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Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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8AndGreat · 10/09/2022 09:22

It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

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UWhatNow · 10/09/2022 10:53

Wouldloveanother · 10/09/2022 10:26

As PPs have said, she’s made her bed, now she has to lie in it.

All she’s ever done is play the victim and tell lies. She clearly sold herself as some kind of abandoned child to PH, saying the royals were ‘the family she never had’ and then cutting her dad off to fit the narrative. And, I suspect, because he’s overweight and not the most polished and camera-friendly of people.

Then the bizarre, snotty statements she put out in a bid to buck tradition - saying she would ‘celebrate privately’ after Archie’s birth, refusing to share the place of birth or the hospital, refusing to let the paps take a few photos and instead insisting on that incredibly awkward and ridiculous red carpet walk at Windsor Castle. I think a lot of public goodwill evaporated when it became clear she wanted the status and money without ‘giving back’ to them.

She seemed to loathe anything British - she never wore British fashion designers, always sticking with American couture (paid for by us of course). She never said anything positive about the country, or wanted to get stuck in learning about it by going to the less glamorous parts. It always seemed to be shiny fashion events or cute animals in London. She had zero intention of doing the boring ribbon cutting or factory tours that is basically the royals’ job.

Then leaving after 18 months with yet another snotty statement without clearing their plans with the Queen; who was totally blindsided and put out a statement to this effect.

Thats not even starting on the accusations that have followed, which seem to be very economical with the truth. Saying they wouldn’t let her see a counsellor, really? Why didn’t Harry just book one and arrange for them to meet at Frogmore?

So no, I don’t like her, and now she has to live with her actions. I don’t think she ever intended to be a working royal. I think it was all about elevating her status for her inevitable return to the USA having swallowed up £££ of our money in the process and putting two fingers up at DH w public. Now she’s back and realised that all Hollywood is interested in is her ‘anecdotes’, rather than her philanthropical genius or acting skills. So she’s selling them out for every penny knowing they can’t really address what she says due to their code of conduct.

🤷🏼‍♀️ I don’t care if she’s upset.

Brilliant post. Exactly sums up I think what most of the antipathy towards Meghan is - and nothing to do with her race. It was so clear she turned her nose up the unglamorous, workaday aspects royal life which was disappointing as the country, I felt, were so excited on their wedding day and felt she was a beautiful ‘breath of fresh air’ (again no racism) with so much potential to do good.

Shame. They’ve showed themselves to be shallow and narcissistic and clearly not up to the challenge of genuine royal service.

Nolongerteaching · 10/09/2022 10:53

What’s therapy IKEA? Is it when you wander around the store aimlessly then pick up a candle and a pretty throw before eating meatballs in the cafe?

I could get onboard with that.

Prescottdanni123 · 10/09/2022 10:54

Just to add, I used to be pro Meghan. I was so excited for her to join the Royal family. But after everything that has happened, not any more.

FinallyHere · 10/09/2022 10:55

certain media outlets (I'm looking at you daily mail) are making the queen's death all about Diana, Megan and Kate.

I'm certainly no royalist but the problem I see with the DM is that people stupidly continue to buy it. As long as they sell plenty, they will continue to spew out their vitriol in the terms that they know people want to read and will buy.

People, I appeal to you., stop buying their papers.

HappyHamsters · 10/09/2022 10:55

Why was harry last to arrive and first to leave, and why did he take a BA flight

Voerendaal · 10/09/2022 10:55

TrashyPanda · 10/09/2022 09:32

nope, can’t summon up any sympathy for her.

its the family who loved and supported HMQ that I feel sorry

H&M are the architects of their own misfortune. They have only themselves to blame.

This

Roselilly36 · 10/09/2022 10:55

I have to say I agree with King Charles on this occasion, it wasn’t appropriate for Meghan to visit the dying Queen. Catherine wasn’t their either, she stayed at home for her childrens’ benefit. Countess of Wessex travelled with Prince Edward, Sophie had a very close relationship with the Queen. The King expressed his love for Harry & Meghan in his speech, what more do they want, they are no longer active members of the RF, which was their choice, they can’t pick and choose what events they want to be included in. I have no doubt Harry is grieving, it’s plain to see. If I was in Meghan's shoes, I would return home to my young children with Harry to stay in the U.K until after the funeral and hopefully begin to repair bonds with his family.

NiceTwin · 10/09/2022 10:55

Nope, they made their bed and now they must lie in it.
No sympathy whatsoever. She is an absolute piece of work.

Wheresmymoneytree · 10/09/2022 10:56

Keroppi · 10/09/2022 09:27

I'm no Royalist, just a gossip Wink but I find it odd that it keeps being reported everywhere that they had no plans to visit the queen on this visit, I feel they must have known she was unwell? And I do feel for Harry, why didn't he get to go on the earlier plane that William and Charles etc got on so he would have been there for her death? Sad to lose your granny!

We don’t know the details of this to judge! For all we know they could set off in 15 minutes and he was an hour away so said to go ahead without him.

JackandVera · 10/09/2022 10:56

www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-prince-harry-wife-meghan-head-scotland-be-with-queen-2022-09-08/

Their spokesman said. Just a reminder.

cabansunset · 10/09/2022 10:57

'Why was harry last to arrive and first to leave, and why did he take a BA flight'

It was a private plane not a BA flight

Ellatella · 10/09/2022 10:57

I don't feel sorry for harry or meghan at all. They chose to move away and then publicly badmouth his family to the world. If they cared about the family or his elderly grandparents, they wouldn't have done that.
I cant understand harry and meghan at all but I don't think they'll feel bad. If they had a conscience they wouldn't have done what they did.

ThickCutSteakChips · 10/09/2022 10:57

I think probably all of this stuff is probably the final realisation for Meghan that this was a show she was never going to be the star of.

It is far bigger than her and Harry, but she thought she would come in and transform it, make it work for her, that it would be all about her and how she wanted things to be.

And when that didn't happen, because it was never going to happen, she had a massive tantrum.

I used to be really sympathetic to Meghan, and I still am to the extent that the Daily Mail just makes up stories about what is happening 'behind the scenes' which always paint her in a bad light.

But the things she has done publicly, the 'truth bomb' interviews, the dropping tidbits of info without giving too much info so that everyone would be speculating, calling her daughter Lilibet when she was literally fresh from slagging off the Queen and her family to the entire globe. Honey, no..........

chilliesandspices · 10/09/2022 10:58

I'm quite relieved she wasn't there. It would have been a story she retold to the press for years. Even when slagging off the family she always tried to make a point of how lovely the Queen was and how well they got on. I'm glad the Queen will be allowed some dignity in death and the royal family get to choose what they do and don't share with the world.

Bookworm777 · 10/09/2022 10:58

I wonder if we might see things mellow now and the attacks on the RF by H and M lessen. They'd have to be pretty thick not to realise that the huge global outpouring of public grief for the Queen is quickly turning into admiration and support for Charles as he takes the throne while mourning her death, and that being constantly critical and trying to undermine him is not going to win them any favours. They need public support and their own fandom to keep earning a living.

keeprunningupthathill · 10/09/2022 10:58

Deguster · 10/09/2022 10:05

Surprised that Meghan and/or Harry thought it was appropriate for her to go, at least initially.

Surprised that Andrew is swanning around with them despite buying off a very young and likely trafficked girl he denies having sex with at great expense.

I mean both Meghan and Andrew (and Harry tbf) deserve to be on some kind of shit list, but the Sussex “crimes” pale into insignificance relative to that sexually incompetent, supercilious buffoon.

Yes, I was surprised that they initially thought it was appropriate for her to go, and I feel sorry for Charles, who (if stories are true) had to ring Harry and deliver a difficult message about why his wife shouldn't come too just as his own mother was passing away. I feel it should have been obvious to both of them that it wasn't appropriate for Meghan to attend, especially as Kate wasn't there and it was clearly immediate/blood family only. It just shows a really lack of self awareness on their part. But I also feel sorry for Harry, he looked so isolated. I'm glad Charles mentioned him yesterday.

Prescottdanni123 · 10/09/2022 10:58

@Rainbowsandbutterflies1990

A couple of lies came out in the last couple of weeks alone. She claimed that an actor from the lion King told her that on the day of her wedding, people in SA danced in the street like they did for Nelson Mandela. The actor has since come out and said that this never happened.

She said that Archie and Lillibet didn't get the prince and Princess titles because they are black. Another lie, because written protocol clearly states that the great grandchildren of the monarch do not get the titles unless they are in direct line to the throne. And Archie and Lillington can have the titles now that they are the grandchildren of the king, so another lie.

That is just two recent ones. I could write all the lies that she been caught out on but that would take too long.

2pinkginsplease · 10/09/2022 10:59

savethebeesandthecees · 10/09/2022 09:37

The hatred towards her is because she

  • married someone
  • moved with her husband to her homeland
  • dumped her narcissistic dad
  • called out her in-laws (like her MIL did)
  • earns her own money
  • successfully sued the DM
  • is black

I don’t think these are issues at all, the dislike comes from her coming across as arrogant and critical of the family she married into, she knew what she was getting into when she got with Harry. His life has always been in the public eye and now he’s with her it’s a huge issue.

she is an actress and knows what it’s like living as someone famous.

TheGoodEnoughWife · 10/09/2022 10:59

I think at the time members of the family started to travel to Balmoral, Harry and Megan were in Germany (even if they were due to arrive to the U.K. later that day) so their means of travel would have been different/different timings.

On leaving Germany they both travelled but then plans changed and Harry went on to Balmoral alone.

I don't feel sorry for either of them. They wanted out of the family, whilst still enjoying the fame of being part of the family. They made their bed.

LadyApplejack · 10/09/2022 11:00

I agree H&M are in a difficult spot, but it's entirely of their own making. They've been so publicly critical and indiscreet, it was always totally unnecessary and it's done damage.

I don't think it's a biggie that M wasn't at Balmoral. Why would she want to be? The last moments are very personal, and she probably barely knew the Queen.

Flockbee · 10/09/2022 11:00

I don't at all. They got exactly what they wanted, to not be active members of the royal family and they both made the decision to spread lies and hatred towards his family very very publicly. The fact they thought they would be welcomed is bizarre. No other grandchildren went aside from William who is the heir and its not like anyone would trust her would they. I think this is dealing with the consequences of your actions to be honest.

Travis1 · 10/09/2022 11:01

theveg · 10/09/2022 10:30

Those saying "what about Andrew"....

We know about Andrew. No one likes him. But I don't see why he shouldn't have gone. His mother had just died. Some people seemed to Think he should have been banished??

No I think he should be in jail 🤷🏻‍♀️

Prescottdanni123 · 10/09/2022 11:01

@Keroppi

Charles had been at Balmoral for days, if not weeks before the Queen died. Anne had been there for a while as well. William and Edward got there too late unfortunately. So even if Harry had been on the flight with them, he still would not have got there in time. We don't know when she died, it might have been before William left.

ThickCutSteakChips · 10/09/2022 11:01

Meghan is also very much an 'everyone except me is an arsehole' person.

And we all know what that means.

mamabear715 · 10/09/2022 11:01

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