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Charles and that “bloody” pen

327 replies

nonono1 · 13/09/2022 21:21

The clip of Charles with the leaking pen is an interesting insight into how the royals behave and how they are treated by their seemingly very obsequious staff. Is Charles’ behaviour reasonable or do you think he’s kicking up an unnecessary fuss? Interested to hear other people’s perspectives really because I’ve never seen a clip like this before.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11206531/King-Charles-III-awkward-moment-pen.html

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antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:21

derxa · 14/09/2022 12:10

I explained it badly. Prince Charles is now King Charles and must form a group of staff at Buckingham Palace. The Clarence House staff are now officially redundant. No doubt there will be all sorts of shuffling going on. Do you want the monarchy to cost more or less?

People have to be made redundant. What shocks people is that this is happening while the official mourning period is happening. The Queen's funeral has not even happened yet.
Charles just wants to save himself a few extra weeks staff wages so he can have it in his pocket. He is not showing any respect at all.

workinmums · 14/09/2022 12:21

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 14/09/2022 12:17

It is you who is blind.

Do you not think the last week has been absolutely fucking horrendous for him?

So he swore a bit about a pen leaking on him. Never heard of the straw that broke the camels back before?

Oh please. People have gone through worse and still manage to be decent human being. Miss me with that bull shit please.

derxa · 14/09/2022 12:29

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:18

That is what staff thought would happen. They have been told it will not and most of Charles existing staff will lose their jobs. Read the actual articles about this.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62897488
Here you are. A sensible account of events.

Roussette · 14/09/2022 12:29

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:18

That is what staff thought would happen. They have been told it will not and most of Charles existing staff will lose their jobs. Read the actual articles about this.

As I understand it, Highgrove is going to become the Clarence House and he will work from gloucestershire
Hence the redundancies

He signalled this intention a year or two ago

FuckThisForAGameOfNotSoldiers · 14/09/2022 12:33

Honeyroar · 13/09/2022 22:11

My dad’s dying at the moment. If I had to go out and do everything he’s having to do, without showing any emotion, I’d fail miserably. I think he’s doing remarkably well.

Flowers
beachcitygirl · 14/09/2022 12:48

StressfulBedtimes · 13/09/2022 21:39

His mother died
He has had a camera in his face and his every move scrutinised all day every day since
He’s flying back and forth all over the place and waving and shaking hands with strangers all day
He’s having to take part in ceremony after ceremony and sign paper after paper at a time he should be grieving
He isn’t allowed to cry or show anything but stoicism days after watching his mother die and being surrounded by it constantly since
He’s 73
So yeah I think a pen leaking on me would’ve tipped me over the edge too if I were him
Poor man should be at home crying and going over old photo albums in his comfies surrounded by the people he loves right now
I hope he signs the next thing in biro

Nothing stopping him doing all those thjngs. He is literally the king. He can do as he damm well pleases and/or abdicate

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:52

He could cry, people would be very sympathetic to him.
You do know many ordinary people can not be at home crying over photos after a parent dies?

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 13:04

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:19

Signing a document as other people watch is not stressful.

Signing a very important document with the wring date, having your wife point out you've dine it wrong earlier, the pen leaking over you, needing to get changed and having all that recorded and shown across the world at the end of a few exhausting days following the death of your Mom might be tho.

The way one of his aids touches his shoulder after he blasts the pen (subtitles don't show any swear words so unclear what swearing he does) to me showed a tenderness of understanding not oh fuck he's off again, wonder who he'll scream at today.

It's great that some people here have never blamed an inanimate object for intentionally being an arse, and have never once lost their temper under extreme pressure. It doesn't actually make you a superior human.

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 13:05

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:52

He could cry, people would be very sympathetic to him.
You do know many ordinary people can not be at home crying over photos after a parent dies?

If he burst into tears over a pen he'd be lambasted for not being as stoic or string as the Queen.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:07

No one is talking about bursting into tears. But sitting as the pen leaks and a few tears falling would have garnered him sympathy.
Instead his first reaction always is anger.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 13:12

The total lack of empathy from some people on this thread totally astounds me. You must be hollow shells not to have any sympathy for what he is dealing with at the moment.

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 13:13

workinmums · 14/09/2022 12:21

Oh please. People have gone through worse and still manage to be decent human being. Miss me with that bull shit please.

What can you see in the video that I can't where he is stops being a "decent human being"? When he moans about his pen? When he let's his wife finish his task because the pens leaked on him and he can't afford to make a mess on the document? Where he is guided out by one of his staff and he obliging moves? Who does he swear or shout at? Where's the alleged temper tantrum?

derxa · 14/09/2022 13:15

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:07

No one is talking about bursting into tears. But sitting as the pen leaks and a few tears falling would have garnered him sympathy.
Instead his first reaction always is anger.

oh my God

Sparkletastic · 14/09/2022 13:16

He needs more media training.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:17

Sparkletastic · 14/09/2022 13:16

He needs more media training.

He has only been preparing all his life to be King. If he needs more training at 73, then god help him.

Notonthestairs · 14/09/2022 13:20

Good grief. Recently bereaved man gets hacked off at pen mishap. Is this the best you can do?

If cameras had been following my every move after my mother died I'd dread to think what they would have uncovered.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:26

@Notonthestairs My parents both died unexpectedly in a car accident this year. If a camera had followed me around while I arranged everything after they had died all it would have caught was me looking numb and at times being tearful.

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 13:26

derxa · 14/09/2022 13:15

oh my God

Exactly. It sounds theatrically stage managed.

"The new King wept three singular tears today as, covered in ink, he sat resolutely in his chair leaving inky marks over the document rather than going to get cleaned up and letting someone help fix the issue. We salute you King, as you show you still steadfastly to your seat and show only a correct and considered amount of emotion"

I mean he got up cos he's got ink all over him, he needs to get cleaned up and sticking his hand in the air and demanded someone bring forth a baby wipe would be rude. He's cleared pissed at the ink pot / pen which always seem to leak on him. There's no anger at anyone human. Behead him I say.

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 13:28

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:26

@Notonthestairs My parents both died unexpectedly in a car accident this year. If a camera had followed me around while I arranged everything after they had died all it would have caught was me looking numb and at times being tearful.

I'm sorry for your loss Antelope.

People grieve and deal with stress differently. Declaring him this awful person (not you, just the general reaction) for being pissed at his ink pot is as ridiculous as someone seeing you in one of those moments of being numb and calling you uncaring and devoid of emotion, or when you were tearful and calling you an over emotional cry baby.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:29

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 13:28

I'm sorry for your loss Antelope.

People grieve and deal with stress differently. Declaring him this awful person (not you, just the general reaction) for being pissed at his ink pot is as ridiculous as someone seeing you in one of those moments of being numb and calling you uncaring and devoid of emotion, or when you were tearful and calling you an over emotional cry baby.

Thank you.
But Charles had a reputation for being quick to anger before the death of his mother. This is nothing new.

saraclara · 14/09/2022 13:32

StressfulBedtimes · 13/09/2022 21:39

His mother died
He has had a camera in his face and his every move scrutinised all day every day since
He’s flying back and forth all over the place and waving and shaking hands with strangers all day
He’s having to take part in ceremony after ceremony and sign paper after paper at a time he should be grieving
He isn’t allowed to cry or show anything but stoicism days after watching his mother die and being surrounded by it constantly since
He’s 73
So yeah I think a pen leaking on me would’ve tipped me over the edge too if I were him
Poor man should be at home crying and going over old photo albums in his comfies surrounded by the people he loves right now
I hope he signs the next thing in biro

I'm by no means a royalist or a particular fan of his, but what he's been having to do over the last few days is almost inhuman. I can't even begin to imagine the pressure he's under every minute of the day.

Every time I see a news report now, I'm thinking 'how on earth can anyone cope with this level of intense travel and being on show to all and sundry, with every second monitored and commented on?'
So yes, I can completely imagine something small tipping him over the edge. I doubt there's a person on this thread that could cope with 5% of this when grieving.

Notonthestairs · 14/09/2022 13:33

antelope I'm afraid I'll never understand why you'd want him to cry on camera. *
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It was a very minor mishap after days of travel, meetings and speeches all under the watching cameras.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:34

Notonthestairs · 14/09/2022 13:33

antelope I'm afraid I'll never understand why you'd want him to cry on camera. *
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It was a very minor mishap after days of travel, meetings and speeches all under the watching cameras.

I did not say I want him to cry on camera. I am quite happy if he is stoic and regal. But i would prefer tears over a temper tantrum.

Arbesque · 14/09/2022 13:39

It wasn't a temper tantrum, it was a momentary loss of poise after days of grief, exhaustion and stress.
He's human.

Notonthestairs · 14/09/2022 13:40

antelope- I think you are deliberately overlooking everything else he's done in the last few days and concentrating on a few seconds when he didn't perform to your liking.