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The royal family

Charles and that “bloody” pen

327 replies

nonono1 · 13/09/2022 21:21

The clip of Charles with the leaking pen is an interesting insight into how the royals behave and how they are treated by their seemingly very obsequious staff. Is Charles’ behaviour reasonable or do you think he’s kicking up an unnecessary fuss? Interested to hear other people’s perspectives really because I’ve never seen a clip like this before.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11206531/King-Charles-III-awkward-moment-pen.html

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derxa · 14/09/2022 10:28

Roussette · 14/09/2022 06:12

I agree with this. But, I found it worse when he was signing the King's Proclamation or whatever it was... and he was really irritable and annoyed that there was an inkwell in the way of a piece of paper and was flapping his hands at servants to move it 4 inches. He wouldn't move it himself. His face at the end of this skirmish was pure anger. All I hope is, this is just stress and not a sign of things to come.

I honestly think these people have so much deference all the time by strings of servants, they aren't able to cope with picking an object up and move it a couple of inches

Harry should be King instead😆

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 10:30

PollyPolo · 14/09/2022 09:44

Exactly. I found my daughter's new school jumper covered in leaky pen after just two days. I was not happy, another £30.00 down the drain as it won't come off.

Soak it in milk?

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 10:34

I bet the pen will work in Wales!

He and Camilla must be absolutely knackered - physically and mentally. They left Buckingham Palace shortly after the Queen arrived yesterday, so I hope that they at least had/have a quiet evening and morning at Clarence House, before today's events.

millerpie · 14/09/2022 10:47

Grief is absolutely exhausting. He wasn’t rude to anyone he was venting about a leaking pen.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 11:09

He lacks the decorum the Queen had.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 11:17

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 11:09

He lacks the decorum the Queen had.

Careful @antelopevalley - this post could be interpreted as you saying something positive about a member of the Royal Family! Grin

ginghamstarfish · 14/09/2022 11:22

Whoever put this out in the public eye is a scumbag. The poor man, whatever your thoughts are on the monarchy, is dealing with something unprecedented, being watched by the whole world while going through all the many (mostly very tedious I imagine) protocols, while grieving for his mother. What about all the things he's done right?

Novella4 · 14/09/2022 11:24

I thought it was live on sky news

BlueThingie · 14/09/2022 11:25

He's grieving and exhausted. OTOH he's always been quite tetchy. Hope people stop posting videos of everything he does at some point.

Shortandfurry301 · 14/09/2022 11:30

Mmmm, I understand the pressure he is under, and I am very sympathetic about that, but most of us have to do admin and document signing after the death of a parent and manage not to be rude or dismissive to the staff involved. Also, he did that while on camera, so heaven knows what his behaviour is like in private!

Also, they have just announced job losses at Clarence House! The timing seems awfully cack-handed. Couldn’t they have waited until after the funeral?

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 11:33

Am I watching a different clip because YES he's pissed off with the ink pot but he doesn't raise his voice, he doesn't tell any one off, he vents at hating ink pots, and he leaves to presumably get changed. Off course he's annoyed. Go in, sign it, move in. Instead he's done the wrong date, and earlier on something else and now he has to get changed.

derxa · 14/09/2022 11:49

Also, they have just announced job losses at Clarence House! The timing seems awfully cack-handed. Couldn’t they have waited until after the funeral? A former member of the Queen's household explained this. Their contracts are with a particular member of the royal family. The Queen is dead so the contract with her is over.

goldenlilliesdaffodillies · 14/09/2022 11:52

I see a grieving man who has recently lost both parents. He has the weight of history on his shoulders and is trying his best to fulfil a gruelling, punishing schedule in record time. I really don't know how both he and Camilla at their ages are managing to keep going under the full glare of TV camera's and mobile phones. It is relentless. They must be utterly exhausted.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 11:52

@derxa They are making people redundant in Charles household staff.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 11:56

I lost both my parents in a car accident, they were relatively young. I had to do a lot of paperwork. I had to deal with obstructive call staff when doing some of this. Not once did I get annoyed, over much bigger issues than a leaking pen, although I did cry on one occasion.
People's true personality shows in times of stress. He is easily irritated.
I too think there will be many more incidents like this.

JustLyra · 14/09/2022 12:06

Shortandfurry301 · 14/09/2022 11:30

Mmmm, I understand the pressure he is under, and I am very sympathetic about that, but most of us have to do admin and document signing after the death of a parent and manage not to be rude or dismissive to the staff involved. Also, he did that while on camera, so heaven knows what his behaviour is like in private!

Also, they have just announced job losses at Clarence House! The timing seems awfully cack-handed. Couldn’t they have waited until after the funeral?

They haven’t announced job losses. They’ve announced that certain roles are at risk of redundancy.

this always happens when a royal dies and people move up a position.

The whole “staff are in shock” is utter bollocks because royal staff know this happens. If you’re the Prince of Wales staff and he becomes King you know there’s going to be shuffling around because he doesn’t need his household staff and all of the Queen’s household staff as well.

Most will simply be shuffled round to work for someone else as most roles will still need covered, but some in his household, and in the Queen’s, will leave. It’s how it works and everyone knows that.

derxa · 14/09/2022 12:10

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 11:52

@derxa They are making people redundant in Charles household staff.

I explained it badly. Prince Charles is now King Charles and must form a group of staff at Buckingham Palace. The Clarence House staff are now officially redundant. No doubt there will be all sorts of shuffling going on. Do you want the monarchy to cost more or less?

NashvilleQueen · 14/09/2022 12:10

I quite like how it exposed that despite all the tears in training he's not yet got the 'polish' of his mother not to let things slip when 'on'. I'm sure that will come in time but for the moment given the schedule he's been living for almost a week I think I can cut him some slack.

Also I swear like a fucker at inanimate objects in frustration. But never people. It was a human reaction in the moment and it's fine.

derxa · 14/09/2022 12:12

JustLyra · 14/09/2022 12:06

They haven’t announced job losses. They’ve announced that certain roles are at risk of redundancy.

this always happens when a royal dies and people move up a position.

The whole “staff are in shock” is utter bollocks because royal staff know this happens. If you’re the Prince of Wales staff and he becomes King you know there’s going to be shuffling around because he doesn’t need his household staff and all of the Queen’s household staff as well.

Most will simply be shuffled round to work for someone else as most roles will still need covered, but some in his household, and in the Queen’s, will leave. It’s how it works and everyone knows that.

Thanks for explaining much better than I did🙂

NashvilleQueen · 14/09/2022 12:14

His face at the end of this skirmish was pure anger.

Not how I saw it.

Imagine the weight of the world's eyes on you at a moment of historic importance. Not just people in the room but across the globe. Think about what he's signing. Not any old official document but something of the highest constitutional significance. Have you never seen people under stress over react? And that's aside from him just losing his mother a year after losing his father.

workinmums · 14/09/2022 12:15

He's a grumpy old man and he's got anger issues. For you to be that annoyed at a pen is ridiculous. Anyone that can't see that is either blind or pretending to be blind.

workinmums · 14/09/2022 12:16

And the way he speaks to staff is disgusting...

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 14/09/2022 12:17

workinmums · 14/09/2022 12:15

He's a grumpy old man and he's got anger issues. For you to be that annoyed at a pen is ridiculous. Anyone that can't see that is either blind or pretending to be blind.

It is you who is blind.

Do you not think the last week has been absolutely fucking horrendous for him?

So he swore a bit about a pen leaking on him. Never heard of the straw that broke the camels back before?

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:18

derxa · 14/09/2022 12:12

Thanks for explaining much better than I did🙂

That is what staff thought would happen. They have been told it will not and most of Charles existing staff will lose their jobs. Read the actual articles about this.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:19

NashvilleQueen · 14/09/2022 12:14

His face at the end of this skirmish was pure anger.

Not how I saw it.

Imagine the weight of the world's eyes on you at a moment of historic importance. Not just people in the room but across the globe. Think about what he's signing. Not any old official document but something of the highest constitutional significance. Have you never seen people under stress over react? And that's aside from him just losing his mother a year after losing his father.

Signing a document as other people watch is not stressful.