Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

No sympathy for her or harry they went against royal s so this is what you get

We have to feel sympathy towards them. Otherwise we are racist

Which leads to the question why should any of them be treated differently to you and other posters….. there is no such thing as being ‘Royal’ for any of them or any of us.

Charles was not on the plane, he was already there. Harry was not on the plane because only her children and William, next in line, were there.

Why does it have to be pro or against about everything? That's not real life.

The royal family have done plenty of less than commendable things.

So have The Sussexes.

I thought it was sad that Harry wasnt there but dont know whose decision that was, he must feel very isolated even if its his choice or fault.

Wait and see…..

They will say a castle can’t be left empty and Charles is already moving to Buckingham Palace while keeping Clarence.

I think this is where you have to seperate family and The Firm.

Harry's position in The Firm is now son of the ruling monarch and 5th in line to the throne.

He is above all the adult children like Andrew, Anne and Edward and their children in the hierarchy as The Kings son.

Meghan is supposed to be intelligent and boasts of her ‘understanding’. She demonstrates very little of these qualities.

I'm guessing it was his choice – he decided not to stay at Balmoral. Being estranged from your family at this time must be so hard.

But notice, with the exception of Anne's husband and Edward's wife, no other partners are there. Maybe that's why.

Apparently there have been photos of Harry with scratches on his face and hand? That sounds rather concerning. I can’t help but think behind closed doors the marriage of H&M can’t be thriving with so such bitterness inside them.

I don't pity her. I'd admire her for having the gumption to take on the might of the Windsors and their PR machine - as did her deceased MiL before her - excepting that like Diana there's no possibility she'll ever win. The Firm have already used the media to convince a malleable public that every word coming out of her mouth is a lie. I'm not so convinced that either Markle's a pathological liar or the Windsors above all blame.

There's a pattern to all this bearing the large fingerprint of Windsor PR, who play to what they see as people's particular weaknesses and present these to an easily-led public as evidence of unassailable truth. Compare the striking similarity of the rhetoric now surrounding Meghan to that swirling around Diana. She was at best neurotic, at worst had a serious personality disorder, fell out with everyone surrounding her, consulted with quackadoo psychics and embroidered and fabricated stories. Every single observation is identical to the stories now circulating around Meghan (except the psychics have been replaced with yoga and new-age mindfulness). Interestingly enough, these striking similarities are one thing about which few people have seen fit to comment.

There is documented evidence of racism in that family involving several members: the Queen Mother, Philip, Michael of Kent, possibly Camilla, not excluding Harry himself. Yet people are determined to believe H&M's claims to having experienced racism are outright lies, despite voluminous evidence to the contrary (more recently the racist brooch). I'm surprised it so seldom occurs to anyone that H&M might be in any way justifiably pissed off.

Not that people's family squabbles are that interesting. But the power and might of the Windsors, who pretend to have no power, deserves sunlight as just another reason why this feudal, anti-democratic system has had its day.

In H&M's shoes, with the Queen gone, I'd leave after her funeral and never set foot on British soil again.

I agree that PA will be edged right out to the periphery now and basically not expected to turn up to most royal occasions. It'll be interesting to see what they do with him at the Coronation. He'd better hope there are no more legal cases lurking in the shadows, I doubt that Charles will be too keen to bail him out again.

Why does the fact that your father happens to be the oldest child give you any right to special treatment over and above the children of his siblings? We know why William got special treatment, but none of that applies to Harry. If anything, Peter Phillips has a greater claim as the oldest grandchild who had known the Queen longest.

I think you are missing my point. Perhaps Harry was there as son of the King rather than grandson of the Queen.

When the queen died Charles became monarch. That is the reason there is a difference of treatment from the children of the Kings siblings.

Harry (and his wife) were mentioned in the speech the King gave, his cousins weren't.

I don't feel sorry for either of them - you reap what you sow.

You mean the ones widely discredited as being photoshopped?

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

Yes. This is what I have tried to articulate throughout the thread.

To me the similarities between Diana and Meghan are striking.

I notice neither Harry nor Meghan went on the walk about outside Buckingham palace. Good decision.

Neither of them is very bright, nor compassionate, nor profound, nor kind despite their continuous assertions to the contrary. Race has nothing to do with why I don't like them and why I find them untrustworthy, and entitled. I don't deny that MM experienced some racism, but to say that all less than glowing commentary is racist as many seem to be doing is untrue. If they attack the RF publically during this time of grief, for both the family and the institution, all remaining support for them will be lost.

It's right that the Royal family preserved the Queen's last moments as entirely private. If Megan had gone then there would have been a danger of private details being leaked. This is totally inappropriate & Harry's stupid if he doesn't accept why his family don't want his wife near them.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · Today 15:38

" The Firm have already used the media to convince a malleable public that every word coming out of her mouth is a lie. "

Her relationship with the truth and her recollections are really quite unique. She is doing a good job of illustrating to the public the veracity and accuracy of her relationship between the reality of here life history and events and her account of them. I doubt she and the public require any assistance here.

Please don’t believe everything that you read!
The daily fail and other media have started the “Meghan-bashing” again.

As soon as she steps foot in the country the racist media sites start the bullying again.

The King Or Queens eldest child is next in line to the throne, followed by their eldest child.In the Queens case, Charles.

Her other three children were never likely to become King or Queen and nor were their children. As soon as William was born he was
next in line after Charles.

They also didn’t want Kate there.

The King Or Queens eldest child is next in line to the throne, followed by their eldest child.In the Queens case, Charles.

Her other three children were never likely to become King or Queen and nor were their children. As soon as William was born he was
next in line after Charles.

Yes and none of that changes the fact that Harry was likely at Balmoral to support HIS father the King which is why he was there and not his cousins.