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Removing E:R from Harry’s Uniform

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Zoom101 · 18/09/2022 12:07

I am certainly not one of H&M’s fans but I think that for someone to actually remove the ER initials from his military uniform for the vigil was beyond petty.

The decision was made to allow him to wear a military uniform, fine, Andrew was also given permission but to take the time and trouble to remove the Queen’s initials from the epaulettes was, I think, really childish. I know he has chosen to not be a working Royal but the initals were left on Andrew’s epaulettes so why were Harry’s removed?

Apart from anything else, this will just add grist to the mill of H&M’s litany of complaints but for once, I think they’d be justified in being upset by this.

Expect I’ll be flamed for this and there are many more important things going on in the world but I do think this was a snotty thing to do to Harry.

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KermitlovesKeyLimePie · 18/09/2022 15:02

This will be a whole new chapter for his updated book and more Netflix and Spotify content.

Just think of all that lovely $$$$$$$

Montecito mansion's, security, polo ponies and designer clothes don't just pay for their selves you know!

vera99 · 18/09/2022 15:04

I wonder if Meghan chooses his underpants or does he or is it a mix of both ?😂

ajandjjmum · 18/09/2022 15:04

Just1thing · 18/09/2022 13:14

Feelings are more important than protocol?

OK so all the ex-servicemen and women who were queuing to pay their respects and wanted to wear their uniforms but weren’t allowed to, should also have been able to wear them? Even though it’s against protocol?

This. DH couldn't wear his uniform, as he'd left the forces some years ago.

It seems a bit 'give an inch and they'll take a yard' - allowed to wear uniform and keep beard, and now moaning because he didn't have his ADC epauletes.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/09/2022 15:05

REP22 · 18/09/2022 14:55

*I meant (Elizabeth Reigns).

You were right first time, it's Elizabeth Regina. It'll take a long time to change the royal cypher on everything, aren't they all hand embroidered.

TimBoothseyes · 18/09/2022 15:06

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 12:46

Agree with this. I also wonder who told the press.

Chances are nobody did. The phrase "royal/inside/close friend"* is code for " we made it up but because we haven't named anybody, the story cannot be proven or disproved", as told to me by an actual journalist many years ago. That is why unless the source is named or there is actual proof then believe nothing you read.

*Delete as applicable

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:06

KosherDill · 18/09/2022 14:49

Agree with this.

Well said.

Raul57 · 18/09/2022 15:07

So who sold the story?
I bet you no one would have noted it if it had not been in the press.
So what is the source of this story?

Roussette · 18/09/2022 15:07

GoingOnce · 18/09/2022 12:11

Indeed. Who leaked this? What was their motive? Literally no-one would ever have noticed.

Does that matter? He knew.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:08

KosherDill · 18/09/2022 14:47

Excellent points.

He seems to always want things both ways.

Harry doesn’t think rules should apply to him in any situation , that’s the trouble.

MalagaNights · 18/09/2022 15:10

Floralei · 18/09/2022 14:01

And I can’t get my head round anyone being infuriated by 2 men who served in the armed forces being allowed to wear uniform for a ceremonial activity where their siblings/aunt/ uncle are wearing one for honorary and also ceremonial reasons. A) nothing to do with any of us B) they saw active service and C) who gives a shit about CLOTHES. They’re clothes! Not medals! Or taxpayers allowances or criminal convictions or anything that matters. Of all the things to get irate about online, what people are wearing is not something that annoys me.

I can get my head around all the ex service men who'd also like to wear uniform at an important event yet are barred from doing so due to protocol being infuriated.

If Harry chooses not to be in the RF he can't hold the military honorary roles so has the same rules now as all other ex service men.

But he doesn't want to be like a normal ex service man he still wants all the special honours.

Even though he hates the RF bubble and wants a normal non public life 🙄

Seems maybe all the pomp and status is much more important to him than he thought?

kateandme · 18/09/2022 15:11

Who here has spoken to Harry?
you are basing his feelings on the papers stating his feelings

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:11

greenhousegal · 18/09/2022 14:28

The RF is turning (has turned?) into a soap opera of manic proportions for the weary masses.

It certainly has

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 18/09/2022 15:16

REP22 · 18/09/2022 14:55

*I meant (Elizabeth Reigns).

It means Elizabeth the Queen ( Regina is Latin for Queen). CR will be Charles Rex ( King)

MeridianB · 18/09/2022 15:16

Serenster · 18/09/2022 12:52

It’s neither petty nor spiteful, it was because they related to a role that he no longer has.

Harry was only entitled to the ER badges on his epaulettes because he was appointed a personal Aide de Camp to his grandmother. He was appointed to this position in October 2018 (so, if you see pictures of him in his uniform at the wedding, below, he didn’t have them then either).

After Harry left the Royal Family and ceased to hold his honorary positions, he also ceased to hold his role as ADC. His father granted him dispensation to wear his uniform for the vigil, but obviously he wasn’t reappointed to the ADC role (his grandmother being dead, she obviously couldn’t reappoint him…), so he didn’t have the badges on his epaulettes.

This covers it. It’s an unnecessary story. Perhaps Harry’s friend Omid leaked it or was asked to. Perhaps it was flagged by a military contact. Either way, Harry no longer holds the role that merits the initials, so should not have been surprised, let alone ‘devastated’ or ‘humiliated’.

As many people have said this week, you don’t leave an employer then expect all the staff perks to continue.

More generally, I think it would have been much simpler/more appropriate to have Andrew and Harry in suits.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 15:16

caringcarer · 18/09/2022 14:26

Let's not forget Harry turned down an invitation from the Query to visit her for a sleepover at Balmoral with Meghan less than 2 weeks before her death. If you love someone you make time for them. They had a day off on their schedule but could not be bothered.

My thoughts too

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 18/09/2022 15:17

Harry has chosen to wear other military uniforms in the past

NippyWoowoo · 18/09/2022 15:20

YANBU.

P E T T Y.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 18/09/2022 15:24

@caringcarer @SilverLiningPlaybook

How do you know that Harry "turned down" an invitation from the Queen to Balmoral? Was there an official statement about this from Harry or from the Queen? Or is it something you read in the Daily Mail?

Do you know for a fact that the offer was made and "they were not bothered"?

MelodyPondsMum · 18/09/2022 15:26

It's petty that someone leaked it to the media and said Harry was heartbroken. If I'd just lost my gran (who I hadn't seen as much as I could have done) then the reason I'd be heartbroken would be her loss not because my uniform is the same as it was the last time I wore it. Hmm

KentuckyDerbyandJoan · 18/09/2022 15:26

GoingOnce · 18/09/2022 12:11

Indeed. Who leaked this? What was their motive? Literally no-one would ever have noticed.

This

Pengwinn · 18/09/2022 15:27

Roussette · 18/09/2022 15:07

Does that matter? He knew.

He should also know then why it wasn't present on his uniform. Or does he expect to keep receiving exemptions to protocol from daddy?

OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle · 18/09/2022 15:27

It strikes me that the person who this story came from originally may be an individual with a eye for detail, a keen sense of persecution, the ability to influence Prince Harry to feel aggrieved and absolutely no understanding (or will to understand) about British protocol.

Gosh. Who could that be?

BasiliskStare · 18/09/2022 15:28

Just to say for all those and their spouses who were not allowed to wear their uniform - I do feel for you - My niece was not allowed to wear hers. . But I do hold to this is something of a family event & this is why if HMTQ or KC asked for them to be allowed to wear those for two days well I can't get too worked up. As long as that it it and no further. I do not know Harry but he and his wife do seem to be somewhat petulant & they & their spokespeople don't seem to say anything positive.

Anyway let H&M do what they must to maintain their lifestyle , preferably not just doing it by knocking down the RF with half truths or even untruths , not sure they have anything else to offer but hey ho ( & I don't wish any family with young children ill ) but let us not see anything else of PA.

I do think though that tomorrow whether anyone is a republican or not bothered about the RF or likes them - It should be a time for a woman who spent 70 years doing things she probably did not want to . But did . So M&H are a sideshow. Not the main event

Zoom101 · 18/09/2022 15:28

REP22 · 18/09/2022 14:54

@Zoom101 "ER" means Elizabeth Regina (Elizabeth Regina). She no longer does - the uniforms should all read CR. Maybe it's as simple as that they were the ones who realised and no CR equivalent insignia are available yet.

@REP22 thank you although I would have thought that, given the Queen’s age the new CR initials would have been ready to be sewn on; it’s not as if they wouldn’t have staff to do that!

Obviously it is correct that Harry didn’t have the ER on his uniform but it will just give H&M more ammunition unless they finally learn not to tell tales when they back to the States (which I very much doubt).

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Pengwinn · 18/09/2022 15:30

They shouldn't pander to them though in case they run off and sell stories about it, that's pathetic.

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