Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

I dont know I think she's got it quite easy doesn't she? Poor Charles is mourning his mother but he is being trotted about like a prize horse, I think William was trotted out today too wasn't he? Meghan and Harry too if he likes can go back to the US at any point and leave it all behind if they want. There is nothing required of them, they don't have to play any part in the whole show that will taking place. She can be by her husbands side back home or in the Ritz or where ever they want really as they don't have any duties to attend to.

Harry can grieve privately for his Grandmother with his wife and kids. Harry is a minor royal with no duties, Meghan is a the wife of a minor royal with no duties. William is now next in line to the throne, Williams wife will be Queen consort and is mother of a future King, I feel more sorry for them with all that they have coming than I do H&M tbh.

@StolenWillowTree Maybe you need to take time off twitter and also block the tweets that upset you. You are clearly following a whole load of stuff that upsets you when most people don't read it.

I can dismiss things on Twitter as someone's idea of fun without meaning that I think it IS fun.

You seem a bit wrapped up in twitter.

Most people do not use or read twitter.

Obviously you are not gender critical and haven't seen the organised attacks TRA have made using Twitter, and the real-world violence that has resulted.

Sorry you're so dismissive of TRA and Neo Nazis using Twitter to organise, but in the real world most people who are not deeply naive are aware of the dangers of social media as a tool for radicalisation and spreading hate.

On the other hand, I saw Prince William at an official event and the security there was crazy. Lots of men in black!

You've answered your own question, H&M can't stop giving exclusive inside scoops to the press, documentaries and autobiographies. I wouldn't want either of them within a mile if my family while we're grieving knowing everything you say and do will end up on Oprah 🤷🤔

WRT security for H&M as non-working royals they are not entitled to it unless they are doing something involving the RF. if they come here on one of their haunts they pay for it themselves. Why should the tax payer fund them. The6 have plenty of loot she is making by running the RF down in the media. Sorry, no sympathy from me.

I can dismiss things on Twitter as someone's idea of fun without meaning that I think it IS fun.

Anyone who dismisses Neo Nazi groups, or coordinated violent attacks on GC women as "someone's idea of fun" needs to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

@mum2bee2022 is right.

You could also argue that Diana grew up in the UK and was party of the aristocracy, so she knew the rules and what is expected. Megan did not.

@StolenWillowTree Okay you have made your point and it's way off topic now. You can stop being patronising, thanks, and I don't wish to 'talk' to you here, as you are very aggressive.

Re:Twitter and security

I'm willing to bet that JK Rowling has a shit-ton of security.

Psychologically it's quite usual for a person to act out in a way that's perceived as 'entitled' or 'arrogant' to others, if they themselves feel a resentment that they are thought to have been raised in some kind of 'lower class' way. (Sorry for all the inverted commas here.) They 'act up' to the status they desire to have.

If someone born into some kind of super-status falls in love with them, that 'high status' person will often do a number of things, sometimes simultaneously: lean heavily on their partner for their needs to be met; 'climb down' to their partner by adopting new beliefs and behaviours that seem out of character to those who know them; want their partner to be grateful for this.

Social isolation usually follows. With a couple in the constant limelight though, much of it really unpleasant, it's going to be a real pressure cooker.

Voilá: folie à deux et descente dans la folie.

Unless someone turns the pressure cooker down.

I just think when you are a royal or marry into it, there’s things you can and can’t do. And going on talk shows making seriousl allegations is one of them.

Yet this is exactly what the sainted Diana did in the Martin Bashir interview.

I'm an Orthodox Jew and my family were killed in the Shoah.

Unfortunately I don't feel I have the option to dismiss Neo Nazi hate groups as "just a bit of fun" the way JaneBrownings does.

Diana's father was a courtier and she grew up on the Sandringham estate. And IIRC she knew the young royals, as well.

Nolongerteaching · Today 10:53
What’s therapy IKEA? Is it when you wander around the store aimlessly then pick up a candle and a pretty throw before eating meatballs in the cafe?
I could get onboard with that.

A brilliant idea! I just wish I lived nearer to an IKEA - maybe I should move...?

It feels idiotic to call her 'The Duchess of Sussex" as she's made it clear she despises the royal family and insults them and spreads gossip about them on a regular basis. Let's just call her Meghan for a start.

I don't like the royal family at all, but I did respect the queen, and I think the only thing Meghan might be feeling right now is guilt that she made the last few years of the queen's life stressful and embarrassing. (Not her alone, of course, but her as well.)

Also she might be feeling a bit annoyed that the attention isn't on her during her big trip. It seems like it's all just publicity/fame to her. You can see how much she doesn't give a shit by the fact that she was going to travel to the queen's death bed before she was asked not to, despite all the upset and humiliation she and Harry have caused with their gossipy interviews. Just seems so clueless and lacking empathy or basic understanding and decency.

Anyone who dismisses Neo Nazi groups, or coordinated violent attacks on GC women as "someone's idea of fun" needs to take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

As does someone who conflates too many things and arrives at the wrong conclusion.

You are WAY off topic and I'd ask you - politely- not to start accusing me of things that are untrue. If you persist, I'll report your comments.

I'm not the one lecturing Jewish posters who object to CONVICTED NAZIS that death threats are "just someone's idea of fun", and making rude, condescending and extremely aggressive posts.

I couldn't care less how many people are on Twitter. I am not limited to Twitter - for something to trend, it doesn't need to be only on twitter. This is so basic.

Every single thread on here about the RF mentions Meghan - WHY?
Why are you so threatened by Meghan. . . .
All your tabloids have Meghan plastered all over even during mourning of the Queen - if this woman is so insignificant and unimportant, why are you all so scared of her. Why are you constantly posting comments and writing articles about her.

The Middletons have not done an interview, got their facts wrong at the Oprah meeting and moaned and complained about their lot in life. Again and again. She is a disgrace and there is no issue with living your life quietly without having to give endless interviews and veiled threats about what is coming next.

Of course they didn't! They couldn't risk it. Kate's been engineering meeting and marrying Will since she was a tween. There's no way on this planet her parents would have ruined it.

I've already reported your comments for hate speech.

You explicitly said that racist and Neo Nazi death threats shouldn't be taken seriously and there's no need for any security to look at them and try to figure out which ones are just trolling and which might have intention, because Twitter "isn't real" and it's "just someone's idea of fun."

Those are you very direct words, in response to my post about Neo Nazi terrorists being convicted and sent to prison because of online posts.

I think maybe if they were invited up, it might have clashed with an engagement they already had, so they politely and declined as they had a clash, but the press will have twisted it to be "they snubbed her in her last days" as always 🙄

Sorry I haven't RTFT but Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara, and Peter didn't go either, and all of them are her grandchildren by blood. It's not a slight against Meghan that she didn't go.

Again, they got their 'spokesperson' to 'announce' that both of them would be going to Balmoral. None of the other grandchildren felt such a need. That's hardly the fault of 'the press'.