Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

[8AndGreat]

It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

Yes I think there is hidden racism and unconscious racism and misogyny against Meghan including from posters on here claiming to 'support' her.

There another thread I stepped away from last night where they were discussing Meghan's clothes and then some started metaphorically dissecting her actual body like she was not just a glamorous 'clothes horse' but a piece of meat. It was weird. Is that misogyny? It's bloody well something.

No - they are American too, so have a right to stay in the USA. British law has no jurisdiction in another country. The USA is not a British colony. As you say Fergie WENT to the US and left the kids in the UK. These children LIVE in the USA - big difference.

I don’t feel sorry for her. She’s only been in the family for a short space of time and lives abroad. She’s quite unimportant in family terms. Constitutionally, H is becoming less important. The focus will be on the king, the new POW and his family. That’s the way it goes.
She must be feeling out of her depth. Who wouldn’t?!

If your world view is based on the cesspit that is Twitter I feel very sorry for you.

she's met the queen a handful of times, slagged the royal family off publicly and then wants to be there at the end? good grief.

It's fear of the mixing of blood. And misogyny.
A potent mix.
Sad that the most hateful are women.

I haven’t rtft so sorry if this has been said before.

The plan wasn’t ever for Harry either to go - if it had been he’d have known the arrangements and flown with them. It wasn’t meant to be ‘everyone legging it to Balmoral’

It was her children who were there and William, who was to be heir to the throne.

None of the other grandchildren of the queen went. So why would Harry?

Exactly. They are both US citizens and Lili was born there.

What exactly do you think Charles has the power to do over citizens of a foreign country, copy the Queen and send 007 to go jump out of a parachute to stuff them in a sack?

The USA takes pretty dim view of their own citizens being threatened with kidnap!

Honestly some Mumsnetters think we're living in the 18th century.

I would never ever feel sorry for the near billionairess Meghan Markle , no, no way!!

I feel fortunate not live in your little bubble.
It's embarrassing for Britain that Meghan, Harry, Lilibet, Archie are trending with supportive messages from all over the world. The actual Queen died but they are trending.
Even you a non supporter, here writing about them. Why not support the Q instead?

I wonder if Meghan is looking at all the happenings and ceremonial of the last few days and in the coming week and realising just how much the royal family is woven into the country's life and just what being part of monarchy involves. I'm thinking of the proclamations today, the way it's been done for hundreds of years, the grief that so many people are feeling and the tributes that are coming in from all over the world from not just ordinary people but real political hard hitters. I have the feeling that she thought it was posh frocks and premieres and she's now realising what it really entails.

Yes poor little rich girl 😥

It's embarrassing for Britain that Meghan, Harry, Lilibet, Archie are trending

It really isn't. We've got weightier matters concerning us right now.

I would think that generally people who sleep with other married people lack judgement and moral compass

Oh for goodness sake, Charles and Diana were almost arranged marriage. He didn't want to marry Diana and did so out of duty.

And sleeping with the person who love, married to someone else or not, doesn't make you a racist. What a silly analogy to draw. In any case, none of us actually know what she said as we weren't there so nobody is in a position to judge.

Nope. It's not about her.

No proof she wanted to be there. That's just speculation on this thread!

@StolenWillowTree

If you actually bothered to fact check you would see all the tweets trending for Lili are about Harry and Meghan's daughter.

“Fact check” and “Twitter” are not generally two phrases I would expect to see in the same sentence and, I hate to break it to you, Twitter is not real life! Do you really think the average person in the street is saying “Meghan has more mentions than the Queen on Twitter, that’s ruined my day!” Get real.

Totally.

How dare she have a career before she married him, come from a different culture, class and race.

How dare she fall out with her father.

How dare she prefer US clothes designers.

Poor Harry, completely under the thumb and incapable of making decisions on his own. He's been 'bewitched'.

Dreadful.

@StolenWillowTree

Yes, the change was gradual but I don’t think it was so obvious until Harry married. I don’t think the difference in treatment would have been so noticeable while he was spending time with W&K and before he had his own wife and children.

Comparison being the thief of joy, I got the sense from H&M interviews that they are angry about not being treated exactly the same way as the now 2nd in line and his wife.

The media certainly likes to use them as foils for one another. And posters here often bring up Kate in a thread about Meghan.

I think my comment has been twisted, if Harry one day returned to the UK with the children and then sent her divorce papers it would just start a legal battle over the children.

It happens daily, how many children are taken back to their "father's" country and never returned. There are mother's right here in the UK who can't get their children back because of international law and red tape.

But as I have tried to clarify, I don't believe it would ever happen because despite popular opinion I believe Harry and Meghan are a happily married couple and I can't forsee any doom and gloom for them.

Charles was already up there, so wasn't on the plane with William. Harry isn't the spare any more now that George and his siblings are around.

If he tried to go around stealing babies the scandal would destroy the monarchy.

You'd think, wouldn't you? But they seem to be able to survive anything. And every survival just seems to embolden them - from the Savile friendship through the phone hacking and confessionals to the grim Andrew situation.

I can quite easily imagine that Charles R could instruct a shared custody arrangement that somehow would be 'agreed upon'. We are currently watching the power of this institution play out live, for days on end.

But I don't envisage a divorce unless Meghan instigates it. Harry leans on her too much. I think she is careful about having the children in the UK.

She is probably already drafting her next podcast.

"Why Harry was late....the secret plan to make him miss his grandmothers death bed"

"Shuttered away....how privilege and racism meant I was shunned and left alone while Harry went to Scotland"

"My trauma...How the death of their great grandmother will leave indelible scars on the kids"

"What's in a title...Why I've decided that keeping our titles and privileges is the best way of undermining those titles and privileges"

In answer to your question I feel a bit sorry for both of them. Harry’s a bit dim and Meghan appears much smarter than him on first impression. But as it’s gone on I’ve been less and less convinced she actually is.

Neither of them look happy I don’t think.

The problem is that they can’t live a quiet life and make enough money to live as they want to. So the Netflix etc was fairly easy to predict. They will continue as it makes them more money stir up more shit and the cycle continues. There is no way of them getting out of it unless they accept a more humble life which they won’t. So it’s unhappiness all round.

If she is so unimportant why are there constant DM articles about her ,?
Also why are there so many threads about this unimportant woman.?
Doesn’t one simply ignore those who are unimportant