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Will Charles attempt to bring H&M back?

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EdieLedwell · 17/09/2022 18:47

I've been wondering about this all week.

What do people think? Would William want that ? Would Kate?

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notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 19:16

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 19/09/2022 19:01

@notanotheroneagain Why should KC not give his lover and wife his money? Why does his 36 yo have anymore claim. It's KC's money, he gets to choose what he does with it. Harry had a very generous allowance whilst he was working, now he isn't. Tough shit.

He can give his mistress money, as well as her relatives and make sure her kids are covered and she has security.

Where is his moral compass with his grandson and making sure he is ok. He was not taking Harry's calls. He could have asked him, is all ok, is A fine? He knows what shite is happening around him and the media focus etc. Any parent would show concern. How much have you got on you. What did you do with the money we gave you last year, what did you spend it on.

It seems it's just me who would be concerned about my ds and family and how they are getting on.🤷‍♀️
I tell you what though, Tyler Perry makes a better father.
But, hey ho, Charles makes a great boyfriend.

I also wonder, how quickly H could access Diana's money. Or any money. How much was he getting exactly from Charles.

This is why I hope the book covers everything.

derxa · 19/09/2022 19:18

Anyway, all will be clarified in court and why the book is needed. Bring it all on. Books, court appearances and interviews have brought nothing but misery for members of the royal family in the past. The Queen did none of them.

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 19:20

@notanotheroneagain

Where are you getting all this stuff about Charles/Camilla/her DC etc.

SallyLockheart · 19/09/2022 19:20

Notanother. you do realise that Harry is a grown up, don't you. He choose to leave and so is responsible for his decision, fiscal and otherwise

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 19:21

they did no working royal duties in that year.

They most certainly did. From calculations, even more than other royals.

security. they wanted to be IPPs without thinking it through that as non- working royals they wouldn't qualify. Under their half in/half out option, they may well have qualified for ongoing security but not in the final deal.

And why was this issue left out of the summit?

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 19:22

Again.

How can Harry choose to leave the actual blood flowing through his veins?

He's been bang behind the coffin on every march? He is the king's son?
One of the richest nation's on earth. Apparently a huge % of the planet watched this today.
How can he just leave it?

Hearthnhome · 19/09/2022 19:23

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 19:06

I think it was the principle of it all.

Firstly, H&M were given a 1 year to think about it. What was this? As far as I could tell, it was a Gardening Leave - which is normal in high ranking jobs and stipulates that you must be paid your full salary and benefits. H&M did their job that year, due to covid it was zoom calls, just like other royals. Why did the firm then not say, what are you doing contacting your old charities, you are completely out.

Harry said he never thought security would be taken from him. Why was it not clarified at the summit which category he falls into. He obviously thought his proximity to HMQ and Charles qualified him for category1.

Anyway, all will be clarified in court and why the book is needed.

What?

Their last Royal engagement was in march 2020.

They weren’t given a year gardening leave. I think they were given a year where they could choose to return. That’s not gardening leave.

He was financially subsidised until the end of quarter 1 of the financial year, so June. Could have been quarter 2.

Gardening leave in high ranking jobs is for a specific purpose. It’s not a perk so you can sit around thinking about wether you want the new job or old job. Or trying out your new life for a bit.

The fact that Harry, a grown man, didn’t understand what security he would get is unbelievable. How could he have thought they would be flying out teams of met officers on rolling duties for them all when they aren’t working Royals.

It appears Harry’s, lack of knowledge on how the RF works has led to a lot of problems.

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 19:23

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 19:20

@notanotheroneagain

Where are you getting all this stuff about Charles/Camilla/her DC etc.

I linked it all on here a few pages back.

It was very much publicised. Later in biographies.

diddl · 19/09/2022 19:24

I also wonder, how quickly H could access Diana's money.

Maybe he should have thought about that before he left?

Maybe that's why Charles funded him for a while?

Meghan has millions doesn't she?

Hearthnhome · 19/09/2022 19:25

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 19:21

they did no working royal duties in that year.

They most certainly did. From calculations, even more than other royals.

security. they wanted to be IPPs without thinking it through that as non- working royals they wouldn't qualify. Under their half in/half out option, they may well have qualified for ongoing security but not in the final deal.

And why was this issue left out of the summit?

Only Harry can answer why security is something he thinks of as a basic need for his child…..and forgot to cover it.

He wasn’t a child. He was a man in his mid 30s.

Cameleongirl · 19/09/2022 19:28

He could have asked him, is all ok, is A fine? He knows what shite is happening around him and the media focus etc. Any parent would show concern. How much have you got on you. What did you do with the money we gave you last year, what did you spend it on.

@notanotheroneagain I appreciate that different families do things different ways, but neither my Dad nor my IL's have any idea about our finances, our job stresses, etc. Adults couples generally deal with all that themselves, don't they?

Cameleongirl · 19/09/2022 19:30

It appears Harry’s lack of knowledge on how the RF works has led to a lot of problems.

I agree, @Hearthnhome.

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 19:34

These are stresses he endures purely by dint of being born a high royal .

I've scrolled back and seen one article re Charles being sympathetic to Tom Parker bowles, apparently a cocaine and gambling issues?

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 19:38

They are a dysfunctional family.
And most parents would check their adult children are okay. You do not stope being a parent just because they are grown up.

diddl · 19/09/2022 19:40

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 19:38

They are a dysfunctional family.
And most parents would check their adult children are okay. You do not stope being a parent just because they are grown up.

Being a parent doesn't necessarily mean bankrolling adults who have millions between them though?

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 19:44

diddl · 19/09/2022 19:40

Being a parent doesn't necessarily mean bankrolling adults who have millions between them though?

And yet he was fine bankrolling rich PB adults.

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 19:45

Being the prince of Wales making sure your son who had no choice in his birth.
.yes.

An normal parent.... not necessarily! ..this is an extraordinary situation,how can one compare?

CornishGem1975 · 19/09/2022 19:46

I don't particularly like how H&M have conducted themselves over recent years but I do hope that the family reunites. When Meghan joined the Royal family, I thought it was great, that she would bring something modern to the table and be a breath of fresh air as a couple. I still think they can do that.

I am a big fan of William and Catherine but their roles are very different. I think H&M can add a lot but there needs to be a lot of wounds healed first.

elizaregina · 19/09/2022 19:46

Unfortunately when it comes to these situations much depends on the attitude of the new wife.

Travellingwomble · 19/09/2022 19:47

My bet is that H and M will be on the first flight back to the USA. I just think its all very sad. I'm sure there's rights and wrongs both sides.

Have to say I'm beginning to feel a bit nauseous about all the recent headlines...K and W all good ..W a leader, K all benevolent. H and M all bad, can do nothing right, ever, for any reason. No sense of any balance whatsoever.

MarshaBradyo · 19/09/2022 19:48

No I doubt it

Hearthnhome · 19/09/2022 19:48

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 19:38

They are a dysfunctional family.
And most parents would check their adult children are okay. You do not stope being a parent just because they are grown up.

They were ok.

They were financed until the middle of the calendar year.

He also had his inheritance from his mother and (I believe his great grandmother) that had been invested since he was small and would have grown considerably.

They finalised the deal with Netflix in September. Which will have taken months of negotiations.

Maybe, as a father Harry should have understood his position better and budgeted his millions better.

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 19:50

Cameleongirl · 19/09/2022 19:30

It appears Harry’s lack of knowledge on how the RF works has led to a lot of problems.

I agree, @Hearthnhome.

Posters keep pretending that H, who was in the middle of the RF all his life, does not know anything about it. You think you know better than someone who was there?

Even us, as a public know that rules are bent and feet put down for the welfare of others eg. Camilla and Andrew.

H&M simply resigned, after asking not to. Yet, are treated more heavy handedly than destroyers of a marriage and those accused of sex offences.
Even if he did not agree with H, was he not wondering about A?

diddl · 19/09/2022 19:50

And yet he was fine bankrolling rich PB adults.

He has also bank rolled his rich adult sons!

Wasn't one of the things H&M wanted to achieve was financial independence?

FacebookPhotos · 19/09/2022 19:55

notanotheroneagain · 19/09/2022 18:59

Harry inherited millions from his mother and other family members. I'm a supporter (ish) of monarchy, but only those who are working royals. I'd be fuming if Charles was continuing to fund those who have walked away from service to the country.

Yet you had no problem with him supporting his then girlfriend Camilla (who at the time had never done any work for the country or crown at all). But you have a problem with him supporting his son.

And you know very well they asked to continue the service, but without taking from the taxpayer and were told to sod off.

Camilla has been his wife for almost all of my tax-paying life, meaning she’s a working royal. So no, I’ve no problem with him providing for her. And if he has made provision for her children from him private wealth (as opposed to money from the civil list) then I’d rather he hadn’t, and it needs to stop now that Charles is king.

As I said, Harry has a great deal of private wealth. If he’s spent it all (or is worried about spending it all) on a lavish lifestyle then that’s on him. He wanted half in / half out. The queen (rightly imo) said no to that option. He was given a year to be sure that he really wanted out. He wanted out. Good luck to him, and I genuinely hope he is happy. But I don’t think it is anyone’s responsibility to provide for him.

As for the “but it’s his son” nonsense - Harry is a little older than me. He’s not a child, nor even a student or young adult. I’d be insulted by any suggestion that I needed my parents to fund my lifestyle, and I’ve little sympathy for those who expect their parents to pay for them way into their 30s. Old enough to quit a well-paying job, get married and have children means being old enough to pay for yourself.

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