Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

[8AndGreat]

It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

I don’t feel sorry for either of them. I don’t read the newspapers, and rarely watch news or magazine programmes on the TV. I don’t know either of them.
I was pleased that Harry had found someone who he cared about, but he’s been so peripheral to the RF in my eyes, that I couldn’t have given a damn who he married.
Both are trashy, loud, and self-serving, who have tried to play both ends against the middle. Their body language is very telling, switch off the sound when they’re doing an interview…lots of acting and lies going on, whilst they verbally bash on about honesty and equality. They mouth wanting be separate from RF but appear to speak of nothing else to garner support and money.
As a woman of colour, I couldn’t care less what her race was, I thought she was a tanned actress. I don’t like or rust them. End of.

Um, you made a claim about what was being said on Twitter.

Yes, if you make a claim about something that's happening on Twitter, then you need to actually look at Twitter to fact check whether the statement about something happening on Twitter is true or not.

Do you often struggle with basic logic?

You seem awfully preoccupied with Twitter!

I am honestly glad he went. I think he needed to be with his father, who must have been so happy to have him there.

Just think his travel plans did not need to be announced by Omid Scobie.

Charles is the one I feel something for right now. I hope things thaw with them. He obviously loves Harry and Meghan very much.

Number of active Twitter users in the world - 206 million.

Global population - 8 billion.

My bubble’s bigger than your bubble!

I don’t feel sorry for them but I wonder if their desire to be out of it is still as strong given the Queen dying

What about the King’s speech yesterday evening at 6pm?

I don't know how far "trending" on twitter varies by region, or even if it is individualised, but the top 5 for me are

• Sophie
• Air Force One
• Prince Andrew
• Union Flag
• #AbolishTheMonarchy

i dont-they werent even going to see her while they were here i think thats disgusting and he'll regret that

Are you... claiming to speak on behalf of the World?

He ‘loves’ Harry and Meghan so much that he withdrew security from them when they moved to America.
They had to get security protection from an American film producer.

Please don't use the word "whore" about Meghan.

That kind of word is misogynist hate speech and should never be used about any woman.

Some utterly shameful and shocking behaviour on here.

I don't think that's true. I was very much team H&M when they got married: I thought Meghan could potentially be a breath of fresh air in the RF. She had built a successful career and seemed intelligent and generally OK, and I thought it could do nothing but good to have some black blood in the RF. When they lift, I was prepared to sympathise with their choice to get out of the goldfish bowl, particularly given the way some of the media were going after Meghan.

However, their recent behaviour has turned all that round - they seem so petulant and wanting to make everything about them, and they way they are seeking to make money out of Diana's memory seems particularly distasteful. The fact that Meghan lied about the supposed previous wedding ceremony wasn't impressive. There was a recent example of her peculiar conduct in the fuss she made about the incident with the alleged fire in the hotel bedroom when Archie was allegedly in the room - till you discovered that there was no fire, and Archie wasn't there anyway. Sadly, rather than making themselves important they are making themselves look like fame-hungry wannabes.

When M realises it isn't working I fear they will divorce, and there will be a really horrible fight over finances and the children. Harry will need all the family support he can get at that point, so I hope for his sake he can mend some fences now.

Prince Charles announced his love for H&M. I don't doubt that he loves his son but think it pretty unlikely that he loves his son's wife.

I am not going to talk about Meghan here, Ian going to take about Harry.

He is not a boy child, but a grown man. And, he is a grown man who has had to live with media scrutiny his whole life . He must have known that leaving so early the following morning would cause comment.

He wouldn't have had to have seen his father or brother. He could have had a lie in, or walked around the gardens until such time that his departure wouldn't have caused attention.

The fire was confirmed in South Africa's most respected broadsheet newspaper.

No proof she wanted to be there. That's just speculation on this thread!

Not quite; that they were both going was announced (though later retracted) by their chosen spokesman Scobie

That's no guarantee he didn't just make it up of course, but since lying could jeopardise a major source of fame it seems unlikely he'd risk that

@StolenWillowTree

Agreed. As much as I despise her recent behaviour and actions, there is no need to use language like that.

If you decide to leave Royal service and go abroad, you don't get to claim the benefit of security funded by the British taxpayer. He presumably would have had the same level of security as other minor members of the RF if he had stayed in the UK.

I’m actually looking at it from a family perspective, not what the media are saying. She wasn’t close to her dgmil. Nothing wrong with that but no need to feel sorry for her. My dh’s gm is also frail and I think the end is near. I wouldn’t go to her death bed as I would want to give the close family members their space and privacy. When she passes, my role will be to support my dh and look after the dcs. That’s all M has to do too.

Its very hard to feel sorry for someone who knowingly married into a tradition, and proceeded to slag it off. Its also very hard to feel sorry for people who claimed they wanted out of the public eye, then showed what they actually wanted was fame on their terms. I don begrudge them that fame, plenty of people do that, however, it came across as dishonest.

I felt for Harry, the pictures of him alone in that car driving from the airport after the news had been announced, its a hard time for anyone, but to make that journey alone in the public eye, I really felt for him, and as much as it was inappropriate for meghan to attend balmoral, I don't blame them for wanting to be together as a support network for Harry. I understand this is perhaps his own doing, but there's times when it should all be passed aside and a family should come together and its sad to see harry was alone.

I also don't dislike meghan, i find some of her speeches to be quite charismatic, and i think she is a beautiful, intelligent woman. However, i think she should have walked away from a relationship with a member of the royal family if she dislikes everything the RF stand for.

But there is a balance, the crown is very sensitive about public money. People were quite vocal about "not paying for their security overseas"

You also have to realise that the Public Protection officers who would have been assigned to them would basically be living in the US. Many of them have families in the UK, you want them to do 6month tours of US with Meghan and Harry?

It's also the met's decision who has this security dependant on threats. The threat assesment may have actually reduced when they decided to live in the USA. We are not privy to how/what dictates the threat assesments.

They were still funded by Charles's money for a interim period, so maybe he thought they would use that money to get security.

Who knows though aye, it's all just guess work. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Who gives a shit? Bloody farcical circus!! Why all this attention on a super privileged family that does nothing but help continue keeping the little people in their place? And everyone is swallowing it hook, like and sinker