Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

ThisIsNotTheNews
Have you seen the front bench of the Tory party.
It puts the lie to your comments I.e. The racist Tory party, don’t you think?

lol. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?

Tbh, if a member of my immediate family slated me publicly in interviews and then had a warts and all book due out slagging my family off, I wouldn’t want that person at my death bed. And why would they even want to be if they have so little regard for her? It’s totally clear that the majority of the royal family have ostracised Harry and Meghan. They should read the room and in the case of Meghan, she should keep away from the family she despises so much.

I feel a bit sorry for them too. I think they've brought criticism upon themselves but at the same time that Harry LONGED TO BE HEARD I was going through the same thing. I feel like he just handled everything badly but I know I did that too. Harry talks about mental health all the time but how recently has he had therapy??? At the same time as my therapist was wisely advising me NOT to send the letter I'd written to my parents, Harry went on Oprah to air his side. I'm sure he held back a lot but still, it was all so public and that never helps and he made it harder for himself.

As for Meghan, as I see it, she has to be perfect and right and admired. She needs her rosy view of herself reflected back to her, so if there is any criticism of her she reacts to it really badly. She cannot just shrug and let the public perceive her how they do. No. She will launch a podcast or an interview to let the public know how they ought to have perceived her. It's so transparent.

They have enough money and they could live a quiet life but they have visions of living an obama/winfrey style life and it just cannot work. They aren't that interesting or clever and that sounds awful but the same goes for 90% of us but we get that and aren't trying to conquer the world.

They have made their bed- so now must lie in it.
I feel absolutely zero pity for either of them.
Self seeking, grandiose woman, who alleges stuff that patently isn’t true - Compares herself to Mandela?
Ok then.

Why on earth would the RF want Harry’s wife especially there , after she has caused such upset to the Queen?

Harry appears to be a weak, angry man, a puppet steered by his domineering money and status seeking wife-

Harry has effectively been split from his family by his partner- He looks so morose and angry in recent years.

There's nothing ridiculous about what @Scoobyblue said. It's ridiculous to think someone's deathbed should be a free-for-all.

And yet, just yesterday, in his address to the nation Harry’s father mentioned him and his family.

Perhaps if the Daily Fail hadn’t spent months proclaiming Meg’s as the second coming of Diana - which was quickly pounced on be the general public, she wouldn’t have ended up being such a “disappointment” to so many.

I hope that when they do eventually divorce that Harry finds an actual purpose in life and has support.

Pish they are the agents of their own misfortune. I too have a load of grievances I'd like to tell everyone about but instead I just shut up and get on with my life, and have therapy ikea a normal person.

Inflicting pain on the Sussexes? FFS have a word

I don’t think either party probably acted well. I do think Megan didn’t realise what she was getting into and hasn’t handled it well at all.
I actually used to really like her.

As for her being black, the reason people don’t like her now is because of how she’s behaved, I’d feel the same if she were white. I deliver unconscious bias training so am VERY aware of this.

If I was Charles or William I wouldn’t have wanted her anywhere near Balmoral. She can’t be trusted not to use it as fodder for her podcast or next sensationalist interview. And that’s the real problem, a concern that private moments will not remain private.

This is the crux of the matter. It seems basic common sense really.

And also, which family would want to be having to deal with all the difficult issues to do with the estrangement, at a time when a family member has only just died? It's a time for focussing on their loss, not thinking about how best to handle the objects of their (I would imagine) fury.

Actually, I DO agree that the DM's hate campaign (because that's what it is) against H&M is absolutely revolting.

And I'm someone who thinks they should shut up and go away.

Exactly. The two situations are completely different. We all know Andrew is sleazy and dodgy and nobody is fighting his enforced retirement. But Andrew values being a royal. He doesn't want to be kicked out. He's clinging on.

H&M left, tried to throw the queen over a barrel with their half in half out vision and then when that didn't fly, the narratives all changed and then there were biographies, podcasts, spotify deals, netflix deals and drum roll, harry's autobiography. You'd have to be a bit thick not to understand that there is at this point more to discuss / predict / analyse wrt Harry & Meghan.

Andrew is just going to lie low, and so he should. But how much discussion can be generated around disgraced royal lies low, fairly well.

Someone maintained Dianne Abbott was racist yesterday. MN is insane sometimes.

Suely we all agree with King Charles in wishing the best for

Harry and Meghan as they continue to build their lives overseas

They are nothing to do with the UK or The Royal Family anymore. We have to respect their choice but they should now leave the UK and the Royal Family alone to live their new lives without constantly harking back to perceived slights.

No sympathy from me. They made their bed.

I see that some are trundling out the same old, same old ‘ people don’t like Meghan because she’s black’. Maybe, just maybe, people don’t like her because she’s not a nice person? I was a big fan of them both, even when they chose to separate from the Royal Family. A lot of people were. I thought it was brave, and the right decision for them. But I’m afraid her unpleasant personality was there for all to see when they did the Oprah interview. The interview was unnecessary and is the sole reason people now dislike her - the same reason people also dislike Harry. The fact she is black is totally irrelevant.

Well his brother had the same childhood and possibly worse as I think Diana confided in him from what he has said and he was too young for that.

They chose this, now they have to live it.

Yes, he was giving his blessing to them going forward in their new life

I feel sorry for them both. Whatever my opinion on what they've done (and by anyone's account it's nothing compared to what PA has done) I think you would need support from family after the death of a loved one you felt close to. If Harry didn't feel close to Charles and William, its natural he might want Meghan there (even though the other spouses weren't all there)

However I have wondered how this would affect any further "disclosures" or interviews they may have planned regarding life in the RF as that would seem quite/more inappropriate now

Andrew is a slimy, odious piece of work but for now his mother has just died. Once the funeral is done and the dust settled I doubt we will see much if anything of him again. Charles made it very clear years ago that he wanted a streamlined Monarchy, which Andrew had a tantrum over as he wanted a role for his daughters. I struggle to believe that Charles will permit Andrew to have any role at all.

I just think Harry is miserable nowadays he loved his grandmother very much we don’t know what really happens behind closed doors but the videos and pictures speak for themselves he loved to joke around with the queen and you could tell they were close some of the best funniest moments are between Harry and the queen. He has looked unhappy and distant for a long time. It is all very sad

I was trying to be nice. I do wish them well and also wish they would shut up about the past, woe is me, such a hard life bullshit, and focus on the humanitarian angle.

Some of these comments r so bizarre! What i find fascinating is people have effectively decided what Harry and Megan have done/didn't do and then get really angry at that! We don't actually know what is said or isn't said or done in private . The media r just not 100% accurate. All these conversations we have no idea happened or didn't. Also its very clear the media is very bias. Some of the headlines are awful. I do feel for them. Imagine you live your life and the rest of the public feel they have decided how u feel or think and then hate u for it! What an awful way to live! I'm not surprised Harry wants out!