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The Palace seems to be Leaking like a Sieve

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Meanderings · 12/09/2022 09:13

These people are apparently worried about what Harry will write in his memoir but we've somehow managed to get a play by play of what has gone on this week.

From blocking Meghan's visit to Balmoral to how the joint greeting of well wishers came about.

Please note that these writers are making it clear they are speaking to Palace sources.

Now when H&M start speaking (in defense of themselves), people will complain.

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The Palace seems to be Leaking like a Sieve
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Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:09

WeAreTheHeroes · 15/09/2022 07:07

How do you know? Who are you to them?

I don't believe most of the shite I read about them, that goes double for anything in the Fail. Unfortunately very many people think that if they've read it in the papers it must be true.

The problem is that people do believe it and use it to spread hatred and vileness. It's disturbing.

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Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:11

Skolo · 15/09/2022 07:03

This isn’t an inside scoop. No one needs to bother to leak a story. It is made up by the press because people like you read it.

I don't think it's true at all but people do believe these sort of things and use it to spread more hate. It's why H&M sometimes feel the need to respond, then people complain.

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WeAreTheHeroes · 15/09/2022 07:12

If you employ just a bit if critical thinking it's obvious very many of these articles are fabrication - if they don't want to be working royals, why would they give a shit about their children being called HRH? All of this crap stems from the fact Meghan is American and black.

WeAreTheHeroes · 15/09/2022 07:12

@Meanderings - you haven't answered the two questions I asked you. Will you please?

MushMonster · 15/09/2022 07:13

I bet you only blood relatives were with her when she passed away. Dying is not a pretty thing.
If spouses were not there may be very well because she asked for only her children and grandchildren around her on her last minutes.
Certainly neither Kate or Meghan were far away from their husbands and were by them swiftly after her passing to support and comfort. Same for Camila and Charles and Ann and her husband. And the rest of the family, who must feel rather lucky as nobody is talking about them.
A bit of simple respect for the grieving family would be welcome by now, to be honest.

gogohmm · 15/09/2022 07:16

@Meanderings

H&M are in this situation of their own making. They are the ones that sought out media coverage, they wanted freedom rather than towing the line, they didn't want to stick to the rules in return for a very privileged life. Their choice their consequences

ajandjjmum · 15/09/2022 07:16

BerriesOnTop · 13/09/2022 19:08

I was thinking the same thing about Kate actually. Kates side is keeping a strangely low profile

The move to Windsor was probably intended to sideline her while PW stayed in London. This threw the whole arrangement into disarray, probably.

What crap!

Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:19

WeAreTheHeroes · 15/09/2022 07:12

@Meanderings - you haven't answered the two questions I asked you. Will you please?

what questions?

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RandomPenguinHouse · 15/09/2022 07:19

Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:11

I don't think it's true at all but people do believe these sort of things and use it to spread more hate. It's why H&M sometimes feel the need to respond, then people complain.

Using it to spread hate is exactly what you’re doing here. You’re calling it a leak in a thread by you about leaks from the palace. So you’re basically saying the palace leaked it. If you didn’t think it was true you wouldn’t have used the the word leak. You’re basically saying the palace have a campaign against H&M and H&M are angry and essentially hypocritical. You’re spreading crap and hate.

Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:26

RandomPenguinHouse · 15/09/2022 07:19

Using it to spread hate is exactly what you’re doing here. You’re calling it a leak in a thread by you about leaks from the palace. So you’re basically saying the palace leaked it. If you didn’t think it was true you wouldn’t have used the the word leak. You’re basically saying the palace have a campaign against H&M and H&M are angry and essentially hypocritical. You’re spreading crap and hate.

But people saying h&m constantly attacking the family while these stories quote endless palace sources painting h&m negatively. now if h&m make a statement responding to this, as they have every right to, or talk about it in his biography, then people ought to respect it.

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WeAreTheHeroes · 15/09/2022 07:27

Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:19

what questions?

I asked you how do you know? I.e. that the palace/royal family are briefing against them And, who are you to them? I.e. how do you know Harry and Meghan, what's your connection?

kateandme · 15/09/2022 07:28

momtoboys · 13/09/2022 15:13

That is because Kate is behaving like a princess and keeping a low profile as she should. M wants everything to be about her. She says the left the UK because everyone deserves privacy and then she sells her soul to the press.

But They have never said this " privacy" people keep on with.there is wanting to love how they choose out of royal media's eye.there is wanting to take their own direction.and that direction could be in acting,writing or doing interviews.buts it's AS THEY CHOOSE.its their words.its privacy in that they release their truths not some fucking trash lies from public forums and papers.
Where did they say they wanted to be completely silent.they said they wanted choice.their terms.their life in their control.tjey couldn't do this as a royal role.
And they do live relatively quietly.but as they are still who they are making money would most likely come from tv or that sphere.given Meghan has always been an actress it would make it even more obvious shed still have television and the arts style roles.

kateandme · 15/09/2022 07:29

kateandme · 15/09/2022 07:28

But They have never said this " privacy" people keep on with.there is wanting to love how they choose out of royal media's eye.there is wanting to take their own direction.and that direction could be in acting,writing or doing interviews.buts it's AS THEY CHOOSE.its their words.its privacy in that they release their truths not some fucking trash lies from public forums and papers.
Where did they say they wanted to be completely silent.they said they wanted choice.their terms.their life in their control.tjey couldn't do this as a royal role.
And they do live relatively quietly.but as they are still who they are making money would most likely come from tv or that sphere.given Meghan has always been an actress it would make it even more obvious shed still have television and the arts style roles.

And yes they didn't like the way a royal like Kate and Will have to keep neutral.placid.have no opinion.who would!

MushMonster · 15/09/2022 07:31

Let's stop assuming bullshit of one shape or another, shall we?
And if any of the family wants to say anything about the events, themselves, then let them.
Then, people would have a good reason to form an opinion, when they actually hear it from the persons involved.

RandomPenguinHouse · 15/09/2022 07:36

Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:26

But people saying h&m constantly attacking the family while these stories quote endless palace sources painting h&m negatively. now if h&m make a statement responding to this, as they have every right to, or talk about it in his biography, then people ought to respect it.

I have no idea if the article you posted a photo of quotes palace sources because you didn’t provide a link to it. And I’m not googling it.

There is a big difference between refuting a story by the press and attacking family. The first doesn’t need to mean the second.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 15/09/2022 07:37

Blueblell · 15/09/2022 07:05

More likely Charles asked Kate not to go to balmoral so that it wouldn’t look so bad when they banned Megan from going.

That’s what my first thought was too.

Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:38

WeAreTheHeroes · 15/09/2022 07:27

I asked you how do you know? I.e. that the palace/royal family are briefing against them And, who are you to them? I.e. how do you know Harry and Meghan, what's your connection?

of course i don't know h&m, would anyway want to continue to stay in a place where papers stir up hate for clicks daily?

as for the rf briefing, the palace never denies these stories. in fact, the writer asked charles' office for comment but they didn't take the opportunity to correct said story.

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Ihatemyroad · 15/09/2022 07:38

Of course stories will be ‘leaked’. How true they are we don’t know.

But, I expect the RF are anticipating what H&M will say and do next based on what they have said and done up until now. So they anticipate H&M telling the world how badly they’ve been treated during this time and the RF want to get their version across first.

No need for any of it on either side to be made public but the RF can’t openly defend themselves so their only means is for stories to be ‘leaked’.

Wheresthebeach · 15/09/2022 07:39

The endless attempts to minimise what H&M have done is getting ridiculous. So many threads with the same theme. Almost like a campaign.

most of these stories in the tabloid press are made up click bait - it’s not the same as interviews.

Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:41

Wheresthebeach · 15/09/2022 07:39

The endless attempts to minimise what H&M have done is getting ridiculous. So many threads with the same theme. Almost like a campaign.

most of these stories in the tabloid press are made up click bait - it’s not the same as interviews.

the endless attempts to get people to attack h&m is what then?

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Meanderings · 15/09/2022 07:43

Ihatemyroad · 15/09/2022 07:38

Of course stories will be ‘leaked’. How true they are we don’t know.

But, I expect the RF are anticipating what H&M will say and do next based on what they have said and done up until now. So they anticipate H&M telling the world how badly they’ve been treated during this time and the RF want to get their version across first.

No need for any of it on either side to be made public but the RF can’t openly defend themselves so their only means is for stories to be ‘leaked’.

i can't wait to hear h&m's side then. i hope they respond to this. it's terrible what these leakers are doing. they are supposed to be mourning but leaking on the sussexes, what a shame.

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Notonthestairs · 15/09/2022 07:44

A twitter analytics firm assessed that 70 per cent of hateful Twitter posts about Megan Markle came from 83 Twitter accounts with a reach of 17 million.

"It analysed 114,000 tweets relating to the couple, and identified 83 accounts that it alleged were behind 70% of the more virulent anti-Sussex tweets.

“Our analysis allowed us to isolate 55 single-purpose accounts we identified as the primary hate accounts and 28 secondary hate accounts that mainly amplified the primary accounts,” the report said. With the accounts having a total of 187,631 followers, using analytic tools Bot Sentinel estimated “a combined unique potential reach of 17 million users”.

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/27/meghan-target-of-co-ordinated-twitter-hate-campaign-report-finds

Now why would that be happening?

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 15/09/2022 07:47

OK, so - as someone who works in the media and is fairly closely involved in royal coverage, I can tell you the following:

  • Reputable mainstream outlets don’t make royal stories up.
  • ’Palace sources’ for these outlets are just that.
  • The palace controls what is reported extremely tightly. If a reputable outlet cites a palace source, this means the reporter has checked with the palace and has been given the go-ahead to report this bit of news.
  • The relationship between reputable royal reporters and the palace is a delicate one. If a royal reporter crosses the palace by publishing stories they’ve been told are untrue, they risk losing all their future access to royal events, briefings, etc. Which would, effectively, be the end of their job as a royal reporter for that outlet.

This isn’t to say that royal reporters only report what’s spoonfed to them by the palace, but palace cooperation is crucial part of the equation.

BarrelOfOtters · 15/09/2022 07:47

Notonthestairs · 15/09/2022 07:44

A twitter analytics firm assessed that 70 per cent of hateful Twitter posts about Megan Markle came from 83 Twitter accounts with a reach of 17 million.

"It analysed 114,000 tweets relating to the couple, and identified 83 accounts that it alleged were behind 70% of the more virulent anti-Sussex tweets.

“Our analysis allowed us to isolate 55 single-purpose accounts we identified as the primary hate accounts and 28 secondary hate accounts that mainly amplified the primary accounts,” the report said. With the accounts having a total of 187,631 followers, using analytic tools Bot Sentinel estimated “a combined unique potential reach of 17 million users”.

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/27/meghan-target-of-co-ordinated-twitter-hate-campaign-report-finds

Now why would that be happening?

Facts…who’d have thought it? Interesting read.

elizaregina · 15/09/2022 07:49

Gogohumm doing interviews and seeking media coverage is what both Harry's parents have done.

What other path is there?