More Of Meghan’s Archwell podcasts…

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Just to continue the discussion

To be fair the RF is a petty tradition, more or less, so to try to ‘modernise’ them is to defeat the object of them in the first place

An insightful post, Wouldloveanother, and this is exactly why I cringe whenever a newcomer's called a "breath of fresh air" because there's usually little doubt how it'll end

It's pretty clear that the RF don't want fresh air - they want the privilege in all its forms to remain absolutely as it is, though with plenty of spin to pretend this isn't so

I mean, all of them. They’re not supposed to be ‘just like us’. They’re not celebrities, they’re royal. They’re supposed to dress to the nines, display impeccable manners, have no political opinions and be photographed bored shitless as they cut ribbons and have tours of primary schools.

Oh my god😳

So many more people are becoming infuriated with Meghan and her diatribes - particularly the podcasts and interviews released this week. Do you think that M & H might be trolling the world to create bad feelings which in the case of a few people might turn into threats. The threats are seen by the Met who provide personal security when they arrive in the UK next week - and, in their eyes, Harry's won?!

Just a thought........

No they're just stupid.

Again - this conversation - especially with the racial history in the US - is an ongoing discussion between black people in the US and is best left alone if you’re not from the states or black. Black people from outside the US frequently get their knuckles rapped in discussions about this due to different lived experiences.

“So many more people are becoming infuriated with Meghan and her diatribes - particularly the podcasts and interviews”

I’m currently listening to her discussion with Mariah and am loving it - it’s interesting some of the things they’re talking about in navigating their experiences as mixed race especially about hair products that are well known mostly to black people like Pinks 🤣.I’m really loving Mariah’s story and although I knew her Mum was an opera singer it was lovely to hear her sing.

It was a good few years ago but I’ve never forgotten it because I’m in a cross cultural marriage, my children are bi-racial but their identity is that of where they were born and grew up. So for eg, they never go to the UK and identify as British. They’ll say my mum is British but I’m ………

Its something I’ve thought of often in regard to MM since Oprah was at the wedding and they are supposedly great friends and this week I’ve thought of it even more after she said ‘ I wasn’t treated like a black woman till……..’ I think it was a very strange thing to say and once again it had me thinking about her comments on race when it doesn’t look to me as if she considered herself African American.

Really.

I didn't know that about Mariah's mother! Talented family.

I’m currently listening to her discussion with Mariah and am loving it - it’s interesting some of the things they’re talking about in navigating their experiences as mixed race...

I think its great that you're enjoying it. Isn't this the point of the podcasts that people listen to them for enjoyment or education or both? Millions will have enjoyed them and that's what's it's all about. It shows that MM can move forward and exploit her position for people's enjoyment.
I just wish she could do it without keep trying to drag the RF. That would really show she'd moved on.

Someone said I was a WoC myself - don't particularly think this poster was trying to be aggressive. I just never talked of or revealed my race -ever. Not sure why MN decided to let it stand.

Mostly because there are and were undercurrents of racism and xenophobia on here. So it will be, " oh lets ignore them as they are black or they are woke liberals with their ideas. My race does not really matter on the topic.

The thing about this is that their rebellion is not being done for altruistic reasons. H & M were fully onboard with 'The Firm' so long as it served their needs, and as soon as it didn't, they bailed and want some payback. They aren't replublicans by any means.

Again - this conversation - especially with the racial history in the US - is an ongoing discussion between black people in the US and is best left alone if you’re not from the states or black. Black people from outside the US frequently get their knuckles rapped in discussions about this due to different lived experiences.

I think this is a very sensible view. Do you think the reverse should also be true? By which I mean we often see posts here which start from the basis that the experience of race in the US can be applied without modification to the UK. In other contexts I find the two cultures very different, so I have wondered how true this is, but am also aware that this is a discussion best left to others.

Anyway, back on topic, I see there have been been articles in the press pondering how Archetypes can still be sitting at No1 in the Spotify Top Podcasts when both episodes are far lower down the charts of how many times they have been listened to. A question I asked in the last thread!

To me the main thing is to think of us as a collective, the British people.

We have someone /couple who are out there trying to make the world better. Surely we should try to support them. They are not taking our tax, they have no history of murder, pedo etc. Just out there trying to do good.

As a collective we should surely be supporting them.

Looks like she’s done just that in this episode so you’ve got your wish - no Royal Family talk.

What a great discussion about Oprah’s Legends Ball and Leontyne Price.

I listen to lots of podcasts and I have a criticism of this one in general. I think that Meghan is keen to explore stereotypes (yep not archetypes 🤣) and would have an interesting program if she did just that - her style is very much like Paris Lees’ Flipside podcast on BBC Sounds. The problem is that she’s trying to shoe horn her celeb guests into these discussions and it just….doesn’t… really….work. (See also her one with Serena)

I think she and her team should either just do an interview with a prompt word - the conversation flows with Mariah really well before Meghan remembers she needs to be talking about Divas; or do an exploration of the word and connotations with additional information from the experts she’s had on and no celeb interview.

But that’s my opinion.

The comparison with Yoko is interesting, John Lennon also lost his mother as a teenager and had issues surrounding that. Yoko was older, divorced and seemed to have a mothering influence on him. I actually think she was good for him (although most people don't), in that she allowed him to break free of the Beatles, which is what he wanted. Perhaps Harry wanted similar, to break free of being just 'the spare', and Meghan helped him to be something else.

The problem is, neither of them know exactly what that is. They don't want to just go away quietly...well I think he would be happy with that, but I don't think she would. So they grasp around for and identity outside of the RF, all while constantly referring back to the RF as it is the only thing they have to sell.

I am astounded (why?) with the irresponsible reporting though.

The 50 minute podcast about serous issues, and you choose to focus on a less than 1 minute throwaway? Really ? Thank goodness the rest of the population is reasonable. People picked up on several issues that were discussed, and I am happy to hear them talk about issues of how women have to deal with labels.

This is such naive crap.
How exactly does sitting in her mansion, making millions by complaining about how tough her life is make the world better?

Are you really saying that a second rate actress whose only claim to fame is that she married a royal can be taken seriously when she discusses ‘serious’ issues. Come on! Only in America is this sort of nonsense taken seriously.

And actually, they are taking money from the British public - who paid millions for their lavish wedding? and for the Frogmore cottage restorations?

And who funds Charles, who apparently funds Harry - taxpayers.

Are you really saying that a second rate actress whose only claim to fame is that she married a royal can be taken seriously when she discusses ‘serious’ issues.

She wasn't known to the British public before her marriage because none of her programmes were shown here. But she did get on the UN bus so I think its unfair to say that she hasn't attempted to deal with serious issues before. Of course her profile and the number of people listening to her has increased by dint of her relationship to the Queen. Spotify wouldn't have given her a contract otherwise.
Podcasts are primarily for enjoyment, though, aren't they? They just tag 'education' on to make it sound more worthy. Lol.

They have paid for Frogmore.
So pay back the money for the wedding and not accept Prince Charles money? Or take his own money in trust from Diana as this was paid for by the taxpayer? How about money from the Queen mother - also taxpayer? Is this what you would like?

If this indeed is what you would like - you will need to petition the government to change inheritance law in the UK to enable your wish. But this of course would lead to unintended consequences…..

Harry is currently suing the Home Office and Met for taxpayer funded security though….

I was responding to notanotheroneagain stating 'they are not taking our tax'. The rest of your post is irrelevant.