Removing E:R from Harry’s Uniform

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I am certainly not one of H&M’s fans but I think that for someone to actually remove the ER initials from his military uniform for the vigil was beyond petty.

The decision was made to allow him to wear a military uniform, fine, Andrew was also given permission but to take the time and trouble to remove the Queen’s initials from the epaulettes was, I think, really childish. I know he has chosen to not be a working Royal but the initals were left on Andrew’s epaulettes so why were Harry’s removed?

Apart from anything else, this will just add grist to the mill of H&M’s litany of complaints but for once, I think they’d be justified in being upset by this.

Expect I’ll be flamed for this and there are many more important things going on in the world but I do think this was a snotty thing to do to Harry.

@caringcarer

'The Queen took ADC from Harry but not Andrew'

This is the only thing of significance that you said . And it says it all .

Let's not forget Harry turned down an invitation from the Query to visit her for a sleepover at Balmoral with Meghan less than 2 weeks before her death. If you love someone you make time for them. They had a day off on their schedule but could not be bothered.

I might be missing something, but it was the queen who stripped him of his titles.
So technically Charles is going against her wishes by letting him wear the uniform.
Presumably because that’s his son and he loves him.

Doesn’t seem petty or spiteful at all, the opposite in fact.

The RF is turning (has turned?) into a soap opera of manic proportions for the weary masses.

thank you for the explanation. However I'm sure the truth won't get in the way of a good story

As far as I’m aware, King Charles has not granted him permission to wear the military uniform to the funeral, only for the vigil. I don’t understand this response.

It’s all absolutely pathetic.

We all know the protocol explanation, but they change protocol when they want to.
It is petty and all about highlighting him as less favoured.
Andrew of course is still favoured.

This is it isn't it ? Who knows if Harry even cares or if it just made up completely. The media just dont stop with it all. Of course then everyone comments with anecdote and personal opinion, and with reference to Palace Insiders etc. It's getting out of hand.

I'm far from a monarchist but of all times you'd think now would be a good time to give it a rest and for people to think critically before responding to the tripe that abounds.

The rule for many though seems to be, call everything false news that is critical about the Royal Family unless it is Harry and Meghan. Then suddenly everything is true.
In reality the press did not even know that they were visiting the Queen in private a few months back until after they had been. They know nothing.

The stupidity of people on this thread who genuinely think Harry was been complaining to the Daily Mail about this.

Do you really hate H&M that much that you have lost all sense of logic?

Who told the Press? Answers on a postcard please. Whatever has or has not happened during the last 10 days it will be twisted and spat out once they're back in the States and there are those who will lap it up!

I suspect that is the point, don’t you? The Daily Mail hate him and Meghan since she won the libel trial against them.

This “friend” almost certainly doesn’t exist (what actual friend of Meghan’s going to speak to the Mail?) It’s just the DM making stuff up, as usual, to sell papers/manufacture some controversy.

Agree in essence.

But it removed that status of the male line lining them up as important and not so important. If Harry had have had older sisters it would be interesting to see if he'd have still acted the same way. Or how they would have acted.

I feel for them all with this birth place putting them in a pecking order from the moment they are born.

I round it really interesting how during the jubilee it was Louis behaviour that was scrutinised. If the order hadn't been changed it would always have been Charlotte as the lowest one.

Plus the youngest two Cambridges (or are the Wales now?) still currently have their mother around and also each other.

From age 12 Harry was the spare in his family unit of 3. And I think that will have shaped some of the recent decisions he's made and his feelings he's felt the past decade or so as he's distanced himself.

I also suspect that his grandfathers death was a pivotal point in his feelings developing too.

Hes not entitled to wear the epsulettes or the uniform. He was able to wear a uniform he's no longer allowed to instead of him being happy with that, the main thing everyone sees, he still has to bloody complain.

Excellent points.

He seems to always want things both ways.

Thank you. Horrible woman for not looking after the child she controls. What a narcissist traits I must say.

Agree with this.

Equally some could say the point is to show how petty the RF are still being to Harry, even using his grandmothers funeral to stick the boot it.

I think whoever leaked it is an evil genius tbh.
Just enough it will cause tongues wagging, and yet not enough info, so each ‘side’ believes they are validated by it.

And both sides have fallen for it

I do think Charles is starting to realise the impact of Harry being born second best and growing up in a household of heirs.

I think Charles looks more comfortable meeting and greeting than he does on official protocol so I'm hoping we'll see real change away from solely protocol and some emotion from the RF!

@Zoom101 "ER" means Elizabeth Regina (Elizabeth Regina). She no longer does - the uniforms should all read CR. Maybe it's as simple as that they were the ones who realised and no CR equivalent insignia are available yet.

*I meant (Elizabeth Reigns).

Sick of Harry trying to make everything about him

Sickened by Andrew being retained by mummy as her ADC, given what he's clearly done as Epstein's ADC.

Ach - I don't know but according to protocols , I reckon H&M have been given a lot of olive branches here - so my view would be - (whether they have or not ) - don't whinge.

I think HMTQ specifically asked that Andrew could wear that uniform once only & then he retires

Very hard when your mother's funeral is not only a family event but a national one.

When this is all over I hope H&M go back to the life they wanted and realise they were treated very respectfully by Harry's family and stop using the RF as their meal ticket & I do hope Andrew retreats into obscurity

Sounds like they were just following protocol, not snubbing Harry. It might seem petty, but military tend to follow rules to the letter.