Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

Yes. If H & M had maintained open communication channels with the RF, rather than communicating one-way only via press releases/Omid Scobie, they would have known that none of the grandchildren would be attending at Balmoral, other than William who, the moment the Queen died, would become first in line to the throne.

Why would they feel 'pressured'? Don't they have a 'PR team' to handle that sort of thing? Or simply say that they were still sorting out their plans? Isn't that what 'spokespeople' are for?

I don’t get why the press keep going on about Meghan.Who cares? Her and Harry are adults and the only reason Meghan is in the media is because they keep putting her there!

If the daily mail just let her be, she wouldn’t have any air time would she ? If Meghan really is an attention seeker, then the media are giving her what she wants.

Ahhh, all links to articles about Twitter I see.

Do you have anything that's not about Twitter? (Funnily enough you were very silent when other posters were saying credible death threats from Twitter accounts belonging to members of Neo Nazi terrorist organisations are "just someone's idea of fun" and "Twitter isn't real.)

Anyway none of those links are about Kate being the victim of abuse?

These are the tweets that are apparently "abusive":

" "Perhaps if you have a spare ten minutes search the name 'Meghan' and have a deep reflection."

"Charity begins at home, W."

"Long night? Bit late in the day for this tweet. Meghan would have appreciate similar support but hey ho. Can’t have everything."

Please tell me exactly what about those tweets is "abusive" I would dearly love to know.

TQIDLLTK · Today 14:56
Perhaps I've misunderstood but wasn't Harry going to Balmoral from Germany? That would take a bit longer than from England.

I believe he had already returned to the UK in preparation for his speech at the Well Child event that should have taken place on Thursday evening

Yet more horrific "abuse" against Kate that's definitely far worse than Meghan being called "a whore" and people name-changing to claim to have a friend in BP who saw her punch a child.

"William how about Hiring more than 1 Black person for Kensington Palace."

"Yet you had no words when your sister in law spoke of the racism she was experiencing first hand, from the country and it’s media. Interesting."

"Now let’s address the racist abuse aimed at Meghan Markle, shall we?"

"If only you would have had such strong 'words' for Meghan and Harry though..."

"Where was this statement when they were coming after Meghan?"

I feel so sorry for both Harry and Meghan.

The way they have been treated has been disgraceful. In my opinion it's due to William's jealousy that Harry was outshining him.

The royal family have used the media to smear Meghan and make her life so bad that her and Harry had to flee to America for the sake of their mental health.

Is she perfect? Of course not. No one is but people jump on any opportunity to make her look bad and it's just so blatant that I can't believe so many people fall for it.

H&M made the last few years/ months of the Queen’s life a living hell. They will not get my sympathy vote any time soon.

They dropped the Oprah bombshell as the Queen’s beloved husband lay dying. Most of what was said was untrue or taken out of context and twisted, but that didn’t stop them.

We then have to endure the naming of their child - Lilibet despite being estranged, and claiming the family are racists, they choose to name their child after said head of the family. What a terrible insult that was!

They set up a pretend royal tour and the Queen has the sheer audacity to pass away in the middle of it, and despite being in the same country when she was very much alive but clearly very ill. They had ‘no plans’ to see her.

It then takes Harry a staggering eight hours plus to arrive at Balmoral - I assume because Meghan is wishing to be there as well, despite it being totally inappropriate, and clearly there were issues as Prince Charles had to intervene even though his mother had literally just died!

And you have the sheer audacity to tell us you feel sorry for Meghan??!!

What planet are you on?

It’s truly despicable

she heard that Kate wasn’t there and quickly changed the narrative to save face. She wasn’t welcome (why would she be?) - when it came out she wasn’t there, her spokesperson Omid Scobie very obviously inserted that “like Kate,” Meghan was staying in London.

load of spin.

Yes, this^

Look regarding the royals and Twitter trolls. There will always be vile people who spout threats on social media anonymously.

Ive seen a tv show about troll hunters. They were either middle aged jobless people who had very little in life, or young people who looked like they had mental health problems.

Obviously these vile people should still be reported to Twitter. But if someone really was going to target the Royal family, why would they announce it on Twitter?

Scobie has tweeted this, does this mean A and L won't get their titles or is it just because there's a delay and they need to be officially granted them?

(Funnily enough you were very silent when other posters were saying credible death threats from Twitter accounts belonging to members of Neo Nazi terrorist organisations are "just someone's idea of fun" and "Twitter isn't real.)

Sorry for having a life outside MN and not responding to every post you chose to make. Are you now implying that as well as being psychotic that I have sympathy with Neo Nazis on twitter? just for the record, you understand.

All those articles will be about abuse on Twitter because that's where the abuse takes place. No comments about all those articles referencing abuse to the PoW, then? just quibbling?

Please explain what in those quoted tweets is "abusive".

Ahhh, so you're saying there's been no abuse of Kate other than on Twitter.

I see.

My father in law said his friend is considering leaving his wife because she has an unhinged obsession with hating Meghan Markle and its getting of hand.
Too much right wing press and social media. The woman needs to get a life and do something worthwhile with her time and thoughts.

I dunno, I wasn't there, and I'm not them, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

I know if Huw Edwards in a black tie and suit with a sombre face was basically asking me for an update through the TV I'd be a bit "panic stations" 😂

A lot of the hate for Meghan revolves around her being foreign and coming across as ungrateful that she was 'allowed' into the Royal family.

Of course there was racism also, but I think an independent, white American actress who was very liberal and 'woke' would have still got hell from the UK press, especially if she refused to play the game and be passive like Kate- no outspoken views, nothing outside of mainstream politics, living off the 'Firm'.

This was always going to happen, she was a millionaire, divorced celeb when she met Harry, not a student nobody from a social climbing family like Kate (who I love).

Ahhh, so you're saying there's been no abuse of Kate other than on Twitter.

So abuse is OK if it's on Twitter, got it.

It had nothing to do with being welcome or not. There’s simply protocol which was followed.
How would you or I know if she would be welcome or not?

My very basic understanding is...they won't be given the titles under the letter patents, because at the time they were born they were the great grandchild of a ruling monarch.

And anything below heirs and sons/daughters of a monarch when they assent to the throne, their title (great grandchildren) doesn't retrospectively change.

So the only people who see changes to their titles in this scenario is Charles, Camilla, William and Harry.

Hence why when Archie was born Meghan was correct in saying Archie wouldn't be a prince.

I could be completely wrong though so don't quote me on that.

Of course out all the overwrought tabloid articles hand wringing about the fact people on Twitter aren't kowtowing to Will and Kate as much as the tabloids think they should, remains the fact that the tweets I copy and pasted from the article MrsDanvers linked to are not, objectively, "abusive."

Honestly the finest screenwriters couldn't craft parody and satire this well.

People call Meghan a whore, Neo Nazi terrorists get convicted and sent to prison for wanting to kill her family, and the most anyone can come up with is "but but but once someone tweeted that William should hire more black staff!!!"

Are you serious?

I was watching the live coverage and didn't hear any mention of the Sussexes until they got their 'spokesperson' to make an 'announcement'. Same as I didn't hear mention of any of the other grandchildren other than William.

And when the plane carrying him, Sophie, Edward and Andrew arrived in Aberdeen, none of the BBC commentators were sure who was on it until they were seen disembarking. So it's certainly not the case that the royals felt 'pressured' to give exact details of their plans to the BBC. The Sussexes actively wanted it out there that they, both of them, planned to go.

What about "William should hire more black people" and "Yet you had no words when your sister in law spoke of the racism she was experiencing first hand, from the country and it’s media" do you consider "abusive"?