non working royals to go. It works both ways.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/09/2022 15:36

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:34

🤣🤣

And here we go, the true intention of the thread is revealed as yet another opportunity to blame Meghan!

HappyHamsters · 18/09/2022 15:37

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:34

🤣🤣

Somone who is out to make mischief

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 18/09/2022 15:39

He's an adult, he made his choice. He needs to accept the consequences of that choice and stop leaking things to the press he hates them remember Some sections of the public also need to stop treating and making endless allowances for his appalling behaviour, like he is still a 12 yo. Same goes for the 'poor picked on out of her depth MM' business. She was a woman in her late 30's with a degree in IR, she knows exactly what she's doing.

GoingOnce · 18/09/2022 15:40

Well I’m sure Oprah will get to the bottom of it in due course.

WilsonMilson · 18/09/2022 15:41

It was silly to remove it as it’s only gone and given the wingers more fuel to play victim and make it all about them, as always.

I wish we could just let this week be about remembering the Queen and not about the petulant man child and his attention seeking wife. I’m so over them,

I thought H looked thunderous last night at the vigil, and I can imagine M was all to eager to leak this to the press to get more attention for them and their ‘suffering’.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/09/2022 15:42

@PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog what makes you think he leaked this story to this press? Did you read the statement he released himself about the uniform? If so, why do you believe he would then leak this story?

LAWinterofOurDiscountTents · 18/09/2022 15:42

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:08

Harry doesn’t think rules should apply to him in any situation , that’s the trouble.

Gosh, who would expect actual princes, raised in a bizarre bubble of extreme privilege, to be a bit entitled?

I'm SHOCKED, I tell you. SHOCKED.

BasiliskStare · 18/09/2022 15:43

Oh - "another chance to blame Meghan " - I think she and indeed H have behaved reprehensibly at times but just for the next couple of days - it isn't about H&M

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 18/09/2022 15:44

@MrsMaxDeWinter They both leak things to the press all the time. The statement gave them a smoke screen, but they do leak stuff. Also, the wording of that statement was very similar to the HMQ doesn't own service statement.

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 18/09/2022 15:45

@MrsMaxDeWinter They leak for sympathy

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:46

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/09/2022 15:36

And here we go, the true intention of the thread is revealed as yet another opportunity to blame Meghan!

I don’t think so. However it does seem that she stokes the fires shall we say.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:47

LAWinterofOurDiscountTents · 18/09/2022 15:42

Gosh, who would expect actual princes, raised in a bizarre bubble of extreme privilege, to be a bit entitled?

I'm SHOCKED, I tell you. SHOCKED.

I love your username!

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/09/2022 15:47

@WilsonMilson

I wish we could just let this week be about remembering the Queen and not about the petulant man child and his attention seeking wife. I’m so over them

Why do you blame them for the coverage about them in the press? Harry even released a statement saying the focus should not be on his uniform but on the Queen. Why then do you blame him? And how has Meghan been attention seeking this week? She has been seen just twice, and has spoken no word at all. In what way has she been attention seeking?

I thought H looked thunderous last night at the vigil

The vigil, perhaps you forget, was a sad occasion in that it is one of the events arranged to mourn his grandmother, who loved him as he loved her. Did you expect him him to grin maniacally while doing the hula?

Peaceandcalm · 18/09/2022 15:47

And who said ‘Harry and Meghan are unimportant’? When so many people trawl news sites each day looking for any story about them. No matter how fanciful the tale it gives said people the opportunity to discuss this ‘unimportant’ couple time and time again. That’s a new definition of unimportant.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:49

WilsonMilson · 18/09/2022 15:41

It was silly to remove it as it’s only gone and given the wingers more fuel to play victim and make it all about them, as always.

I wish we could just let this week be about remembering the Queen and not about the petulant man child and his attention seeking wife. I’m so over them,

I thought H looked thunderous last night at the vigil, and I can imagine M was all to eager to leak this to the press to get more attention for them and their ‘suffering’.

OH is completely disinterested in the RF and all the shenanigans, but he remarked that H looked quite forbidding and a bit sinister at the vigil. I was surprised that he would notice such a thing. I felt the same. The brim of his hat was pulled down to obscure his eyes , which added to the impression that he didn’t want to be observed too closely.

jcyclops · 18/09/2022 15:50

Harry was also devastated that he was banned from sucking on the royal dummy, because he had previously thrown it out of the pram.

ShandaLear · 18/09/2022 15:52

They all look like absolutely ridiculous wearing military uniform rammed full of medals given to them by their my mum and granny because of who they are rather than what they’ve achieved. They look like they’re all playing dress up.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/09/2022 15:52

@Peaceandcalm

Indeed!

It amuses me that some people have spent more time on the Meghan bashing threads, even as the nation mourns its Queen of 70 years, and this week is about her. And this without Meghan saying a word, and only being seen twice. She clearly lives rent free in the heads of some of the women here!

TokyoTen · 18/09/2022 15:52

I'm with you OP. Whoever choose to do that was either an utter jobsworth or vindictive. Obviously losing the initials of his grandmother from the uniform of the very person he is mourning was a horrible thing to have to suffer. I am no H and M fan but to me that was unacceptable and petty. Even if its not absolute protocol it wouldn't have harmed anything to have left them on.

LovingTheseAutumnSnippets · 18/09/2022 15:56

I bet Harry is not upset about uniforms and ER badges as he undoubtedly knows all about protocol surrounding the armed forces and serving the Queen.

It is probably just the media churning this up and there is nothing to it.

Cherryblossoms85 · 18/09/2022 16:01

Tbh this whole set-up has gradually moved me from neutral to positive on the monarchy to pretty much thinking they should all disappear from public life and take their diamonds to a nice country pile somewhere in Rutland.

HappyHamsters · 18/09/2022 16:01

TokyoTen · 18/09/2022 15:52

I'm with you OP. Whoever choose to do that was either an utter jobsworth or vindictive. Obviously losing the initials of his grandmother from the uniform of the very person he is mourning was a horrible thing to have to suffer. I am no H and M fan but to me that was unacceptable and petty. Even if its not absolute protocol it wouldn't have harmed anything to have left them on.

How do we know when it was taken off, if he didnt have it on his uniform when he got married 4 years ago then its not been recently removed. Its a complete non story. Do mlitary personnel usually keep their uniforms once they leave or retire.

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