What now for M&H

[OliviaBean]

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

@CaptainBarbosa My natural instinct is to be all over it too, I love dressing up and this would be the ultimate experience. 🤣 But I don’t know that I’d want to participate in pageantry for an institution that I viewed as racist and I felt had mistreated me and my spouse.

Unless there’s forgiveness and a proper family reconciliation before then, which may happen.

@CaptainBarbosa

What about the ethics of fur, especially if you have a relationship with Peta. That’s a lot of dead ermines.

I don’t think they’d let you rip it off the fur of an antique gown and replace with a polyester copy 🤣

peta can be quite cross with people they regard as ‘sell outs’

Just back home after seeing HM lying at rest in St Giles. We went in just before 4am and saw the Royal Company of Archers change shifts and also the police, who were standing slightly further out from the coffin. There were also prayers said by the clergy who were there

it was very moving to be there. Even in the queues people were talking in hushed voices.

it was an incredible night.

You really ought to see to the end. She says she is being attacked, this from the woman who has relentlessly bullied Meghan for years with nasty stuff. She wasn't being attacked, it was for once her being questioned

I agree, I think there has been a tiny shift in the UK press but do worry it is because the eyes of the world are on us at the moment and it really does not look good to do what we normally do...papers full of unpleasant articles. I hope we don't revert back when the funeral is over

What an experience @TrashyPanda. I'm in London so will try to see HM lying in state but 5 mile queues are predicted and I genuinely don't know if I will have time.

Trashy how incredible to feel part of something.

Rousette I wouldn’t back on the press not going back to form at the earliest opportunity. I’ve not seen Angela Levin interviewed but will try today.

Re whether H&M will be at the coronation. Harry is now the son of a King. Meghan his wife. They have every right to be there should they & the family want them there. Its a few months off yet so we will see.

I have no issues whatsoever with M&H being at the coronation, in full regalia etc. So they should be. We all have difficult people in our family, we can't just exclude them from the nice bits. Its just the hypocrisy I take issue with. The relentless criticism and moaning on the world stage, but then partaking in the interesting and exciting bits. I was NC with my family for a time, I didn't rock up whenever there was a nice, big, fun family event and then go back to bitching about them afterwards.

I would genuinely love to see what happened if H&M could let go of their grievances and be on good terms with the family, bring the children back occasionally, let them know their cousins etc. Someone has to move first and it feels like William did by inviting them to the Walk About. It would really be quite something if a rapprochement, even limited, could be one good thing that comes out of HM dying.

You'd run off to the chat show host who offered the most money and speak many of which were proven to be lies and have it broadcast as a family member was dying before scurrying back when the time suited? You sound lovely.

@MaulPerton your point “Their 'supporters' do them a disservice, using them as vehicles for their own ends.” - is also interesting - what do you think their own ends could be?

An advisor with their interests at heart would have emphasised the positives over the negatives with respect to the role. You have to walk behind someone? So what - there is always a hierarchy, as you are now finding out dealing with Netflix and Spotify. You have to deal with a nasty press? So what - everyone in the same position does. You get to live in a smaller house than one of the others? So what - it's free. But, the positives! You get a carte blanche to practice your 'causes' as you see fit (if you want to draw attention to racism, where better than when meeting Heads of State as opposed to sucking from a baby bottle on a street because Ellen fancies humiliating you?). You get to meet, well, everyone who is anyone in the world and develop relationships with them. You get a wealthy, glamorous life for free. You get respect and adulation from the public just for getting out of a car. The list goes on.

They listened too much to others who had their own agenda. OW, of the 'racism will be gone once old people marinated in racism die out' perspective is using H & M as a vehicle to propagate her own perspective. Scobie's vehicle is his career. Sunshine Sachs are using them to make money.

As it goes though I really like Meghan and its a shame she hasn't gone after something she's truly passionate about as I feel she would have been successful. Harry though is a spoilt brat like his father. Now the queen has gone I do wonder if support for the monarchy will dwindle.

I agree @MaulPerton. This has been apparent almost from the beginning.

'I agree, I think there has been a tiny shift in the UK press but do worry it is because the eyes of the world are on us at the moment'

Surely it is because the priority is the Queen, the coffin, the processions etc. I doubt the msm want to give much airtime to the soap opera that is The Sussexes. It would demean the whole solemn situation, no?

I'm sure once we have interviews in the US on how no-one asked if they were ok or if H wasn't allowed to do this or that we'll have business as usual.

It was very moving to be able to go to St Giles

so many people showing their love and respect

Has Charles not said that he wants a simplified Coronation? If so , he may well restrict number of participants in full regalia .

People don’t normally get paid to be on chat shows - the transaction is promotion of whatever project the person being interviewed wants to talk about (book, film, album, charity etc). Looking around at US rules - there may be a SAG nominal rate for actors but again they wouldn’t make lots of money on chat shows.

Ah just read again - you mean Oprah.

Nothing will change in fact things will probably get worse as unfortunately that book is due to come out. Harry couldn't have known his DGM was going to die... But this is really, really bad timing. People will still be missing the Q when his slaughter book comes out and the backlash will be a huge. I think it's too late for the book to be cancelled.

I think this is why Charles mentioned his love for them and then clearly asserted they would be having "their life abroad". He could have very easily mentioned his love for them and then completed that sentence with "....and will continue to pour his passion into (insert Harry's causes)", but the emphasis was very much on the living abroad.

I think the plan will be for them to stay out of the UK for at least a year following the books release.

Your prophesy as to what will happen obviously. You don't know. Nor do I.

There are still numerous dreadful articles about Meghan even though the priority is the Queen, it doesn't stop the DM with it's 21 articles. However, when someone like Angela Levin is called out for her vile attacking, that is a slight shift in my book. These ghastly journos spouting hate make the UK look really bad. Let's see if they let up a bit when the funeral is over.

Interesting - they weren’t paid for the Oprah interview. I like many presumed they were. So the interview wasn’t for money.

The interview was for revenge. Pure and simple

'Nothing will change in fact things will probably get worse as unfortunately that book is due to come out. Harry couldn't have known his DGM was going to die...'

He should've known a 96yr old would perhaps not live much longer. I bet the book will be full of praise and adulation for the Queen to keep in with his US supporters, the villains seem to be Charles, Camilla and PW. By attacking them though he is also attacking the memory of his beloved granny who thought so much of the people he blames for all his woes.

Regardless of what you may think the motivation was - we can confirm that the assertion that they sit down for interviews is for whomever pays the most is false.

I suspect they will go back to the US and carry on as before. They made their decision to leave, and haven't appeared to waver on that.
I don't think relations between H and M and the RF will ever be completely repaired.

Angela Levin is a journalist who you cannot say is objective towards Meghan regardless of where you stand in your thoughts. I have
seen her over the years appear in various shows and state things as fact unchallenged, and I was honestly taken aback that she was questioned at all because it was so unusual. It was also fascinating in how she took challenge as being attacked. Let’s see if this continues - the eyes of the world on on us indeed because the Queen is dead however, not all of the world media will be as sycophantic as ours and will absolutely be scrutinising everything including the soap opera.

Andrew, A-ok to wear uniform.

Harry, naughtily objecting to stories about his innocent wife being used as tabloid fodder to cover up royal family shenanigans, pariah.

The sooner this ridiculous family is removed from power the better.