Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

While Meghan being "at the deathbed" (as others have out it) would not have been right due to Royal Protocol, Megan wanting to be with Harry, in the background supporting her husband in his grief, is surely what any loving wife would want to do?

I think I am right in saying they should automatically become Prince and Princess the minute Charles became King .
At the moment it is looking like Charles as if Charles has taken steps to stop that ( as is his right ) or H and M have not accepted the titles . I hope it is the latter.

I suppose they didn't have the option that normal families might go for — Meghan fly with him to Aberdeen (or even travel to Balmoral) and go to a hotel.

I would guess that's how normal families might do it. Grandchildren's spouses nearby but not actually at the house/hospital/wherever.

He needs to stop stirring the pot.

It's a real shame that royalists can't tell the difference between extremely mild criticism, and "abuse."

Honestly if you get this wound up by someone tweeting "William should hire more black staff" that you start shouting about "Kate being abused" then maybe Twitter isn't the right place for you. You seem extremely upset about people on Twitter criticising William.

I felt sorry for them - until they went on Oprah and slagged their family off to the world.

I haven't believed a word they have said since then.

**aides.

You’re the one who seems to live on Twitter.

Also another one who feels very sorry for Meghan and Harry .. they're away from their children and effectively shut out from their family. Harry had spoken openly about dealing with the trauma of his mother's death and now this will again be for sure very stressful for him . Kate and Wills, according to the right wing press can do no wrong and the Sussexes are the villains. Andrew sits next to the future king of England .. Harry cast out for no crime at all . I feel my love
For the RF waning with the passing of the amazing Queen.. this seems
like bullying from the rest - the fact that's she's a woman of colour also is not going to sit well with many.
The RF will begin to look unrepresentative for many across the world having locked out the only foreigner and staying silent whilst the DM kick her every day -how they can stand back and do nothing is shocking .

Sounds like this woman needs to get together with Piers Morgan, they'd be blissfully happy together slagging off Meghan every waking moment.

Why feel sorry for her, she’s done enough damage.

The RF will have to thread carefully. They are on shaky ground with the death of the Queen who was the one holding the monarchy together really.

William and Kate supposedly moved to Adelaide Cottage to get out of the goldfish bowl and made a big deal about not having life in staff to create a normal upbringing for the children. They will, no doubt, move into Windsor Castle within weeks.

Charles speech was careful to say he supported Harry and Meg’s continuation of their lives overseas ie they were no longer part of the RF.

i assume Harry was not welcome to travel in the plane with the others. I imagine the atmosphere was uncomfortable to say the least when he arrived in Balmoral. His place now is with the other grandchildren and not with the heirs to the throne. But this was always going to be his place once George was born. It is a pity he doesn’t have another sibling really. William and Kate made a good decision having a third child to prevent this happening again.

Completely agree.

You can't court the media (after saying you hate not having privacy) to make money and slag off your family and reveal secrets to keep ratings up and money coming in, then be outraged that your family doesn't trust you or want to see you.

They've chosen their path and blown up the bridge on the way out.

Sorry @StolenWillowTree I'm off to the shops. Thought I'd tell you because apparently according to you in a previous comment not leaping onto the board to reply to you is an indicator of Neo Nazi sympathies and I wouldn't want that following me around.

Toodles.

Possibly you are right. I'm just thinking though, if it were this case let's take Williams line.

William becomes King

George, Charlotte and Louis are already prince and princesses)

Georges children are Princes/s
Charlotte's children aren't she's female
Louis children are Princes/s

Then George comes to the throne but his nieces and nephews are now princes and princesses by birth.

What if Louis is like a mega breeder and suddenly he has like 7 children, whilst his dad/brother is on the throne, that's a lot of HRH titles for the sovereign grant to pay for. 😳

I have no sympathy for either Harry or Meghan. Awaiting the Netflix series about how poor victim Harry missed his grandmothers death. The pair of them make their money from flaunting their connections with an institution they process to despise.

Meghan's colour has nothing to do with the way people feel about her, she is a very beautiful woman. BUT she is also dishonest, self-serving, manipulative and selfish. That is why she is unpopular. She is bringing her American TV star prima donna style to the very private and traditional royal family. She wanted the royal glamour, but not the more challenging aspects of royal life. I think we all have more sympathy for Harry as he did not choose to be born into the royal family, a fate which has massive benefits and massive challenges.

I also expect a divorce there.

I agree with this. You could see Andrew really leaning in to Beatrice and Eugenie today on that Balmoral gates walkabout, and leaning in to anyone else who he could get to exchange words with him. Zara and Anne did briefly when he spoke to them. Female socialisation? Admiral Tim Laurence stayed away much more, and looked more like he didn't give a fuck about pleasantries with Andrew.

Sophie and Louise were actually tightly clutching hands. A very different and lovely, safe-making dynamic for the 18 year old.

But then there are plenty of Mumsnetters who defend Andrew to the death, so clearly some people have very different moral standards to me.

That is hyperbole. There has been victim blaming for sure, and every time it has been 'called out' (challenged, in old money) and MNHQ will delete when reported and where it is appropriate for them to delete. It is unfair to paint this site as sort of Andrew love-in. He is loathed here. Loathed.

Could you pick me up some white wine please ?

Why does the fact that your father happens to be the oldest child give you any right to special treatment over and above the children of his siblings? We know why William got special treatment, but none of that applies to Harry. If anything, Peter Phillips has a greater claim as the oldest grandchild who had known the Queen longest.

They will, no doubt, move into Windsor Castle within weeks.

Why would they do that??

Just seen the photos of the other senior Royals and Queen's grandchildren outside the church service, all v. upset as they look at the flowers people have left, and all I could think was, you idiot, Harry. He should be with his cousins now, hugging and sharing stories about their nan.

actually lolling 😂

Could you pick me up some white wine please ?

Is this some sort of code? 😅

Harry does have the right to marry who he wishes to ,as I said earlier.But I don’t think Meghan should have expected a member of the Royal family to leave Britain.
If you marry a British prince, you marry into the monarchy. Harry was a working royal back then.

If I married someone from the Spanish royal family for example, I wouldn’t expect them to move to Britain.

The rest or the Royal family had to take up the slack that Harry left behind. I’d imagine Williams workload increased somewhat.