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Just to continue the discussion

At best MM was the US equivalent of the actress who has been on Eastenders since she was a child

This actually made me giggle because I immediately thought of Bianca and Ricky!! If I remember correctly they did a lot of whining too.

Sounds like his father’s Prince’s Trust work.

I could be wrong but I thought the issue was that MM said she was taken aside by a member of the cast who then likened the reaction to her marriage to Harry as the same as when Mandela was freed ?
Yes there are photos of the couple chatting to people but I don’t think that’s the point .

so because twitter is full of hate you have to bring it here.
@Roussette yes and I recognise a lot of the posters from those threads on here.

Yes there are photos of the couple chatting to people but I don’t think that’s the point

I think the point is very clear. The DM made up something. Everyone jumped on it and called MM a liar, when that was clearly not the case.

Here is the footage of a warm exchange between her and Lebo Morake.

twitter.com/PaganTrelawney/status/1565055399321128964

This sort of thing will go on forever. The trash Meghan business is a multi million pound one, a lot of people make a lot of money from these articles.

Agreed @Samcro some if the things said about the Duchess of Cambridge are utterly vile and extremely anti-feminist.

Why is it always the ‘be kind’ people who are so misogynistic?

I think it should be fine to criticise people for their actions and words but constantly picking on someone for how they look, what they wear or their preferences is pretty low. All the #teamsussex seem to have is bitchy critique of her weight, disingenuous snipes about her parenting and wide eyed jabs about how they don’t know what she does.

She does the job without complaining and just gets in with it. I respect her for that.

Sorry @Roussette but where is MM being taken aside ?? In my opinion that IS the point . She said that something was said but there is no evidence .
And I am going to reiterate - who in the media called her DC the n word ? That needs to be clarified.

I think it was a big mistake to catapult Harry into a working Royal role in the way that happened. I couldn’t understand it at the time . He went from being a jolly young man ( on the surface) who isn’t very bright and had no experience of engagements like that , into a full time role as a senior Royal. His experience up till then had been focusing on his own projects with the Forces and Africa. These issues were close to his heart and he had something important to offer. It left him plenty of time to be ‘off duty’. By all accounts, he was kicking about Nottingham Cottage with not a lot to do beside playing Polo etc , but he wasn’t required to go out and meet people and support causes he hadn’t much interest in or experience of.

If it’s true he is triggered by flash bulbs, why would he be put in a situation where he was dealing with that and the press on an almost constant basis? It was so short sighted.
On top of that, Meghan was expected to just get on with the life from the off. No time to adjust to a hugely demanding role in a foreign country , within a very strange and alien institution. She married very quickly and got pregnant very quickly. Lots of huge life changes to deal with all at once and little time to reflect or catch her breath. That tour in Australia was ridiculous for a just pregnant, just married woman .

The Palace just did no think it through, just in the same way as they expected Diana to just go out there on gruelling tours and engagements when she was very young inexperienced, just married and soon pregnant. Of course it was a catastrophe in the making.

I just don’t think the Palace consider the psychological impact of entering the RF as a senior Royal with no background of public relations work. Meghan was an actress and used to the public, but not on this scale. Meeting thousands of people , being on camera all the time, having little personal freedom or chance to escape .

If anyone with half a brain had sat down and really thought about all of this, they would have done things differently. Kate and Sophie had years to get used to the whole circus and take baby steps. They had a long time as girlfriends first and knew the family well by the time they married.

PH could have taken over the Princes Trust from his father . He could have upped his game with pet projects which he felt passionate about. Meghan could have been eased in gently , focusing on work with disadvantaged women and animal charities.

Meghan did want to plunge in straight away by all accounts, but experienced members of the Palace staff should have taken the reins and been very careful about what they did and how soon. It seems Meghan should have had a lot more training in the way things work and the expectations long before she undertook engagements.
The issues with her father would have affected her a lot emotionally, and that coupled with pregnancy must have been a lot to cope with. No one seems to have thought about that or put in measures to protect her. Maybe that’s why she feels so aggrieved and bitter.

Perhaps, just perhaps , things might had worked out differently in a another scenario.

Sorry @Roussette but where is MM being taken aside ?? In my opinion that IS the point . She said that something was said but there is no evidence

Do you have evidence of your private conversations?! 😂
No. No one does, not you, not me, not Meghan.

On the latter part of your post, I have no idea, why are you asking me?!

Also why is it always women who are expected to be able to cope with huge amounts of stress and expectation within the RF? I can’t think of a single male spouse apart from Philip who was expected to make his life about the Firm and go out there on tours and engagements with little privacy, constant Press intrusion and little preparation. Men don’t have to deal with pregnancy and breastfeeding whilst doing so either.

Also, Harry was clearly fragile mentally. You would have thought that would give pause for thought!

@SilverLiningPlaybook
Great post, and I agree with a lot of what you say. And your subsequent two posts.

There is something very very wrong with how the RF deal with 'incomers', particularly female ones. They haven't learnt from Diana.

But they (at, least, Meghan) wanted to "hit the ground running". She wouldn't have taken kindly to being told to stay in the background for a year or so.

Yes, it does resemble it. I honestly can't remember Charles ever being criticised for that initiative and it seems to be regarded very positively. It would have seemed sensible to me for them to have looked at something that had worked/was working and expanded on it. They also had the Commonwealth Youth Ambassador roles to work with as well.

The current direction of travel seems to lack real focus and building something tangible and given the potential that was there (and demonstrated in the Grenfell work etc) it is a shame.

It’s a very good post in al,regards. Yes men are treated differently,Ty and actually a I think all no heir spouses of royals should be able to keep their own lives. But Meghan didn’t want to listen to their advice. They even said she could keep acting and they would help her. This to me is the most progressive thing they have ever done. But Meghan was insulted. She didn’t need to jump in…she could have taken her time but that isn’t what she wanted. Could they have insisted? Who knows.

Also on the Princes Trust it seems the Earl of Snowdon has been for a long time earmarked to take this over. He already goes to many of their events. And given his own career it seems logical.

what happens after that who knows.

Rousette

you’ve just cited a tweet from a random Meghan fan?

And if the composer mentioned was indeed responsible for comparing MM to Mandela, why isn’t he supporting her publicly? His silence speaks volumes. Presumably, like Mandela’s grandson, he wants to distance himself from such an embarrassing, self-aggrandising couple

Something is very wrong with a person who says that people think they’re on a par with Mandela.

her and Trump debating would be so funny, the fact checkers laptops would explode

I think this is the point - they wanted the adoration, the crowds, the validation of being front and centre. They drove it. There was no holding them back - just look at them now! Courting publicity all the time. The Queen even gave MM the choice of continuing to act...she turned it down.

Really agree with all of this. The echoes of what Diana struggled with in the early days are very apparent. Time could have been taken to explore ways with them of playing to their (undoubted) strengths and insisting on a slower pace would have ultimately been more supportive.

Perhaps it was Harry that insisted that Meghan be given her due as a working royal, without considering that his SIL & aunt Sophie had years training for their roles & his aunt had made mistakes by not taking it slowly.

Maybe he was worried that had Meghan known what she was letting herself in for, she’d have bolted.

Frankly no one would have blamed her for that. It’s the way they have gone about it that aggravates.

Say: beloved family but cultural differences & expectations would have been so much better for them all, than victimhood without taking some of the responsibility as well.

She should have been made to.

Obviously I am not being clear . MM said she was pulled aside - I am simply asking if anyone has evidence of this strange thing . She has previous for being economical with the truth which is why so many people are sceptical.
The second part was really a general question as I think that is so serious . It wasn’t aimed just at you .
In my defence I am unwell at the moment so maybe not as articulate!

I would love to have seen someone “ making “ MM do or not do something!

Exactly. Have we forgotten “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets” already?