Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

I don’t feel sorry for them anymore. Around her wedding I used to wonder how poor Meghan put one foot in front of the other with the vile stories her dad and sister put out. But it turns out she is cut from the same fabric. Which is basically punishing the RF by spilling your version of the truth to the media for likes. She is no different to them. Didn’t anyone teach them the best revenge is a happy life? That Oprah interview when Phillip was dying was despicable.

Exactly.

I would dearly, dearly love for JaneBrownings to go into one of the threads in Feminist Chat and repeat her comments that Twitter death threats are "just someone's idea of fun" and that there's no need for any security investigation because it's not real.

Well, this WAS quite an interesting conversation and was pretty reasonable until hijacked by all the 'ur just haterzzzzzz.'

@savethebeesandthecees ·

The hatred towards her is because she

married someone
moved with her husband to her homeland
dumped her narcissistic dad
called out her in-laws (like her MIL did)
earns her own money
successfully sued the DM
is black

Nope - utter twaddle.
I was all for her until Oprah, her lies, acting like a victim and attention seeking.

None of what you state above has any relevance to the fact that I no longer like her or want to be supportive of her.

But isn't their PR team heavily American and outside of RF protocols? (Happy to be corrected)

So maybe they assumed, a spouse would support their significant other on such a journey, released it, to then be corrected and told spouses are not to come as per protocol. So MM stayed and H went alone as per protocol.

Sort of a crossed wires, one announcing on assumption before actually being briefed sort of scenario?

I agree with all of this. I think the arrangements for travelling to Balmoral, however they came about, seemed to me to underline the change in Harry's position. Not included in the senior royal party called to balmoral on Thursday but not in quite the same category as the rest of the grandchildren who seem to have gone to Balmoral today. It must be difficult to manage.

Harry lost the chance to see his grandma before she died. No excuse - but demonstrates how it's all me, me, me with the pair of them.

Harry and his wife act like entitled, selfish teenagers .
Their degree of self~obsession is off the scale- Especially hers.

As PP have suggested, definitely both are enmeshed - He seeing her as “She who must be obeyed “ and she sees him as a way to make money out of connection with his family.

It's incredible that anyone would still be sympathetic towards the Sussexes after so many examples of really shit behaviour from them.
Of course it would have been awful if she had flown up to Balmoral.

IMO, Meghan didn’t immediately get that no matter how brilliantly she carried out her role she would never be equal in importance to a lot of other royals - even those of her generation. Kate, Harry, William would always be more senior to her regardless of skills, politicing, appearance, anything. She would always be second rate compared to her husband and her SIL, through birth not skills.

Not being able to respond to media negativity must also piss her off.

But press intrusion not the scale of issue she claims.

Yup, that’s exactly my take on it.

Meghannwould not have been invited, because she is a spouse, not a relative. Sophie was invited because she was very close to the Queen, as well as being a daughter in law ( not a grand daughter in law).,Protocol rules everything thé a royal Family do in public events, which the passing of the Monarchist

I think Meghan announced she was going , invited or no. She would not have been in the guest list for the plane from Northolt.

So then there is a looooot of trouble in the Sussex household. Come home soon, Harry, Megs wants to know what happened(? And so do Netflix?)

This!

I think it's the 'announcing' it that's the problem rather than the content. Nobody else felt they had to announce their plans, they just got on with it

The treatment of Harry and Megan has been disgusting. The Queen passed at 4.30. They waited until Will, Andrew,Edward and his wife arrived to announce to the world. Harry was not offered a seat on their flight to or from Balmoral, they then announced her death to the world whilst Harry was still in the air alone. They should have waited for his arrival. They should have allowed him on their flight. Andrew is yhe disgrace in the family and apparently Will does not speak with him, yet they travelled together. Clearly slot of what Harry and Megan have said about their treatment is accurate.

But the ‘freak show’ is the only thing she has to sell. Suits aren’t hiring.

I suppose it varies, I am, well was, ginger, DH is black and we wondered about all the combinations possible. In the end our DD is similar to Meghan in colour and hair. I think it also depends who says it.

Yes, so annoying when people interrupt the hate fest, and point out lies, isn't it?

Some posters honestly seem really annoyed that opinions other than their own exist, they want MN to just be a circle-jerk of interrupted hate.

Hating Meghan is literally a sport for them.

There are plenty of other forums where they have no limits on what words can be used to describe Meghan, and being pro-Meghan or even neutral to Meghan is not allowed. Perhaps certain posters would be happier there.

*theworldhas · Today 13:36

Basically some people hate her because she married into our most “precious” cultural institution - thought “wtf is this freak show, no thanks!” and then buggered off back to the States.

The rest of the whole drama is just either side trying to polish the above. ^

This!*

Bollocks. She buggered off because she wasn't the star of the show. And if it was a 'freak show' then I'm sure the RF will be very happy for her to announce that she doesn't want to be known as Duchess of Sussex and her children won't be using HRH, not will she and her husband be expecting any funding.

I wouldn't worry. She'll be busy working on a Death of the Queen Netflix Special already.

William was the only GC on the plane, are you up in arms about Peter, Zara, Beatrice, Eugenie, Louise or James? William is an exception because he is now heir to the throne but I don't understand why Harry seems to be deemed so much more relevant than his cousins.

Have you read the interview with Meghan in The Cut? She made a barely veiled threat - she said she’d been picking up Frogmore House when they came back for the jubilee (which must be bullshit considering how long they’ve been gone, and someone else has lived there since). She said she found a journal she kept when she moved to England and it was interesting to look through, or words to that effect. As if she’d have left that behind! Barely veiled threat to write a book or something. Why the fuck would they let someone like that be part of the most private time of the most famous woman in the world??

^^ This.

I wouldn't want my children's husbands/wives there even if I really liked them. I want my own flesh and blood.

It was about her and her family - not about some annoying woman Harry has married! (he needs to get rid - the whole world can see she's a mistake, bizarre how he's keeping up the pretence !)

My Mum was ill some 6 months ago and only wanted me to visit , not my DH. I had no problem with that and neither did DH.

William is an exception because he is now heir to the throne but I don't understand why Harry seems to be deemed so much more relevant than his cousins.

Harry is the son of the King, the others are not.

That is why the King professed his love for them both in his speech and made no mention of the others.

The gathering at Balmoral was a right of passage for the King not just the demise of a grandmother.

Yes, so annoying when people interrupt the hate fest, and point out lies, isn't it?

Is there any other word you can use but hate, oh dauntless crusader for truth that you are? that one's been beaten flat and rendered meaningless through over use.

Incidentally - if we're talking about hate fests, you might want to look at what Meghan fans say about the Princess of Wales.

No sympathy whatsoever. She's a grown woman, not a naive young girl like Diana was. She's university educated, done work for global charities and once divorced so she's clearly not stupid or inexperienced.

If they'd simply moved to California and focused on their charity work instead of cashing in on their royal connections everyone would have moved on by now. She has chosen to give explosive media interviews, of course Harry has said plenty of controversial and unflattering things but Meghan's comments have clearly been worse, and many things have easily been proven to be lies.

Just this latest comment about being a good mother because she took her children away from English paparazzi, there are NO paparazzi outside schools waiting for royal children to come and go as was just proven during the Cambridge children's first school day.

Another comment about Archie's title and security, absolutely no link to him being mixed race like she suggested. The Queen granted Charlotte and Louis princess and Prince titles because William is a direct heir to the throne, nothing to do with their race or Archie being 1/4 black and everything to do with Harry's position in the line of succession.

I mean, if someone said racist comments about my baby I would not want to speak to them. Not sure how that's Harry's or Megan's fault?