Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

[8AndGreat]

It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

But Harry and William were the only grandchildren to be there. The Queen was probably equally close to her other grandchildren. That seems more unfair than Meghan or Kate's presence

I don't feel sorry for her but cannot believe the amount of vitriol she gets because why?? She slagged off some of her in-laws publiclyyeah, so what?! Dissension exists in most families-I guess the RF are just like any other famjust in the public eye.

She is a spiteful, social climbing women who is pulling all of Harry’s strings.

Know her personally, do you?

God forbid, a half-white, non-British, low-classed woman aspire to join our esteemed all-white elite lineage, dahhhling!! And she works for a living---how plebian!!!

And, poor dear Harry, so controlled by the *evil' woman!!!

Lilith, eat your heart out!! You've got nothing on MM.

@ThickCutSteakChips

This pretty much sums up how I feel about it. She thought that she was going to come over here and be a super star and change the Royal family into what she thought it should be. That and the belief that she could just demand the British public's loyalty. No one can do that, it has to be earned. Not because we are racist. Kate had to earn the public's support and loyalty. She joined the Royal family very gently, and spent a good 18 months building up a good relationship with the British public. Harry and Meghan's wedding proved that there were plenty of people who were happy to have her in the Royal family, and over the following months, she snubbed them. British people don't take shit, she lost that support and threw a massive tantrum over it.

Now with all the lies she has told and been caught out on, she thinks she is damaging the Royal family but she is just digging herself in deeper.

I do feel sorry for the way the papers hounded her. Unfortunately they do that to the Royal family, especially new people marrying in and I don't think that she was properly prepared by Harry for that.

A pp said that apparently it is Camilla who made questionable and potentially racist comments about Archie?

if true, that would be shocking!

She never said that, you are lying.

She said there were plans for Charles to issue new Letters Patent once he became King to take away the titles they would receive on the Queen's death. We have no idea if that's true or not and have no way of knowing, since it's obviously far too early for him to have issued any new LP, and if he did make those plans the amount of bad press almost certainly would have changed his mind.

Yes, @DamnUserName21. She’s a republicans’ dream. Or would be if most of us couldn’t see straight through her and the demonstrable lies she tells.

Reported by liars who live off the media circus they create. The truth is that the tabloids know Harry and Meghan are more popular and that hate articles about them sell - they get LOTS of traffic to their websites - even here and I suspect why they allow it to carry on. How can you have over 250 articles in one day from one tabloid about one woman? You would think she was Hitler or something.
Comments from people on these forums just prove this point.
They make things up, suggest what she should do. Meghan doesn't have to do anything that she doesn't want to. I believe the family gets on reasonably well. She is much loved by many family members - although I don't doubt that Kate and Will dislike her. They've never shown her the same affection and kindness Harry did to Kate. But what family / in-laws does not have some sort of drama . . .

Your own queen dies but Meghan and Lilibet are trending in the UK. That must be painful to watch. It's why she is hated and bullied constantly.

In a way I do feel sorry for them, so many missed chances to visit her.
he must feel really horrible now.
Someone mentioned on one of the <hundreds >threads on MN that he’s the one the Queen worried about the most. And I think that’s so true.

i really believe they need to rethink all those deals via Netflix , books, podcasts and just start concentrating on their humanitarian work. No use in playing the "victims of the RF" card now , feels so pointless.

I don't feel sorry for her, she has problems with everyone , estranged from her own family , In laws and no real long term friends. If you have so many problems with people maybe the problem is you and not them. I find it hypocritical she disowned her father for him selling stories but expects the RF to accept her with open arms when she has done the same to them.

This is nothing about race, you can be a difficult person no matter your skin colour.

Yes her large group of friends were all at the wedding and at the baby shower.

This list is regularly copy and pasted into Meghan bash threads but everyone lies and ignores it since it proves their lies about Meghan having no friends for the vindictive libels they are.

Original post was written right after the wedding so add 4 years onto all the years.

Benita Litt (MM's best friend since school, MM is godmother to her kids, she sat next to Doria at the wedding, and her two daughters were H&M's bridesmaids)
Genevieve Hillis (friends since college, she co-hosted MM's baby shower)
Lindsay Roth (friends since college, they "met in a Toni Morrison literature class")
Daniel Martin (a makeup arist who met Meghan in 2008 when she was a struggling actress, he did her makeup for the wedding)
Heather Dorak (friends since she was first a struggling actress in LA)
Markus Anderson (one of her best friends who she's known for more than a decade)
Abigail Spencer (met at an audition more than a decade ago, when they were both struggling actresses. They later worked on Suits together but they were friends before that)
Janina Gavankar (friends for more than "fifteen years" per MM's old instagram posts, they met when they were both struggling actresses)
Serena Williams (friends for eight years, met at a charity benefit, she co-hosted the baby shower)

“God forbid, a half-white, non-British, low-classed woman aspire to join our esteemed all-white elite lineage, dahhhling!! And she works for a living---how plebian!!!”

Did you not see the hoopla on their wedding day and thousands lining the streets to wish them well? No one gave a shit about her being mixed race and ‘non-British’ - we were all genuinely excited to have her in the RF. She’s not low class either - she was middle class privately educated. But make up what you want… most people don’t agree with you anyway.

Why would she say it if it wasn't true . . . I feel Charles was probably being pressured to do this by other family members - it only affects Harry's kids so you can see why it looks shady.

Meghan didn't not say that it was because he's mixed re: titles. We were all listening - clearly people here lie to fit their own narrative.
Why would Charles take away his own Grandchildren's titles if they are due to receive then when the queen dies. . . . it's never been done before, why now?

I feel sorry for all of them tbh.

I do believe that Meghan experienced racism and xenophobia when she married into the Royal family. And quite probaby class prejudice as well. She was certainly treated very badly by the British media. And I think it's highly likely that she was given insufficient support to cope with the pressures of adapting to Royal life. With the history of what happened to his mother, I think that transition must have been incredibly difficult for Harry as well as for Meghan. It isn't surprising that they chose to walk away.

That said, I think that they have been deeply misguided to spill all through their various interviews and podcasts. I know that they probably did it as a cheap way of cashing in on their Royal status in order to replace the public funding that they walked away from, but airing their dirty laundry in public like that was only ever going to make the situation much, much worse. The rest of the family will be very hurt by what they must see as an immense betrayal, and they must also be frustrated by the fact that Harry and Meghan can make whatever allegations they choose without the rest of the family ever really having any proper right to reply. I imagine that Harry now deeply regrets some of the things that have been said about his family, but he can't take them back.

Given their propensity to talk about what happens behind closed doors in the Royal family, or at least, their interpretation of what goes on, I think it is inevitable that the rest of the family won't welcome them with open arms on occasions like the death of the queen. It is not unreasonable for them to want to be allowed to grieve in private.

Actions have consequences and all participants in this sorry drama are having to deal with those consequences now. I believe that there is fault on both sides, and it's just very sad, given how close Harry used to be to his brother. I don't really care about the Royal Family as such, but from a purely human perspective, it's sad to see a family hurting each other in this way. I hope that they can find a way of patching things up.

She made 15 lies in the Opra interview (Opra is known for being a lightweight interviewer in that she doesn’t probe/question what is being said, there is no fact checking). Race is a subject in the US that is very sensitive, so doesn’t get scrutinised like it would here. They make very few films about race (as Brad Pitt stated it took a Brit to make 13 years a slave). She’s now living in a country that founded no race mixing (anti-miscegenation law) and up until the mid 20th C it was illegal for whites and non whites to marry in California (even when it became legal less than 3% agreed with it, with Sammy Davis Jr having to marry a black woman he didn’t know to keep his career). So with such a past any comment on race is just taken as word.

She’s an actress, and it’s very rare for an actor/actress (especially so from the US) not to have an inflated ego or be self absorbed. With any narcissist everything is about them. Her apparent comment that people in South Africa celebrated the wedding akin to Mandela being released from prison.

She was an ugly duckling apparently with frizzy hair and a gap in her teeth (only caught that comment as it was on Lorraine)...given that black women have frizzy hair she has just insulted an entire race, likewise with anyone with a gap in their teeth. It’s all about the me.

She may have had a messed up upbringing but that’s no excuse to be so unlikeable. Harry seems to have become more obnoxious since he’s been with her (I don’t recall him being anything like this before).

Meghan is already once divorced, completely estranged from her own family bar her Mother, and now estranged from her husbands family too.

Either she is reeeeaaalllly unlucky with the people who come into her life, or.........

I don't feel sorry for either of them. I'm sure she's just waiting for the opportunity to use the queen's death to her advantage. I'm sure we'll see one or more of the following from the sussexes.

*using Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet wher and when ever she can
*referencing Lilibet's name where and when ever she can
*complaining about not being able to be there at the deathbed / there for Aitch (that's what she calls him)
*sharing the queen's last moments / words with Oprah or podcast listeners
*telling us what the queen died of
*referring to herself as the King's DIL as much as she can
*digs about the new Princess of Wales, references to Diana (Harry might make digs too)

We know that, but I am sure you have seen the tabloids saying she's from Compton etc - They are popular and have supporters but even back then they had lots of negative press! Lots - for no reason really.

Oh come on. She'll get a Netflix deal out of it. She's probably negotiating now. Anyway, useless Harry will do a runner one of these days.

Then why does she have a wonderful and very close relationship with her mother, and an extremely tight and close group of about ten friends who she's been best friends with since college/early acting days?

Why does Serena Williams and other longterm friends sing her praises and say she's a wonderful friend?

Why do the entire cast and crew of Suits even down to extras say how amazing and wonderful she is and that she's still a good friend? Why did some of the cast come to her wedding?

The fact you feel the need to invent such malicious lies, and lies that are easily proven as lies, shows that you have an agenda.

@Blossomtoes
There are multiple sides to every story and an element of truth to many lies.
But it's amazing you can see 'straight through her.' Met her often, have you?

Couldn't put it better than this.

This in spades, Zara/Eugenie/Edwards kids all weren’t there and vilified going or not. If my grandma was dying hell yes I would want my husband to go with me for support.

Can I just say it's not about what Meghan wants if a person is on their deathbed they have a right to say who they want there. I would be livid if someone who caused me nothing but drama wanted to be near my deathbed. Even the plebs are allowed that choice.