Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

@Rainbowsandbutterflies1990
She claimed that she and Harry actually were married by the Archbishop of Canterbury three days before the wedding at Windsor ( Oprah interview). The archbishop publicly denied that this had happened.

Nope

Don't know her but her public image is awful. I don't like that. None of these are relevant

The Queen died before that plane landed so none of them got to see her that day.

It was sad that he left at 8.15 the next morning. It must be a bad rift if he couldn't take comfort from beeing with his father and brother at that point, or vice versa.

He flew back on a BA flight.

I agree with everyone who’s said they’ve made their bed. Actions have consequences. You’d think two adults verging on middle age would realise that.

I think if they divorce it will be Meghan who ends it, once she’s had her fill and decides harry is of no more use. Once they’ve sold all their trashy stories about the royals, and no one is remotely interested any more, then it will be game over. She will ditch.

The significant issue harry has is the children are being raised in the us. He will need to remain there until they are adults , she won’t allow them to live in the Uk. I think he’s given up so much now for her I think he would flounder without her. He just looks so unhappy now.

and I also agree that these are not a young couple. Meghan is 41 for gods sake. I don’t think it was ever intended to work out the way it has. They wanted the best of both worlds and I think they have neither. They are only paid for their notoriety and trash talking.

Isn't it funny how the wives who've left the royal family express how awful their experience was: Diana, Fergie and MM and they're all briefed against and vilified.

People believe what they're told by the press, God knows why when we know how they lie and spin stories. The Palace clearly spin stories about MM and Harry every bit as much as they talk about the RF. No one comes out of this well.

I'm sure she's a flawed person like the rest of us but the way she's talked about is appalling. I find it quite unbelievable how people slag her off as if she's some kind of child killer without seeing that she is in an impossible situation and once she left the RF she was never going to be treated well by the press.

Yet another thread full of hate and lies.

Meghan never said her children didn't get titles because of their race. Plum just never said that. Complete and utter lies.

Meghan didn't ditch her dad, her dad ghosted her and stopped speaking to her and ignored her many pleading voicemails begging to get in touch with her. Just lies that she's the one who ditched him.

The abuse and hatred started before they were even engaged.

Thank God Meghan has such a large and close group of friends dating back to high school on her side.

I don’t feel sorry for them. When they wanted to leave royal life and move to the USA I thought good on them, I imagine royal life is hard and to back out and start over elsewhere is positive. Then they started giving interviews and slagging the RF off and I think they crossed a line there. If they privately hate them we can all relate to that, we all have family we can’t stand, but I don’t think they should be airing their dirty laundry in public.

The RF don’t trust them and I can’t blame them, I’d be worried anything I say or do would get twisted and reported everywhere by them now.

Exactly, @Catlover1970

And trying to excuse anyone having anything but a positive opinion of her and her appalling behaviour as racism or misogyny really doesn't advance the lives of women or those of different races at all. She's being judged on her actions since becoming a member of the royal family and if she were a white man behaving as she has he'd get just as much criticism, probably more because he wouldn't be able to throw his sex or race at anyone who dared, as an excuse for his behaviour.

I thought she was a breath of fresh air and that Kate and William, and Harry and Meghan might be the more "modern face" of the RF. And I think she was badly and racistly (if that's a word?) treated by the press. I could understand their reasons for wanting to leave.

However I did feel dubious about some of the things she said in the Oprah interview, and subsequent interviews. And that has influenced my opinion more so than things I've read from a third party if that makes sense.

I don't feel sorry for them. They have every privilege. Spoilt, self serving people. They have done a lot of damage to the RF. Not surprising they didn't want her at Balmoral. She would definitely have told the world all about it.

I have zero interest in any of the "content" that are putting out in their media career. They aren't interesting or entertaining people. They are so wealthy they really should stop money grubbing.

There is huge enthusiasm in Britain for the marriage of Harry and Meghan and then huge disappointment when they decided to leave and do their own thing. I think most people wished them well - I know I did. But after the Oprah interview, things changed, especially after we found out that a whole lot of what she said was made up nonsense. Now it has emerged that she covets the role of celebrity but the very celebrity is built on the organisation she has married into. No-one would listen to her otherwise. And people only listen to hear the lastest made-up nonsense, like the whole of South Africa danced in the streets like they did when Mandela was released. Afraid she has locked herself into this spiral where only the simple minded believe her and she has become tabloid fodder. What’s more, she got her hooks into our Prince and took him with her. Tragic.

He isn’t, but if both Charles and William died while George is under age I expect he would become Regent. If Harry wasn’t around, it would be Prince Andrew, or if not him then Beatrice!

It was certainly odd that they felt the need to announce anything to the media - none of the other grandchildren did (did they? We only knew that William, as the now heir apparent, was travelling with two of the Queen's children).

It was inappropriate for Meghan to travel to Balmoral too (none of the other spouses of grandchildren did), regardless of the state of any relationships. Whether she was intending to or not is open to speculation but the only concrete fact is that she didn't and that was appropriate.

They are reaping what they have sown. I really liked Meghan to start with and had considerable sympathy with her over her families behaviour - however time to shown that they are both immature, spiteful and out of touch. As to the timing being bad for them - well I doubt there would be any good timing for any one, so there is nothing unique about their situation.

Spot on

There was no racist comments by the press. I read the press and didn’t even know she was mixed race till I saw her mother at the wedding. Just she makes a meal of it. Friends of mine who are mixed race don’t bang on about it.

I don’t feel sorry for either of them, they’re both grown adults who have made their own choices and decisions - even if they do behave like a pair of big babies. From what I can tell their choice to ‘step back’ was well supported by many. Certainly by most people I spoke to. My family are military and we were very much all of the opinion that Harry’s done his bit in many ways, Meghan had a lot to adjust to and if it wasn’t for them then fair enough.They deserve a quiet life if that’s what they want, everyone should be able to quit a job, even a royal.
Then came all the drama llama antics…
Meghan originally seemed lovely to me - turns out she’s just a stereotypical Hollywood so and so with a big ‘me, me, me’ complex, something off The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (she’d be great on that show I think). And Harry is just some knock off version of David Beckham or James Corden. All the British star power without any kind of star quality. It’s cringeworthy and their attitude in general just stinks.
I couldn’t be arsed with them if they were my family. I don’t see why they should expect more than simple civility from the Royal Family. I think that’s how any family would react to what they’ve done.

I feel sorry for Harry because his Grandmother has died but that’s about it .

www.nottinghampost.com/news/celebs-tv/praise-itv-royal-editor-calls-7531201

www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghan-markle-called-out-for-lies-in-interview-with-the-cut/news-story/7e17232b0fec3647023edc8b2f229224

The biggest lie is that Archie didn't get a title because he is mixed race. (in Oprah interview)

There are others if you can be bothered to look.

What? She has a group of high school friends? Were they at her wedding or her much publicised celebrity baby shower?

We all have to live with the consequences of our own decisions, even if we are a Duke and Duchess.