A positive and non-bashing thread about Meghan and Harry

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

I have rejoined Mumsnet after leaving a few times. The first time I left was because I was concerned about the coverage and uncomfortable undertone of the commentary on Meghan Markle after the engagement was announced, before she had said a word, and before she had married into the Royal Family.

I came back around the time she and Harry left the UK, to be stunned by the pages and pages upon pages of virulent threads. At that time Mumsnet actually banned all threads about Meghan, it had become so toxic.

They have now made their lives in Montecito, but still the virulence continues. Yes, she speaks in a mix of therapy plus corporate gobbledegook, yes, she is occasionally vapid and irritating.

But who is she actually harming that she deserves all this virulence?

Yesterday, when the new UK Prime Minister was elected, the coverage in the Super Tory Daily Mail was all about a seven minute speech to a bunch of young people. Article after article after article. Body language experts. Counting the number of times she said "I" in a speech in which she sought to inspire young people by attempting to relate to them. Before that, 18 articles were devoted to the first podcast by the Daily Mail alone. 18!

Same with her podcasts. The series is about HER and HER take on labels, and she discusses HER take with HER guests.

It's all very anodyne, even vanilla. It does not deserve any of the vitriol sent her way.

SO:

As the next twelve weeks are going to be wall to wall Meghan, and the Meghan haters and detractors have several threads here that fill up rapidly with bile, scorn and mockery, I have started this thread, reminiscent of previous " positive" threads, to talk about what some of us like, enjoy, find amusing and even (gasp) admire, in the next few Meghan rich weeks.

If you don't have anything positive to say, that's okay, you can keep to the existing threads.

Looking forward to a bile-free discussion of everything Meghan!

I can't keep repeating myself

That's an excellent technique you've got going.
Anyway people can throw insults out like 'gold digger' and 'pursue' but nobody made William and Harry marry their wives. Both couples seem very happy together.

Oh please. One of the Queens other grandchildren (Beatrice) managed to have a small intimate wedding out of the public eye. The new King himself married his divorcee wife quietly, and without fanfare. Please don’t say with a straight face that the public and the RF demanded that Harry and Meghan stage the billion pound wedding spectacle. And that’s all Harry was, the Queens grandson. He wasn’t special.

Oh please, yourself. Are you really comparing Beatrice who was, what, 10th, 11th in line, with William, who is (was at the time) SECOND IN LINE?? And Harry, who was third in line?
??

Seriously?

Charles had no choice to marry his divorcee wife quietly. He was not allowed to have the traditional Royal family wedding.

Seriously, use some critical thinking before you write such rubbish.

And I'd say being THIRD IN LINE TO THE THRONE is more than just a little 'special' and 'the Queen's grandson'.

SIXTH, not third.

Wasn't he fifth in line when the engagement was announced? George and Charlotte had been born and bumped him from third. He was actually sixth in line by the day of the wedding as Kate had just had Louis, but the planning would have been done when he was fifth.

Yes, I came back to correct my mistake. I was thinking in terms of before William married and had children. When both were unmarried.

I did NOT bring up the term 'gold digger' Derxa on this thread. Please don't say I did. Stop making up stuff

Another poster did and that was what my post was about. Your technique is very iffy, go and challenge the poster who called Meghan a gold digger

One of the Queens other grandchildren (Beatrice) managed to have a small intimate wedding out of the public eye. The new King himself married his divorcee wife quietly, and without fanfare.
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One was during Covid and the other, he had no choice. He was marrying the woman he'd been involved with whilst married!

Beatrice was 9th in line when she got married, while Harry was 6th. Not that much difference really.

Apart from William, any of them could have had a private wedding. I think to say the public made them have one is a bit shitty actually. Like they were sacrificing themselves for the good of the nation! And as they were happy to diverge ftom royal protocol whenever it suited them (without criticism from the RF), it seems they were perfectly capable of saying no. The only conclusion you can draw is that they wanted a high profile wedding.

Charles had no choice to marry his divorcee wife quietly.
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Meghan is a divorcee.

go and challenge the poster who called Meghan a gold digger Shan't 😆

Now we're getting to the bottom of it 😂

I think that you are being disingenuous.
Just look at the criticism Meghan received by saying that they had a small wedding in the garden
Imagine if Meghan and Harry had insisted on a small wedding. Some of you would have accused Meghan of cheating the British public out of the opportunity to see Princess Diana’s younger son get married
Also , Beatrice probably had a small wedding because of all the issues surrounding her father Andrew, the one who was best buddies with a convicted sex trafficker

Also , Beatrice probably had a small wedding because of all the issues surrounding her father Andrew, the one who was best buddies with a convicted sex trafficker

It was during Covid times and a good excuse for the public not to see her father

One of my nephew's did this, he got married the day before the rule of 30 changed so he didn't have to have all the family 🤣

Apology accepted.

I’m not stating that William and Kate could have dodged a big public wedding, but Harry and Meghan could have married any way they wanted. Apparently there were raised eyebrows about Meghan insisting on wearing a white dress and a veil as a divorcee. I think the RF would have considered a quiet private registry office wedding most appropriate.

Just look at the criticism Meghan received by saying that they had a small wedding in the garden.

Noooo. People criticised her for saying she'd got married 3 days earlier when she hadn't. Not that the two of them and an archbishop had practised their vows in their garden.

No, the criticism was because:

1. She lied in stating they were married 3 days before, they weren’t.
2. Her assertion that the big expensive wedding was for the baying public, and not what they themselves wanted. Rot.

In hindsight M&H should have one of the famous MN weddings. The bride and groom, the Archbishop of Canterbury and two witnesses grabbed in off the street. Then off for a wedding breakfast of tofu and chips at the Dog and Duck.
Everyone wearing jeans. Well maybe not the Archbishop.

MN is fascinating.
Meghan and Harry can never do anything right in some posters’ eyes
I remember the criticism they received for not giving the press photos of Archie and Lillibet.
These same posters would probably accuse Meghan of exploiting her children if she was to release photos of the kids regularly.
Meghan and Harry may as well do what the hell they want because they are going to be criticised anyway
Meghan must really love Harry to put up with all the criticism and bullying.
I am a tough cookie, but this would break me.
She must be made of some strong stuff

Meghan and Harry may as well do what the hell they want because they are going to be criticised anyway I agree.

I genuinely do not think Harry or William could have had a private wedding. I know people who don't like Harry and Meghan try to differentiate them from William, but Harry was the son of the future (at the time) King and brother also of the second in line. It's not like he was the son of Andrew, or Edward. He was the son of Prince Charles, first in line to the throne. There is absolutely no way in the world that Harry and Meghan could have had a more private wedding. Maybe if he were the child of Anne, Edward or Andrew. But certainly not considering he is the child of Charles. No way in the world. I think anyone who truly thinks that Prince Henry could have a private wedding is absolutely fooling themselves and dreaming. No way would it have been allowed. The pomp and pageantry is would be mandatory, on account of his father.

A so called positive , non bashing thread has turned into the usual anti Meghan tirade.
Sad but expected

This is all very odd - I think that Roussette has a valid point. You cannot apply this label to Meghan without applying it to Catherine. It’s strange that the moment she has made this point people are pointing out the misogyny but that’s exactly the point she’s trying to make - it’s a sexist trope.