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Will Charles attempt to bring H&M back?

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EdieLedwell · 17/09/2022 18:47

I've been wondering about this all week.

What do people think? Would William want that ? Would Kate?

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Ohnonevermind · 19/09/2022 20:56

They should have asked Oprah for some cash on the back of the money she made from their interview if they were broke

im in my forties and would be mortified to go begging to my parents especially if I was flying over to ask in a private jet

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 20:58

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 19:46

Unfortunately when it comes to these situations much depends on the attitude of the new wife.

Sometimes the new wife highlights the bad treatment from a family her partner has got used to.

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 20:59

I do not think Harry would ever come back.

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:02

My thinking is that he knew exactly how their financial situation was, how money is dealt with, after all he had been responsible for it forever.

I agree with you there. Their financial situation is that they are multimillionaires and don’t need the money. Charles knows how much Harry got from Diana (which was kept in trust until he turned 25 I believe) and from the Queen Mother (who reportedly gave none to William). I’m not talking “winning the lottery” levels of money, it’ll be ten times that. If that money isn’t enough to live in the same way that Harry has previously lived then that is a choice he made when quitting the exceptionally well-paid job. I don’t blame him for quitting, but he’s still in a vastly privileged position compared to 99.9% of the country so hearing the “poor Harry” narrative sets my teeth on edge.

H&M have also said that it isn’t about the money regarding security. They want to be able to pay for the same standard of security which is offered to high risk targets for free. But that isn’t how it works. You can pay for private security (for peace of mind), and if the threat is considered significant (by the security services) you get a higher standard of security and don’t pay for it. We can’t feasibly have people demanding the higher level protection based on their own feelings. And the security services are not, and must not become, a service you pay for if you’re rich enough.

As I said at the beginning, I’m only and “ish” supporter of the monarchy. And paying for high level security for people who don’t need it would piss me right off. As would the monarch personally supporting vastly wealthy people who chose to walk away from service to the country. So I’m personally glad that Charles has neither overruled the security services regarding Harry’s security status, nor offered to keep funding Harry.

RandomPenguinHouse · 19/09/2022 21:05

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:02

My thinking is that he knew exactly how their financial situation was, how money is dealt with, after all he had been responsible for it forever.

I agree with you there. Their financial situation is that they are multimillionaires and don’t need the money. Charles knows how much Harry got from Diana (which was kept in trust until he turned 25 I believe) and from the Queen Mother (who reportedly gave none to William). I’m not talking “winning the lottery” levels of money, it’ll be ten times that. If that money isn’t enough to live in the same way that Harry has previously lived then that is a choice he made when quitting the exceptionally well-paid job. I don’t blame him for quitting, but he’s still in a vastly privileged position compared to 99.9% of the country so hearing the “poor Harry” narrative sets my teeth on edge.

H&M have also said that it isn’t about the money regarding security. They want to be able to pay for the same standard of security which is offered to high risk targets for free. But that isn’t how it works. You can pay for private security (for peace of mind), and if the threat is considered significant (by the security services) you get a higher standard of security and don’t pay for it. We can’t feasibly have people demanding the higher level protection based on their own feelings. And the security services are not, and must not become, a service you pay for if you’re rich enough.

As I said at the beginning, I’m only and “ish” supporter of the monarchy. And paying for high level security for people who don’t need it would piss me right off. As would the monarch personally supporting vastly wealthy people who chose to walk away from service to the country. So I’m personally glad that Charles has neither overruled the security services regarding Harry’s security status, nor offered to keep funding Harry.

Brilliant post.

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 21:05

Btw does Andrew get security?

As recent as last month, reports were that we are paying, yes.

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Capri3 · 19/09/2022 21:06

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 15:51

Okay they were invited. Can you think why they might have declined an invite from the Queen to join Charles and William?
In their case I would have declined it too.

And in August 2019 Archie was only three months old. How many MN mothers would have flown from America to Scotland to spend a holiday with their in-laws with a three-month-old baby?

The Queen was always in Balmoral for a few months over the summer and would invite guests over that time, so no reason for H&M to be there at the same time as W&K.

H&M were living in the UK in August 2019, not the US, so Balmoral wasn’t that far away.

MaulPerton · 19/09/2022 21:07

the whole thing about Oprah was to clarify what took place, and how relations got frosty

Who was seeking the clarification and why did they take it upon themselves to issue it?

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:12

As recent as last month, reports were that we are paying, yes.

Unless deemed necessary by the security services I strongly disagree with that decision. I sincerely hope that Charles can see that this was a poor decision and reverse it.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 19/09/2022 21:17

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:02

My thinking is that he knew exactly how their financial situation was, how money is dealt with, after all he had been responsible for it forever.

I agree with you there. Their financial situation is that they are multimillionaires and don’t need the money. Charles knows how much Harry got from Diana (which was kept in trust until he turned 25 I believe) and from the Queen Mother (who reportedly gave none to William). I’m not talking “winning the lottery” levels of money, it’ll be ten times that. If that money isn’t enough to live in the same way that Harry has previously lived then that is a choice he made when quitting the exceptionally well-paid job. I don’t blame him for quitting, but he’s still in a vastly privileged position compared to 99.9% of the country so hearing the “poor Harry” narrative sets my teeth on edge.

H&M have also said that it isn’t about the money regarding security. They want to be able to pay for the same standard of security which is offered to high risk targets for free. But that isn’t how it works. You can pay for private security (for peace of mind), and if the threat is considered significant (by the security services) you get a higher standard of security and don’t pay for it. We can’t feasibly have people demanding the higher level protection based on their own feelings. And the security services are not, and must not become, a service you pay for if you’re rich enough.

As I said at the beginning, I’m only and “ish” supporter of the monarchy. And paying for high level security for people who don’t need it would piss me right off. As would the monarch personally supporting vastly wealthy people who chose to walk away from service to the country. So I’m personally glad that Charles has neither overruled the security services regarding Harry’s security status, nor offered to keep funding Harry.

Agree whole heartedly.

RandomPenguinHouse · 19/09/2022 21:20

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:12

As recent as last month, reports were that we are paying, yes.

Unless deemed necessary by the security services I strongly disagree with that decision. I sincerely hope that Charles can see that this was a poor decision and reverse it.

In the links provided it said it was the Executive Committee that deals with the protection security of royals that made the decision. (I can’t remember name from top of my head).

So yes it would have been necessary by the security services. I don’t like it either but it’s done on a needs basis.

I suspect the more of a predatory prick you are, the greater your consequent need for personal protection.

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 21:22

Who si on the Executive Committee?

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:30

I suspect the more of a predatory prick you are, the greater your consequent need for personal protection.

Quite possibly. This is one of those times it may be necessary to contribute towards protection of someone I really loathe because the alternative (protection based on how well liked you are) is unacceptable.

CaptainBarbosa · 19/09/2022 21:36

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:30

I suspect the more of a predatory prick you are, the greater your consequent need for personal protection.

Quite possibly. This is one of those times it may be necessary to contribute towards protection of someone I really loathe because the alternative (protection based on how well liked you are) is unacceptable.

Indeed, I'd imagine many a people would like to smack Andrew in the face 😂

Many SO's have public protection officers, now you probably think that's to keep the public safe from them 100% of the time, but I can assure you a lot of their work is to keep them safe from the public. Things like safe against vigilanty violence, their address being published on social media, the SO being stalked and harassed.

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 21:39

Indeed, I'd imagine many a people would like to smack Andrew in the face

I probably wouldn’t go that far (I’ve never hit anyone in my life). But given the chance I’d probably chuck a milkshake over him 😂

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 21:44

Agasht that we are paying for vile Andrew!!

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 21:46

Andrew can Down sizes to a smaller home ? More beffitting of his fallen status? Adelaide cottage? Easier to pay for security.

He can down size to less flashy showy cars.

Ohnonevermind · 19/09/2022 21:52

@elizaregina

I’m sure Charles has something more fitting I.
mind 😉

queenofarles · 19/09/2022 21:58

but I don’t think Harry’s money from both his Mother and The Queen Mother is enough to bank roll his current expenses, security alone must be close to $1M if not more , then there is the house plus other expenses and their Agents fees , all and all it’s it’s probably close to $7M a year.

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 21:59

@antelopevalley I was thinking more of Camilla and Harry rather than Megan and Harry.

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 22:01

Hopefully the queen has sorted Harry out.

RandomPenguinHouse · 19/09/2022 22:01

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 21:22

Who si on the Executive Committee?

Curious you ask this. It’s one of the Qs Harry was trying to find out in his Judicial Review, he asked who the members were.

Its made up of representatives from the Home Office, Met Police, Buckingham Palace and sometimes also the security services.

I’m going to assume that on the whole they make reasonable decisions.

I am certainly not on the committee, but I can a few sensible reasons why they granted Andrew continued security and not Harry for when he comes to the U.K. eg much easier to plan to attack someone if you know where they’re going to be most of the time, as opposed to for a week.

Ohnonevermind · 19/09/2022 22:03

@queenofarles

very few people in Hollywood can afford to live such an expensive lifestyle either.

DoingJustFine · 19/09/2022 22:06

There's a big H&M in Bracknell, if Charles wants it. Not far from Windsor.

queenofarles · 19/09/2022 22:12

very few people in Hollywood can afford to live such an expensive lifestyle either. and those who can, have had decades to build their wealth.

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