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What now for M&H

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OliviaBean · 11/09/2022 15:45

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

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skullbabe · 13/09/2022 12:00

SueSaid · 13/09/2022 09:32

'Even I was shocked by some of the things that Angela Levin has said in the past. Her hatred of Meghan is palpable. She really needs to be called out.'

She has gone a bit Piers Morgan which is a shame because there are valid points to be made but it gets lost if folk come across as too ott. That said Vanessa Feltz screeching where does she get her info on 'Talk tv' with another woman gurning and rolling her eyes at Levin wasn't exactly a Paxman moment, more Jeremy Kyle. Levin should have replied 'well I get my info from all the many reveals they keep providing us with'.

I’m sorry Vanessa Feltz was not screeching.

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 12:04

Kissingfrogs25 · 13/09/2022 11:47

Their problem more like it! My American friends are intensely embarrassed by the whole thing.

It’s almost as if people surround themselves with like minded others…….

Because my experience with people from the US is different to yours

Goawayquickly · 13/09/2022 12:04

Vanessa Feltz was not ‘screeching’ that’s just a way to try to undermine her. Women are often accused of screaming and screeching or being shrill when calmly making perfectly valid points.

Roussette · 13/09/2022 12:07

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 12:04

It’s almost as if people surround themselves with like minded others…….

Because my experience with people from the US is different to yours

My husband and I have just had a weekend in Madrid with three American friends we have been trying to meet since Covid. They are touring Spain and we finally got together! They ranged from liking her to loving her.

Vanessa Feltz was not ‘screeching’ that’s just a way to try to undermine her. Women are often accused of screaming and screeching or being shrill when calmly making perfectly valid points

This. It is a way of shutting down the points a woman is making. Her voice level did not change in the slightest.

Lampzade · 13/09/2022 12:11

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 12:04

It’s almost as if people surround themselves with like minded others…….

Because my experience with people from the US is different to yours

I agree
I spend a lot of time in America as I have many friends and relatives there
They love both Harry and Meghan and are astounded by the vitriol they receive in Britain.

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 12:20

@Lampzade

they’ll be much happier in the US - there seems to be a distinct lack of fact checking there, which suits them down to the ground.
we’re just the meanies wanting the truth

Roussette · 13/09/2022 12:21

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 12:20

@Lampzade

they’ll be much happier in the US - there seems to be a distinct lack of fact checking there, which suits them down to the ground.
we’re just the meanies wanting the truth

Gosh... way to go to insult a whole nation Shock

Lampzade · 13/09/2022 12:26

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 12:20

@Lampzade

they’ll be much happier in the US - there seems to be a distinct lack of fact checking there, which suits them down to the ground.
we’re just the meanies wanting the truth

Wow, just wow.

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 12:26

Look at the US. Both sides are pitted against each other and they only fact check the other side at the moment. And it’s such an issue.

I read the WP and NYT, I sometimes watch CNN.

Meghan should have been pulled up on lying, she’s only been pulled up on acting the victim

BeckyWithTheAverageHair · 13/09/2022 12:28

If you mean the Platinum Jubilee then you must be mistaken. Snowdon has been dead for years & Viscount Lindy as was is divorced.

Princess Margaret's son is now Snowdon and his son is Linley. But, much like we struggle with saying King Charles rather than Prince, we still think of the current Earl of Snowdon as Viscount Linley!

Serenster · 13/09/2022 12:30

Individuals who suggested she might have been a bit fast and loose with the truth on Oprah were sacked, on both sides of the Atlantic, though - there was definitely a heated atmosphere at the time over the issue. Looking back now, and given what has happened since, that seems fairly extraordinary.

Roussette · 13/09/2022 12:31

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 12:26

Look at the US. Both sides are pitted against each other and they only fact check the other side at the moment. And it’s such an issue.

I read the WP and NYT, I sometimes watch CNN.

Meghan should have been pulled up on lying, she’s only been pulled up on acting the victim

I don't understand your post. The US and UK are pitted against each other? How?

Who are you saying should be pulling her up on lying, the US? Perhaps they don't believe she is..... just a thought....

Cameleongirl · 13/09/2022 12:32

I live in the US and tbh, most people seem fairly indifferent about them at this point. There was enthusiasm when they married, but the RF is an alien concept here, most people know little about it (I’m sure Meghan didn’t before she met Harry).

Again, there was a flutter of enthusiasm when they moved over, but that was 2.5 years ago now and we’ve gone through a pandemic. Now it’s sporadic at most--interest in her podcasts for a couple of weeks, mainly because of the interviewees, The Mandela comparison went down really badly here, though.

If I wasn’t a dual citizen, I wouldn’t be interested in the RF either.

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 12:34

l@Roussette

Both sides in the US - left and right, republic and democrat ?

TreacsPotNoodle · 13/09/2022 12:38

I read this as "what now for H&M"

And panicked that H&M had gone bust💔

SueSaid · 13/09/2022 12:52

'had to flee this country with people like Angela Levin on TV commentating about her. She has been all over Sky News, ITV and the BBC.'

They didn't 'flee' they flounced when they didn't get what they demanded regarding their role.

Commentators like Angela Levin and like Piers Morgan etc perhaps shouldn't be given platforms on Talk Telly. Not quite sure why they are given so much airtime when there are more measured opinions out there that don't whip up comments like 'They had to flee!'.

Roussette · 13/09/2022 12:59

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 12:34

l@Roussette

Both sides in the US - left and right, republic and democrat ?

Ahhh got it. I didn't understand. Thx

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 13:06

@Roussette

Apologies for not being clear. I’d blame my covid brain but ….🤣

BrokenFridgeDrawer · 13/09/2022 13:09

I have a very good friend, who attended acting school, and whose dream it was to be "an actor". All conversations eventually turn to this topic and are consumed by it. When they first came to the big city, and we bonded, I bought into it. As time moved on, I began to be a bit more realistic. Eventually they had a minor supporting role, in C list movie along side a C list star and got put on the DVD cover which was on the ASDA chat for a week ( I guarantee I could name it here on one of the UK's biggest chat forums and not one single mumsnetter will have seen it ...). The process took a few days, and they are on screen for minutes, blink and you miss them. The talk about these roles, having make up, a dressing room, a car to collect them, their name on the DVD box, has gone on years and has become the central point of their existance. Returnging back in their small town, living on benefits before the big auditon comes, their " career" and their dreams are what every converstation turns to, coddled by elderly relatives, they are indulged, but it is clear they have peaked. They don't have the talent, drive or ambition. Frankly it is a delusion which keeps them afloat and functioning, rather than grasp the nettle of real life. I have tried to suggest that if they love acting so much, they could join a local drama group, or even a big city company, and act alongside a real job. They think all of this is below them. They don't want to mark tnheir card because it will affect the big role which is just around the corner. Even though I love my friend dearly, treasure their freindship, and enjoy having them as part of my life, I realise it is all a fantasy. They didn't want to be "an actor" at all. They want to be a "star", they want the adulation and recognition and respect and social status, to be recognised and to be treated special. My friend, in the nicest way possible, is some sort of narcissist, not in a malicous way of treating others badly, but in the perception and desire for being special and above the rest. I worry for my friend, because bit by bit, their family all see it for what it is, and that reality is going to be a big bump. My friend does not have any publicity, but if they did, I would suggest it has gone to their head. It's all a delusion, and everybody is kind,.

If MM is as talented as her admirers suggest, rather than podcasts and documentaries, and vacuous and frankly suspicous charity ventures that seem to be gobbled up in expenses rather than money getting to some sort of needy, surely she could auditon for an acting role. If she was such a great actress, surely she could have her pick of roles ? Or maybe, like my friend, she is deluded with her own sense of importance.

Roussette · 13/09/2022 13:16

Lol. I am on my phone and scrolled down reading your lengthy post thinking where is this going to end as far as Meghan?

MM being called a narcissist too? Or what?

Your end surprised me. I don't think I have ever seen anyone say she's an Oscar winning actress despite being in a series and over 200 episodes
I have never said she's super talented either. I think she's a hard worker and I think her podcasts are being very well received and she should carry on with those plus whate er else she turns her hand to

Awww your friend, good on you for sticking with her

Lampzade · 13/09/2022 13:19

BrokenFridgeDrawer · 13/09/2022 13:09

I have a very good friend, who attended acting school, and whose dream it was to be "an actor". All conversations eventually turn to this topic and are consumed by it. When they first came to the big city, and we bonded, I bought into it. As time moved on, I began to be a bit more realistic. Eventually they had a minor supporting role, in C list movie along side a C list star and got put on the DVD cover which was on the ASDA chat for a week ( I guarantee I could name it here on one of the UK's biggest chat forums and not one single mumsnetter will have seen it ...). The process took a few days, and they are on screen for minutes, blink and you miss them. The talk about these roles, having make up, a dressing room, a car to collect them, their name on the DVD box, has gone on years and has become the central point of their existance. Returnging back in their small town, living on benefits before the big auditon comes, their " career" and their dreams are what every converstation turns to, coddled by elderly relatives, they are indulged, but it is clear they have peaked. They don't have the talent, drive or ambition. Frankly it is a delusion which keeps them afloat and functioning, rather than grasp the nettle of real life. I have tried to suggest that if they love acting so much, they could join a local drama group, or even a big city company, and act alongside a real job. They think all of this is below them. They don't want to mark tnheir card because it will affect the big role which is just around the corner. Even though I love my friend dearly, treasure their freindship, and enjoy having them as part of my life, I realise it is all a fantasy. They didn't want to be "an actor" at all. They want to be a "star", they want the adulation and recognition and respect and social status, to be recognised and to be treated special. My friend, in the nicest way possible, is some sort of narcissist, not in a malicous way of treating others badly, but in the perception and desire for being special and above the rest. I worry for my friend, because bit by bit, their family all see it for what it is, and that reality is going to be a big bump. My friend does not have any publicity, but if they did, I would suggest it has gone to their head. It's all a delusion, and everybody is kind,.

If MM is as talented as her admirers suggest, rather than podcasts and documentaries, and vacuous and frankly suspicous charity ventures that seem to be gobbled up in expenses rather than money getting to some sort of needy, surely she could auditon for an acting role. If she was such a great actress, surely she could have her pick of roles ? Or maybe, like my friend, she is deluded with her own sense of importance.

I was wondering where you were going with this long post.
Then the last paragraph showed me where you were going.

LondonWolf · 13/09/2022 13:21

SueSaid · 13/09/2022 12:52

'had to flee this country with people like Angela Levin on TV commentating about her. She has been all over Sky News, ITV and the BBC.'

They didn't 'flee' they flounced when they didn't get what they demanded regarding their role.

Commentators like Angela Levin and like Piers Morgan etc perhaps shouldn't be given platforms on Talk Telly. Not quite sure why they are given so much airtime when there are more measured opinions out there that don't whip up comments like 'They had to flee!'.

I have never in all my life seen the word "flee" used as often as I see it on these threads Grin

Goawayquickly · 13/09/2022 13:21

BrokenFridgeDrawer · 13/09/2022 13:09

I have a very good friend, who attended acting school, and whose dream it was to be "an actor". All conversations eventually turn to this topic and are consumed by it. When they first came to the big city, and we bonded, I bought into it. As time moved on, I began to be a bit more realistic. Eventually they had a minor supporting role, in C list movie along side a C list star and got put on the DVD cover which was on the ASDA chat for a week ( I guarantee I could name it here on one of the UK's biggest chat forums and not one single mumsnetter will have seen it ...). The process took a few days, and they are on screen for minutes, blink and you miss them. The talk about these roles, having make up, a dressing room, a car to collect them, their name on the DVD box, has gone on years and has become the central point of their existance. Returnging back in their small town, living on benefits before the big auditon comes, their " career" and their dreams are what every converstation turns to, coddled by elderly relatives, they are indulged, but it is clear they have peaked. They don't have the talent, drive or ambition. Frankly it is a delusion which keeps them afloat and functioning, rather than grasp the nettle of real life. I have tried to suggest that if they love acting so much, they could join a local drama group, or even a big city company, and act alongside a real job. They think all of this is below them. They don't want to mark tnheir card because it will affect the big role which is just around the corner. Even though I love my friend dearly, treasure their freindship, and enjoy having them as part of my life, I realise it is all a fantasy. They didn't want to be "an actor" at all. They want to be a "star", they want the adulation and recognition and respect and social status, to be recognised and to be treated special. My friend, in the nicest way possible, is some sort of narcissist, not in a malicous way of treating others badly, but in the perception and desire for being special and above the rest. I worry for my friend, because bit by bit, their family all see it for what it is, and that reality is going to be a big bump. My friend does not have any publicity, but if they did, I would suggest it has gone to their head. It's all a delusion, and everybody is kind,.

If MM is as talented as her admirers suggest, rather than podcasts and documentaries, and vacuous and frankly suspicous charity ventures that seem to be gobbled up in expenses rather than money getting to some sort of needy, surely she could auditon for an acting role. If she was such a great actress, surely she could have her pick of roles ? Or maybe, like my friend, she is deluded with her own sense of importance.

This doesn’t make much sense, it’s just a load of words about your friend and nothing whatsoever to do with Meghan .

You talk about if she is as talented as her admirers say, then go on to say Meghan might be delusional about being a great actress. Has Meghan said that or that she wants to go back to acting? Pretty weird post really.

WaveyHair · 13/09/2022 14:04

BrokenFridgeDrawer · 13/09/2022 13:09

I have a very good friend, who attended acting school, and whose dream it was to be "an actor". All conversations eventually turn to this topic and are consumed by it. When they first came to the big city, and we bonded, I bought into it. As time moved on, I began to be a bit more realistic. Eventually they had a minor supporting role, in C list movie along side a C list star and got put on the DVD cover which was on the ASDA chat for a week ( I guarantee I could name it here on one of the UK's biggest chat forums and not one single mumsnetter will have seen it ...). The process took a few days, and they are on screen for minutes, blink and you miss them. The talk about these roles, having make up, a dressing room, a car to collect them, their name on the DVD box, has gone on years and has become the central point of their existance. Returnging back in their small town, living on benefits before the big auditon comes, their " career" and their dreams are what every converstation turns to, coddled by elderly relatives, they are indulged, but it is clear they have peaked. They don't have the talent, drive or ambition. Frankly it is a delusion which keeps them afloat and functioning, rather than grasp the nettle of real life. I have tried to suggest that if they love acting so much, they could join a local drama group, or even a big city company, and act alongside a real job. They think all of this is below them. They don't want to mark tnheir card because it will affect the big role which is just around the corner. Even though I love my friend dearly, treasure their freindship, and enjoy having them as part of my life, I realise it is all a fantasy. They didn't want to be "an actor" at all. They want to be a "star", they want the adulation and recognition and respect and social status, to be recognised and to be treated special. My friend, in the nicest way possible, is some sort of narcissist, not in a malicous way of treating others badly, but in the perception and desire for being special and above the rest. I worry for my friend, because bit by bit, their family all see it for what it is, and that reality is going to be a big bump. My friend does not have any publicity, but if they did, I would suggest it has gone to their head. It's all a delusion, and everybody is kind,.

If MM is as talented as her admirers suggest, rather than podcasts and documentaries, and vacuous and frankly suspicous charity ventures that seem to be gobbled up in expenses rather than money getting to some sort of needy, surely she could auditon for an acting role. If she was such a great actress, surely she could have her pick of roles ? Or maybe, like my friend, she is deluded with her own sense of importance.

So I think we agree that Rachel Meghan Markle has a few narcissistic tendencies & a mediocre actress (try getting through 30 mins of the daters handbook without help of alcohol).

Never understood how she was so bland as an actress as she was often on the set of Married with Children growing up. Her dad was a lighting director. Think she is an uncredited extra in an episode.

Roussette · 13/09/2022 14:21

So I think we agree that Rachel Meghan Markle has a few narcissistic tendencies & a mediocre actress

I don't like any post that says what I'm supposed to agree with
Hint. I don't!

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