Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

@StolenWillowTree I notice you’re happy to call people liars. Also psychotic and evil.

Why are you allowed to be hateful but everyone else is in the wrong?

Please link to this abuse. (And not on Twitter, since that's "not real").

And obviously anything that is legitimate criticism about her work or past or present actions doesn't count.

Actual abuse please.

I'll wait.

Why get your 'PR team' to 'announce' at all? And if you're determined to do so, surely you'd wait until everything had been confirmed?

None of the other grandchildren felt the need.

Yes I think one of them might have 'read it wrong' and made an announcement that has jarred.

However this could have been precipiated by something that other posters have referred to - not just their (his?) FOMO but a more profound fear and anger that again they were being put 'out of the loop'. I think H probably felt a bit humiliated (seen this in his interviews before) and looked to M (again) to help sort it out.

Then M makes a bit of a horlicks of it (how would she know monarchical death protocols??), and M takes the flack.

Andrew has brought shame and disgrace to the Royal Family.

Harry and Meghan are still throwing the worlds longest temper tantrum because they were told that they can't commercially profit from their status.

Charles needs to stamp firmly on all 3 of them, and push them into the private family zone and leave them there. There is no place for any of them in a new progressive slimmed down Royal Family, and I hope Charles is able to head in the direction that he's had many years to plan.

Because they are media whores the pair of them

@StolenWillowTree Have you ever considered that you're obsessive about her? and are you going to address the issue of the vitriol directed at the Princess of Wales by Meghan fans - I notice you've ignored that - or does hate only goone way?

I think a few posters have lost the plot, sadly.

I don’t think they ever had the plot.

I've only called people liars when they were objectively provably telling lies, such as claiming Meghan said something on Oprah that she verifiably did not say, stating that she has become estranged from all of her friends when that is evidently not true, or claiming that not a single person defended Andrew when there are dozens of screencaps of posters saying Andrew did nothing wrong and that Virginia is a "whore" who is "lying and making it all up for attention."

Already responded and waiting for you to supply proof.

H: I have been asked to go to Balmoral by the palace and papa.

M: I'll come with you Harry

H: OK, announce we are on our way PR team.

phone call from palace: Due to protocol just H not M, apologies.

But maybe they could have checked before announcing anything?

Or whoever asked him to go in your scenario would have told him that it was just him?

She did indeed. Although she wasn’t a Royal then and didn’t expect to be treated as one. She talked about her marriage to Charles, I don’t think she slagged the rest of the family off did she? Long time ago now.

Why should Harry be anymore special than other grandchildren? Why should we feel more for him and his spouse than the others when it comes to not making it to the queen's bedside? I think the only reason they are in the news is that they sell more magazines than saying Zara and Mike didn't make it.

Because they are a family, all the stuff about him being the favourite and her being able to talk to him about things she can't talk to anyone else about is really rude and must be hurtful for his cousins who are also her GC and also loved her. Apart from the fact that Charles and William are affected in a way that none of the others are the rest is family and one GC isn't more important than another, more precious than another or more entitled to a seat on a plane. They also don't have any more obligations than the others so if he hadn't gone he shouldn't have come in for criticism any more than the others who didn't go.

Perhaps I've misunderstood but wasn't Harry going to Balmoral from Germany? That would take a bit longer than from England.

I take all the stirring with a giant pinch of salt because I remember all to well the cruelty of the press hate mongering around Fergie and Di back in the day. Conflict creates readers...

I think the victims of that were William and Harry. It must have been hell for them at boarding school. The same when Charles did it. There are royal obligations but there are also obligations to children and their welfare didn't seem to be considered.

Of course this is a forum where someone (not me) not that long ago started a thread saying "AIBU to think Kate made a poor decision to wear so much expensive jewellery to meet NHS nurses" and it was immediately taken over by outraged Kate fans saying how "abusive" and "spiteful" it was, that the OP was "vile", that it was "bullying" and "not in the spirit" and the thread got deleted very quickly.

Apparently saying you don't care for Kate's jewellery choices counts as "abuse", calling a rape survivor "a whore who is lying and making it all up for attention" isn't "defending Andrew", and calling Meghan "a whore" and name-changing to post that you have a friend who works in Buckingham Palace who says that Meghan is a child-abusing monster who everyone hates is just fine.

Got in fucking one ( well several points!)

Have a look over in the DM, more Meghan bashing than showing respect to the Queen and celebrating her great life.

I mean Jesus right wing press, can't we move on from this bollocks now?

It was, yet again a mess of their own making. The others went straight to Northolt and boarded a plane. Meanwhile Harry and Meghan faffed around with the press over her involvment. They eventually announced he would go alone 2.5 hours after the other flight had left. Should the others have sat on the tarmac and waited while their mother died so H and M could play out their drama?

Her death was announced once all her children were gathered Harry was not the only grandchild who wasn't there

Wherever he was it was probably all a bit chaotic at that point. I thought it was more odd that he didn't fly back to London with his father the next day. Two men who are so big on the environment, you'd think sharing a plane might have occurred to them.

I suppose they weren't thinking straight but it seemed odd to me.

Why shouldn't the son of the heir be treated differently from his cousins?

Why should he? Charles has an heir and a spare. The heir now has an heir and 2 spares. There is no reason for Harry to be treated differently from his cousins. He is a grandchild. We all hear how he was the favourite of the queen etc. But we don't really know that, it could be just because the press likes to say it. I feel for Harry and I feel for the other grandkids but I don't really like it when his feelings are publicly out above anyone else's.

@StolenWillowTree

metro.co.uk/2021/03/10/kate-middleton-targeted-with-racist-abuse-and-threats-over-meghan-row-14219270/

meaww.com/william-kate-condemn-racist-abuse-against-england-players-fans-say-meghan-appreciate-similar-support

Plus google 'kate meghan abuse' about trolls on both sides abusing both women, and that's without wading into the twitter cesspit. But funnily enough all you mention is the abuse Meghan gets. Why's that?

darmaka · Today 11:40
Yet you don't judge the queen for her family supporting and benefiting from colonialism, the commonwealth and slavery but you are here praising the RF - how does that work exactly?

Slavery was abolished in Britain in1833, and I don't think anywhere was colonized after 1952 (when the queen took over). Maybe there were residual benefits, from the past, which we all shared, I don't know. But must we all be responsible for the crimes of our ancestors? Oh, and I understood that the commonwealth was voluntary? Nations ask to join, and a number have.

If you were watching the live coverage on the BBC at the time, when Senior Royals had announced they were traveling, questions and comments about the Duke of Sussex were coming in to conversation.

There was an understandable air of urgency for travel to Balmoral by the family, and updates in the developing situation.

Maybe HandM just felt pressured to answer what the BBC were asking of them, were they going or not?