Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

It would have been wholly inappropriate for Meghan to go to Balmoral. Harry and her would have known that I'm very sure that was just an error in reporting, and that to she never considered it for a second.

No sympathy here, especially as they had no plans to even visit the queen during their jaunt around Europe, knowing her age and frailty. Of course, maybe she didn’t want them to visit. Either way, for her to think she should travel to Balmoral shows how utterly bonkers her thought processes are.

Does anyone else think H&M would take starring role in a David Walliams Worlds Worst Prince and Princesses….. It all becoming a he said/she said slight exaggerated comedic farce. I like Harry but I’ve never been a fan of M even pre Marriage. Like others said they need to carve out their own lives, stand on their own two feet without pushing other people down to stand on top of them.

Yes, this is it. In the ordinary world, we have to acknowledge how badly we handled some important things. Incidences where we sabotaged our own career or relationships or even ''image'' (less relevant when you're not in the public eye but still a thing, on a minor scale). It's tough, but like most of the population over the age of about 35 i have a slightly uncomfortable awareness of the things I handled clumsily, hastily with too much ego, with too much HURT. I may not have gone back to every person involved but I have learned to be less reactive. Never get any sense that H&M live and learn. Perhaps it''ll all come to them. The big growth learning curve. They say that after great pain comes real growth.

By going public with family matters, Harry has made it impossible for him to support his family or them to support him. I feel sorry for anyone who's gran has died but he must have known that he will have to look for support elsewhere.

If there was an 'error', that's on them. They had their 'spokesperson' 'announce' that they, not he, would be going to Balmoral.

Did we get an 'announcement' from Zara Tindall's 'spokesperson'? Or Eugenie's?

I find the venom directed at this woman disgusting to be honest. People are so stupid and believe literally everything the press writes, the press love it as it stirs everyone up to hate her even more and sells more stories. The same people hating this woman (that they know zero about other than what the press invents) is the same people posting allover social media to #bekind. It is literally the same thing, media stirring things up to sell stories, everyone then hates that individual. I'm so so fed up of the whole saint Catherine and William too, perfect parents 🤮, she takes her kids to school and everyone is fawning like she's done something amazing. Again it's just the media putting a spin on things. Catherine spends thousands on an outfit, isn't she beautiful/wonderful sun shines out her arse, Meghan wears expensive outfit "look at her wanting attention meeting poor people in an expensive outfit, she's so out of touch and trying to get attention, she should wear cheaper clothes".

I dislike the royal family as a whole, I think it's outdated that someone should be worshipped because they happened to be born into a family. I can totally see why Harry didn't want to be a part of any of it, it's just a shame that there is so much hate pinned on this woman when he's decided he doesn't want to be a part of the circus anymore.

I bet they’re both absolutely dreading the funeral. I hope for their sakes and the Royal family that the focus is not on them and where they’re sitting, and how angry they look and the interaction between them and the family.

sone People are so invested on things they’ve no idea about 😂

it was tone deaf of them to think that Meghan would be welcome there after everything that’s happened.
but of course it was another opportunity to make it all about them so even the impending death of the Queen was fair game.
they are cringeworthy self parodies

I used to be pro Meghan, I'm still am and completely get the discrimination she faced of being a Mixed Race woman in the Royal family- particularly as I'm Mixed Race myself.

But and I'm sorry. She should have learnt to keep her mouth shut. The Opra Winfrey interview- fine, but the book and the recent article in that magazine talking about again the royal family and her experiences- I'm sorry Meghan but it's too much. I feel that because Meghan it's not really close to her own family (except for her mum) this impacts on the way she views relationships and doesn't think and stop that whatever she says may harper Harry's relationship with his own family (which he appeared to be very close to up until recently). So would I welcome someone who keeps bashing my family in the press, magazines, interviews- not really no I wouldn't .

In many ways I do feel sorry for M and H.

Meghan's upbringing seems to have been a bit shaky, but she made her way as a successful actress, so hats off to her.

Harry's upbringing was clearly flawed too for obvious reasons; but also he was brought up in the royal family which we know is a strange place to be a child - bound by protocol, rigid and lacking in warmth. We know his father at times felt crushed by the system and his schooling; and the marriage of convenience that was virtually forced on him.

It must have felt good to Harry to fall in love with a strong woman who would support him.

But she inevitably found it hard to fit in with the constraints of the royal system - and who can blame her? She was not the first to find herself in that situation. We would all find it hard to adapt to such an abnormal life.

They made the decision to break free and live their own lives - sounds reasonable to me. I am in no doubt that Meghan was treated badly by the family. Too much for them to swallow as she questioned what was going on. She comes from a very different media-driven culture, so her handling of the situation feels a bit alien to us - but I have never doubted that her criticisms were based on fact. All the information we have about the family points to a very abnormal milieu - it is not surprising that she chose to protect herself and her children from it.

As to the queen's deathbed - it was not appropriate for her or Kate to be there. I am sure she understood that. I bet she can't wait to be home with her children.

I don't believe a word the press says. I judge by what I hear people say - i.e. verifiably their own words

I understand why Charles didn't want Meghan there. William, who is in direct line to the throne was there, presumably because he is in direct in line to the throne. None of the other grandchildren were there, let alone grandchildren in law.

Plus, why should Meghan be there after all the trouble and stress that she caused for the queen over the last few years?

Just as well she wasn't there, for her own safety as well. Princess Anne would have probably laid her out.

What lies has she said? And where is the proof?

I think there was probably a lot of muddle and confusion about who was moving where and when on the day.

And as the press clearly got their warning order to expect an announcement later in the day some time before they switched to rolling news at about 4:30, they then had to fill the time and the movements of the Royals had considerable scrutiny, which was unfortunate. Some branches of the family managed to be more private than others (we have no idea where Tim Lawrence was, for example)

One useful truism is never to ascribe to malice/conspiracy that which can be adequately explained by cock up

Kate wasnt there, Annes husband wasnt there, it was the children and Sophie who the queen was very close to. Why would Meghan be there

They made the decision to break free and live their own lives - sounds reasonable to me.

Indeed.

But they seem to just keep harping on about their time in the RF.

They won't break free!

We don’t have to depend on the Press for our news - H and M have been very vocal about their feelings .

If the Queen had refused a visit from them, it would've been leaked by someone in their camp to garner sympathy.

That's how I see it.

They said they wanted to step away from the 'Royal' limelight, but instead of settling quietly in the USA they appear to keep on about their past lives and then come to Europe/UK to tour etc.

I thought 'fair enough' when they left, but tell all interviews, books etc are unnecessary and keep them in the public view they apparently wanted to avoid.

@NiceCupOfTea2

I take everything in the press with a big pinch of salt, but when the woman has been telling easily proven lie after easily proven lie, and I have been hearing these things directly from the woman's mouth in interviews, it is very hard to believe a single thing that she says either.